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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[Kam]

The woman who was shot dead in the Capitol building yesterday was an air force veteran, unarmed, and shot while climbing thru a window.
Shot in the neck by a cop.
She was a White woman.
IMAGINE if she was Black.

If she was black she would've been shot too.  What's your point?

[Kam]

The woman who was shot dead in the Capitol building yesterday was an air force veteran, unarmed, and shot while climbing thru a window.
Shot in the neck by a cop.
She was a White woman.
IMAGINE if she was Black.

cities would again burn

And YOU are lecturing anybody on divisive language?!

Hoisted him with his own petard.  Bravo Josh.   Shaking my head at kiid.  Wants to fire Chris Webber for what he does himself. 


Kidd, you need to go to time-out for 24 hours after this episode.    Try facing an actual book.

[luee]

Why does Joe continue to play the race card, continue the polarization? The undermanned security did not take it easy on the insurrectionist thugs because they were white. The BLM movement was by in large accepted and supported except when it resulted in looting and violence. BHO never went in that direction. This is strictly on the Donald and his cult. I thought Biden wanted to reach across the aisle.

[josh]

Why does Joe continue to play the race card, continue the polarization? The undermanned security did not take it easy on the insurrectionist thugs because they were white. The BLM movement was by in large accepted and supported except when it resulted in looting and violence. BHO never went in that direction. This is strictly on the Donald and his cult. I thought Biden wanted to reach across the aisle.

It is hard to reach across an aisle to a GOP Congress in which more than 50% are a blend of liars and conspiracy theorists, many of whom actively condone what happened on Wednesday.

It is not "continuing the polarization," but acknowledging that the polarization exists, whether he discusses it or not.

And while you may claim that the undermanned police did not take it easy on the mob on Wednesday because they were white, seeing the police be chummy with some of them combined with recognizing the lack of adequate preparations vs. the prep that was done for the BLM march - the daytime part of their event - suggests somebody in the police hierarchy viewed treating these overwhelmingly white folks very differently from those overwhelmingly Black folks.

Just look again at the picture of the police presence at the Lincoln Memorial in the summer vs. the wholly inadequate forces assembled on January 6th. Do also consider what might have been behind the phenomenally low turnout for shifts by those self-same police that day.

And pause to think, for just a moment, that perhaps President-Elect Biden might know what he is talking about.

And if he is right, then what would you have him say?!

[josh]

Boycotting Facebook - sorry

Because they turned off your hero for his incendiary remarks - the same type you have been claiming cause no harm for 5 years now. You are so full of shit.

But here, have a different link of the same video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrJbYPCf7o8

[josh]

The Pentagon doesn't think that 3 hours to transition from traffic duty to riot duty is too long.

I disagree, but even more than that, I want to know why the Pentagon did not anticipate the potential need, given that their sources have to have been good enough to tell them that the riot teams might be needed.

Yes, there are still questions for everybody else in the decision making process, whether Capitol Police, DC Police, or Mayor's Office. I suspect the Secret Service likely has some questions to answer, as well, given that VP-Elect/Senator Kamala Harris was at the Capitol Building, as well. And given the 92-7 and 93-6 votes, in the Senate Chamber for the vote when the mob broke into the building and disrupted things.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-pentagon-2649786910


Pentagon under fire after memos reveal tight limits on National Guard response to Trump insurrection

The Washington Post obtained memos revealing why there were not troops positioned to protect the U.S. Capitol from Wednesday's violent insurrection by Trump supporters.

"The Pentagon placed tight limits on the D.C. National Guard ahead of pro-Trump protests this week, trying to ensure the use of military force remained constrained, as the Guard carried out a narrow, unarmed mission requested by the city's mayor to help handle traffic ahead of planned protests," the newspaper reported. "In memos issued Monday and Tuesday in response to a request from the D.C. mayor, the Pentagon prohibited the District's guardsmen from receiving ammunition or riot gear, interacting with protesters unless necessary for self-defense, sharing equipment with local law enforcement, or using Guard surveillance and air assets without the defense secretary's explicit sign-off, according to officials familiar with the orders. The limits were established because the Guard hadn't been asked to assist with crowd or riot control."

"Then the mission abruptly changed — and the Pentagon is now facing criticism from governors and local officials who say it moved too slowly to send National Guard troops to respond, a charge that its leaders denied Thursday," The Post noted. "In the roughly three hours it took the Pentagon to make the shift from traffic policing to full-fledged riot response, the Capitol Police found themselves overwhelmed and rioters stormed the building, forcing lawmakers to take cover and barricade themselves in their offices. The Pentagon left it to federal law enforcement to clear the Capitol of the rioters, amid the hesitancy about sending Guard units into the building itself. By the evening, Guard units helped the Capitol Police and federal and city law enforcement reestablish a perimeter around the building."

[bambu.]

 

The woman who was shot dead in the Capitol building yesterday was an air force veteran, unarmed, and shot while climbing thru a window.
Shot in the neck by a cop.
She was a White woman.
IMAGINE if she was Black.

If she was black she would've been shot too.  What's your point?

Same as usually happens when an unarmed Black person is shot by the cops.

[josh]

http://www.honestgraft.com/2021/01/two-weaknesses-exposed-on-capitol-hill.html

[facilitatorn]

Root out the insurrectionist plot. Isolate, marginalize, and dispossess the coup’s supporters. Then reach out across the isle toward whatever is left. That 30-40% of the GOP with clean hands can form the core of a new conservative movement with actual values.

The first order of business is to brutally dismember the plotters and the ongoing plot.

The misadministration has been downplaying white cracker dead ender terrorism since it got started as a campaign to bilk rubes like Kiid. It is because the top bloated goon always had dreams of his brown shirts. He didn’t realize they’d be sweaty incels as cowardly as he is, but he did all in his power to clear the way for the attack.

RICO all the way.

[Kam]

The woman who was shot dead in the Capitol building yesterday was an air force veteran, unarmed, and shot while climbing thru a window.
Shot in the neck by a cop.
She was a White woman.
IMAGINE if she was Black.

If she was black she would've been shot too.  What's your point?

Same as usually happens when an unarmed Black person is shot by the cops.

WHAT POINT ARE YOU MAKING?? 

[bambu.]

Gee, you'd want Trump in the trenches with you...not.
Yesterday he was their "fearless leader", whipped them into a frenzy, urged them on to victory...and today threw them under a bus.

It's sad all around.
Sad the invasion happened...very sad that people died for that, and sad people who were involved in the invasion have ruined their lives, believing they were patriots.
Many of the protesters/invaders I saw on tv don't seem to living in the real world.

[facilitatorn]

They listen to blowhard moron hucksters not dissimilar to your #1 radio host, mothers of disinformation that grows steadily toward treason and madness. 

[Kam]

Who gets prosecuted?  Will it be only the few identified so far?   Will 99% get away with it?
How long will they be in prison?  Will it be the ten years Trump promised or will their privilege protect them?
When will the next attack happen? / What will the response be to prevent future incursions?
What will become of Washington DC as a result?
 

[facilitatorn]

We should institute stop and frisk for white people and preform no knock raids at frat houses and gun stores, mega churches and venture capital offices.

[facilitatorn]

All you get is economic ruin and deadly rioting.