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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[josh]

I love censorship.
'No' censorship in Germany sees topless women shown on the fronts of newspapers.
 Families deserve respect, that is not respect.

Germany has censorship.

That's not one of the things they censor.

And your discomfort with women's bodies and your desire to control women remains consistent.

I suggest that you don't look at the German women on those newspapers if they bother you. Though how you have seen enough of them to know about this suggests you may have been seeking them out.

[josh]

https://www.theroot.com/woman-accuses-black-boy-of-stealing-her-phone-hotel-ma-1845953369

I can predict what Kid's reaction to this will be.

[bambu.]

I love censorship.
'No' censorship in Germany sees topless women shown on the fronts of newspapers.
 Families deserve respect, that is not respect.

Germany has censorship.

That's not one of the things they censor.

And your discomfort with women's bodies and your desire to control women remains consistent.

I suggest that you don't look at the German women on those newspapers if they bother you. Though how you have seen enough of them to know about this suggests you may have been seeking them out.

"German girl" on YouTube spoke about it...among other things re the differences between US and Germany.

I should be able to buy the daily newspaper, bring it home and put it on the family kitchen bench in front of children, family, mother in law etc without any drama.
And read it on public transport.

I'd be saying the same thing if it were  full frontal naked males on the front pages or any pages.

[bambu.]

Biden should stop all the cold-blooded killing by the federal govt and state govts.

He can stop the feds'. He cannot stop the states'.

You just don't get it. The President is not a King.

He could if he wanted to.

[josh]

"German girl" on YouTube spoke about it...among other things re the differences between US and Germany.

I should be able to buy the daily newspaper, bring it home and put it on the family kitchen bench in front of children, family, mother in law etc without any drama.

(A) I have told you before, you need to stop using YouTube as a basis for judging anything but YouTube.

(B) And you can, yes? Do you have daily newspapers in Australia doing that? No? Then what the fuck is your problem?! YOU are not the arbiter of how other countries are run!

(C) Ever occur to you that perhaps the uptight morals about what is acceptable are the problem and not partial nudity? No hang-ups, no drama.

Hang-ups lead to drama, not nudity.

[josh]

Biden should stop all the cold-blooded killing by the federal govt and state govts.

He can stop the feds'. He cannot stop the states'.

You just don't get it. The President is not a King.

He could if he wanted to.

No, he couldn't. The president does not have that authority.

He could try to influence it, politically, but he cannot order it done.

And before you repeat your claim, find evidence to support it and present that. Otherwise, as the saying goes, shut the fuck up.

[bambu.]

"German girl" on YouTube spoke about it...among other things re the differences between US and Germany.

I should be able to buy the daily newspaper, bring it home and put it on the family kitchen bench in front of children, family, mother in law etc without any drama.

(A) I have told you before, you need to stop using YouTube as a basis for judging anything but YouTube.

(B) And you can, yes? Do you have daily newspapers in Australia doing that? No? Then what the fuck is your problem?! YOU are not the arbiter of how other countries are run!

(C) Ever occur to you that perhaps the uptight morals about what is acceptable are the problem and not partial nudity? No hang-ups, no drama.

Hang-ups lead to drama, not nudity.

There used to be such photos of women on page 3 of Sunday paper.
We the "hang up" people had them censored and abolished..."pornography".
I love censorship.

[facilitatorn]

http://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/28/georgia-voter-rolls-senate-451820

Courts block Georgia voter purge ahead of the runoff. Another small win for Democracy at the expense ofthe criminal republican enterprise.

[facilitatorn]

http://thebulwark.com/the-treasonous-pardon-of-paul-manafort/

The republicans have cornered the market on election & voter fraud.

[josh]

"German girl" on YouTube spoke about it...among other things re the differences between US and Germany.

I should be able to buy the daily newspaper, bring it home and put it on the family kitchen bench in front of children, family, mother in law etc without any drama.

(A) I have told you before, you need to stop using YouTube as a basis for judging anything but YouTube.

