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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[facilitatorn]

http://www.vice.com/en/article/5dp5qx/trump-is-finally-realizing-that-the-gop-is-abandoning-him

[josh]

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/fbi-white-supremacists-plotted-attack-on-us-power-grid/2518441

Another topic on which our "law and order" posters have been silent.

[josh]

This may be the year we find out if a pardon is just another executive order subject to negation and recision by the author’s successor.

No, we know it is not.

The Constitution does not give POTUS "unpardon" power.

p.s. rescission.

Does the constitution explicitly deny it? Has it been litigated?

Thank you for providing a proper spelling of rescission.

Neither the ability of a president to pardon himself or to reverse a pardon are mentioned one way or the other and they haven't been litigated, either.

That doesn't make it a serious constitutional issue. If the next president can come along and unpardon anybody he feels like that means there is in essence no pardon power at all, which clearly goes against the intention of that provision.

The intention is clear from the discussion they had on the topic. They were concerned about abuse of pardon, but actively chose not to put in any checks or balances beyond the one item listed.

[Oilcandide]

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/fbi-white-supremacists-plotted-attack-on-us-power-grid/2518441

Another topic on which our "law and order" posters have been silent.

It's only law and order when you're ordering people of color,  the homeless,  drug users and refugees/immigrants. 

[Oilcandide]

Phoenix’s unshaded tent city is called “The Zone” by its inhabitants. Some of them call it “Trumpville,” an echo of Depression-era shantytowns named “Hoovervilles” after President Herbert Hoover, who was accused of not doing enough to keep people sheltered.

The Zone’s hundreds of residents are packed together - often not wearing masks, with many living just in sleeping bags or on a tarp. Without running water or plumbing, simple pandemic health protocols, like handwashing, are difficult. Although the city has posted portable toilets and washing stations along the perimeter, feces and garbage litter the property. In some spots, the stench is overwhelming....

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-homelessness-i-idUSKBN28X19Y

[Oilcandide]

http://www.vice.com/en/article/5dp5qx/trump-is-finally-realizing-that-the-gop-is-abandoning-him

You know it's over when you start calling John Thune a RINO.   

[bambu.]

Every other night on their tv news Australians see the might of China's military paraded.  Million plus goose-stepping troops both male and female.
Giant missiles that could blow Australia to kingdom come at any time.

What do you watch on the alternate nights when they aren't televising China military parades?

Covid updates...Joe and Dr Fauci getting vaccinated.
Our crops of fruit rotting in the fields because there are not enough guest/backpacker/casual workers available to pick the fruit because of Covid.  $1000 per week wages.
Govt should've allowed "grey nomads" (old folks travelling around Australia in caravans etc) on pensions, and younger nomads, to pick the fruit tax free...but no...govt wouldn't do it.
Also what Australia should be doing about the insults and trade bans China hurls every other day...including the race card.

[josh]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/23/us/columbus-ohio-police-shooting/index.html

Body cam turned on after shooting yet another black man for no apparent reason. Part of Columbus OH's ongoing police/race difficulties.

[kidcarter8]

But the GOP knew he was a snake when they bought in.


The people got Trump nominated.  Not the party.

[kidcarter8]

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/fbi-white-supremacists-plotted-attack-on-us-power-grid/2518441

Another topic on which our "law and order" posters have been silent.

Did they catch the guy?

Then what's the concern?

[josh]

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/fbi-white-supremacists-plotted-attack-on-us-power-grid/2518441

Another topic on which our "law and order" posters have been silent.

Did they catch the guy?

Then what's the concern?

Troll.

[josh]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/23/politics/dominion-voting-executive-defamation-lawsuit/index.html

[kidcarter8]

Anyone know what the combined bills go up to monetarily if 2K is approved by both sides and all else remains the same?

[josh]

Anyone know what the combined bills go up to monetarily if 2K is approved by both sides and all else remains the same?

Currently the bill appropriates $166 billion for the direct payments. That would go up to ~$553 billion if raised to $2000 per recipient with no other changes.

[bambu.]

More infectious Covid strain from Africa found in UK.
Of course...people are still on the move.