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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60960 on: December 23, 2020, 04:45:40 PM »

More infectious Covid strain from Africa found in UK.
Of course...people are still on the move.

Is that "COVID strain that is more infectious" or "additional COVID strain?"

Links are useful for this kind of story, Bambu.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/a-second-more-contagious-new-strain-of-covid-19-has-been-detected-in-the-u-k-from-south-africa-11608743128
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60961 on: December 23, 2020, 04:50:27 PM »

I don't disagree that Trump would seem to have nothing to gain, either politically or fiscally, from some of his current actions.

But as noted, rationality is not the driving force. That said...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/23/politics/trump-ndaa-veto/index.html He vetoed the defense measure that both House and Senate will pass, trivially overriding his veto.

And do Loeffler and Perdue vote to override the veto or do they follow the Trumpster into the Dumpster?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60962 on: December 23, 2020, 05:41:10 PM »

Lawyers Have a Field Day After Republicans File ‘the Single Dumbest Election Lawsuit of the Entire Cycle’

I love the headline - and that that's a quote.

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/lawyers-have-a-field-day-after-republicans-file-the-single-dumbest-election-lawsuit-of-the-entire-cycle

The suit names 19 defendants, including both chambers of Congress and “the Electoral College.”

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“(U)nder Article II, Defendants Vice President Pence, the U.S. House of Representatives and the United States Senate can only open up and count Presidential elector ballots if the state legislature has affirmatively voted to certify the Presidential electors; otherwise, the votes of the Presidential electors cannot be counted,” the suit erroneously claims. “The Plaintiffs claim that the Vice President and U.S. Congress act unconstitutionally in this election and future elections when they count votes of Presidential electors where the respective state legislature has not affirmatively voted in favor of post-election certification”
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60963 on: December 23, 2020, 05:48:26 PM »

But the GOP knew he was a snake when they bought in.


The people got Trump nominated.  Not the party.

Yeah. He was a half assed Democrat with no real philosophy except ‘What’s in it for me?’

Folks l8ke you actually thinks he gives a shit about the country, the party or the people.

Suckers
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60964 on: December 23, 2020, 06:46:49 PM »

The US today passed 1/10th of 1% (0.1%) of our population's having died from COVID-19.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60965 on: December 23, 2020, 07:45:45 PM »

http://www.cnn.com/2020/12/23/politics/trump-pardons-stone-manafort-kushner/index.html

Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, and Jared's dad all got pardoned.

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« Reply #60966 on: December 23, 2020, 07:51:02 PM »

The US today passed 1/10th of 1% (0.1%) of our population's having died from COVID-19.

This is monstrous.

Crimes of omission and commission.

Incompetence combined with malfeasance.


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60967 on: December 23, 2020, 08:32:06 PM »

http://www.cnn.com/2020/12/23/politics/trump-pardons-stone-manafort-kushner/index.html

Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, and Jared's dad all got pardoned.

"Drain Pardon the Swamp!"
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60968 on: December 23, 2020, 08:36:43 PM »

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/23/949679837/shock-and-dismay-after-trump-pardons-blackwater-guards-who-killed-14-iraqi-civil

Worst pardon of them all.   This does harm to US standing in other nations as upholding the rule of law.   Read a description of the guards actions.   Utterly contemptible that T----would do this. 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60969 on: December 23, 2020, 08:39:49 PM »

I don't disagree that Trump would seem to have nothing to gain, either politically or fiscally, from some of his current actions.

But as noted, rationality is not the driving force. That said...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/23/politics/trump-ndaa-veto/index.html He vetoed the defense measure that both House and Senate will pass, trivially overriding his veto.

And do Loeffler and Perdue vote to override the veto or do they follow the Trumpster into the Dumpster?
If it is a pocket veto it can’t be overridden.
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« Reply #60970 on: December 23, 2020, 08:52:55 PM »

I don't disagree that Trump would seem to have nothing to gain, either politically or fiscally, from some of his current actions.

But as noted, rationality is not the driving force. That said...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/23/politics/trump-ndaa-veto/index.html He vetoed the defense measure that both House and Senate will pass, trivially overriding his veto.

And do Loeffler and Perdue vote to override the veto or do they follow the Trumpster into the Dumpster?
If it is a pocket veto it can’t be overridden.

Congress has avoided pocket vetos for decades,  Ward.   An agent acts for congress,  during any adjournment, to formally receive the veto.   Wright v US.   It's why recent presidents have not bothered with it.   
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« Reply #60971 on: December 23, 2020, 08:53:54 PM »

LoL filing a suit against the electoral college,  like it's a thing rather than a process.   Let's sue photosynthesis, too!   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60972 on: December 23, 2020, 08:56:18 PM »

I don't disagree that Trump would seem to have nothing to gain, either politically or fiscally, from some of his current actions.

But as noted, rationality is not the driving force. That said...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/23/politics/trump-ndaa-veto/index.html He vetoed the defense measure that both House and Senate will pass, trivially overriding his veto.

And do Loeffler and Perdue vote to override the veto or do they follow the Trumpster into the Dumpster?

Congress has avoided pocket vetos for decades,  Ward.   An agent acts for congress,  during any adjournment, to formally receive the veto.   Wright v US.   It's why recent presidents have not bothered with it.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60973 on: December 23, 2020, 09:01:36 PM »

The Framers rejected any power of absolute veto.   So the court tends to frown on the use of pocket veto to sneak in such a power.   Congress has the right to muster a two-thirds majority and override any veto.   
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« Reply #60974 on: December 23, 2020, 09:06:43 PM »

It becomes a law in ten days,  if the POTUS refuses to sign.   Congress can appoint agents,  so that the holiday adjournment will not prevent Congress from accepting the return.   Trump could take it to scotus,  I guess,  but that hasn't been working too well for him.   Especially a scotus that likes the Framers, eh?   
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