(B) And you can, yes? Do you have daily newspapers in Australia doing that? No? Then what the fuck is your problem?! YOU are not the arbiter of how other countries are run!

(C) Ever occur to you that perhaps the uptight morals about what is acceptable are the problem and not partial nudity? No hang-ups, no drama.

Hang-ups lead to drama, not nudity.

There used to be such photos of women on page 3 of Sunday paper.
We the "hang up" people had them censored and abolished..."pornography".
I love censorship.

So, it's okay if I delete your posts that I find objectionable?

[josh]

I missed this Appeals Court win against the forces of evil (i.e. Trump's efforts to overthrow our democracy):

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/24/trump-loses-wisconsin-georgia-450433

I'd seen the Georgia loss, but not the Wisconsin loss. That's what, now? 1-57?

[josh]

And this asinine suit ought to be the final nail in the coffin on Rep Gohmert's time as a US Rep.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/28/gohmert-suit-pence-overturn-trumps-defeat-451485

That it seems to force Pence to choose sides would seem to be a blessing, though if I am Pence, I don't respond to the suit either supporting it or fighting it, but instead arguing that he is not rightly a target of the suit. He is better served by dodging it, I think.

I doubt he will - I think he will pick a side.

[bambu.]

"German girl" on YouTube spoke about it...among other things re the differences between US and Germany.

I should be able to buy the daily newspaper, bring it home and put it on the family kitchen bench in front of children, family, mother in law etc without any drama.

(A) I have told you before, you need to stop using YouTube as a basis for judging anything but YouTube.

(B) And you can, yes? Do you have daily newspapers in Australia doing that? No? Then what the fuck is your problem?! YOU are not the arbiter of how other countries are run!

(C) Ever occur to you that perhaps the uptight morals about what is acceptable are the problem and not partial nudity? No hang-ups, no drama.

Hang-ups lead to drama, not nudity.

There used to be such photos of women on page 3 of Sunday paper.
We the "hang up" people had them censored and abolished..."pornography".
I love censorship.

So, it's okay if I delete your posts that I find objectionable?

You would be guided by the forum rules of censorship?

[Hairy Lime]

And this asinine suit ought to be the final nail in the coffin on Rep Gohmert's time as a US Rep.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/28/gohmert-suit-pence-overturn-trumps-defeat-451485

That it seems to force Pence to choose sides would seem to be a blessing, though if I am Pence, I don't respond to the suit either supporting it or fighting it, but instead arguing that he is not rightly a target of the suit. He is better served by dodging it, I think.

I doubt he will - I think he will pick a side.

That coffin could be 98% nail and he would get rerelected. He's in a dead woman/live man kind of district.

Everyone who signs on to that law suit is a traitor to this country and an enemy of democracy. We should never forget who they are.

[barton]

Changing what is and isn’t in the literary canon and expected to be widely taught is categorically and fundamentally different from organizing a banning of a book.

Are groups actually saying take any book off shelves, out of libraries, or any private collection?

Some books are banned, like trump’s only bedside reading. I haven’t seen anything in the reporting Uno referenced and Barton took to heart that talks about out and out banning or even restricting availability of any book mentioned. Unless there is something clear along those lines referenced, and not just innuendo, I feel it’s worth pointing out that changes to the cannon happen all the time and are pushed for even more often than they actually occur.

In the article,  a school system removes The Odyssey.  I mean,  come on.  And several people in the group wanted to remove all classics over 70 years old.   Which would be most of them,  and would leave students with,  as the writer said,  with a poverty of language and culture and historical understanding.   It's a disservice to young minds to act as if they cannot learn to put stories in an historical context.   How many students will venture to the public library, to seek out books carefully not mentioned in school? 

It's not banning,  but the effect on most students who are not library wonks,  will be stunting.   Many in school find an introduction to the past and its literature.   

The dogpile on the woman defending The Scarlet Letter was insane and alarming to anyone who might think the Puritans were a part of American history.