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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #63270 on: January 16, 2021, 02:36:41 PM »

The Yemenis are being punished for being primitive, xenophobic, and under control of the crazy Ayatollahs.

The Yemenis are being bombed and starved for being
primitive = poor and not having extractable oil
xenophobic = resisting domination by Saudi Arabia and their Wahhabi fundamentalism
under control of Iran = Iran has provided some weapons and aid to both assist fellow Shiites and be a thorn in Saudi Arabia's side.  But the Shiite religion in Yemen is distinctive and different than the 12er beliefs of Iran, and the idea that Iran is calling the shots is just US/Saudi propaganda, partly designed to promote the war against Yemen and partly to justify harsher actions towards Iran. 

Yemeni religion and politics is all its own thing, despite foreign interference.  I haven't seen a credible source that believes Iran is pulling the strings in Yemen or has much influence over the Houthis. 

Of course, the Yemen War is part of the Saudis attempt to expand their regional power, which reportedly America First Trump has encouraged.  They kidnapped the Prime Minister of Lebanon.  The ex-head of Yemen resides in Saudi Arabia claiming to be the lawful ruler, and can be expected to do Saudi bidding if they ever reinstall him.

Choosing between Saudi Arabia and Iran, at least one of them has active democratic elections, though we only care about such things when it suits our purposes.

Iran's Ayatollahs still want Israel tossed into the sea and America to die, with suicide murder a blessed death.  Most of the Gulf states have adopted a modern more realistic approach. Recognizing Israel's right to exist and seeing the US as a friend. Their are no death to America celebrations in Saudi Arabia. What part of "death to America" do you not understand?

luee, once again telling it how it is, speaking the truth.
"Death to America" countries are not anywhere near the top of the list of best countries in which to live and work.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #63271 on: January 16, 2021, 02:38:40 PM »

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/smokers-in-nj-will-get-access-to-covid-vaccine-before-general-public/2830615/

If you teach in New Jersey, you have to wait to get your vaccine behind....wait for it....
 people who smoke!


The medical profession can't be in the business of making moral judgments on patients.   If I'm in the ER with my hand bleeding and there's a guy with COPD who can't breathe,  they're taking him first regardless of his smoking history.   

I would like my schoolteacher daughter to be early in line,  though,  because that protects potentially hundreds of people.   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #63272 on: January 16, 2021, 02:41:38 PM »

For God's sake, Bambu, get away from the screen and go outside for awhile.

It's true though, even if people here don't like hearing it.

Biased people produce biased standards.

Biased standards produced biased results.

It's true, even if you don't like hearing it.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #63273 on: January 16, 2021, 02:46:32 PM »

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/smokers-in-nj-will-get-access-to-covid-vaccine-before-general-public/2830615/

If you teach in New Jersey, you have to wait to get your vaccine behind....wait for it....
 people who smoke!

"It's outrageous. They've chosen to put themselves in that position," Jonathan Strauss said of the priority for smokers. "To put someone on the list — ahead of these people that are volunteering to put their health on the line — because they have chosen to put themselves in a particular medical condition is outrageous."

At Wednesday's briefing, state Health Commissioner Judith Persichilli said that "smoking puts you at significant risk for an adverse result from COVID-19."

Persichilli also said that seniors have accounted for 80 percent of coronavirus deaths in the state. Two-thirds of the total number of those who have died had one or more underlying conditions.

The state health department amped up its defense Thursday, saying New Jersey was simply following CDC guidance that lists smoking as a condition that puts people at increased risk of severe illness from the virus. It is also aware of the controversy, a spokeswoman said.

"Nicotine is one of the most powerful addictions. Smoking put individuals at higher risk for more severe disease. If an individual who smokes gets COVID, they get sicker much quicker," NJ Department of Health Director of Communications Donna Leusner said in a statement Thursday.




Marlboro Man would be ahead of Victoria Leigh Soto.

SAD.

New Jersey is a blue state.




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« Reply #63274 on: January 16, 2021, 02:47:29 PM »

Bambu,  don't try to walk back what you said.   You said white culture nations are the best.   You didn't say "European nations and some of their colonial offspring are wealthy and have good jobs. "   Trying to answer a deep philosophic question of what makes a good life takes more than just saying "they've got money,  they industrialized first and then enslaved people who didn't, woohoo! "  By the thin logic of prosperity,  non-white Japan and Korea should be on your "best" ranking.   

« Last Edit: January 16, 2021, 02:49:24 PM by barton »
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #63275 on: January 16, 2021, 02:47:33 PM »

Focus on the beauty in the world...

We need to go into Iran and find people who we can support, and we need to put the focus on the good people in Iran whom we can support, and we need to take the focus off of the bad people. When you put all of the focus on the bad people then it looks like everyone is bad, but if you put the focus on the good people then the perspective changes. And you let the good people set an example for ways others should behave.

It is sort of like not feeding the trolls on the web, you ignore them and they go away, and instead you put the focus on the good people who you deem worthy of attention.
 
Of note, things are changing with the rise of Abu Dhabi and Dubai, the people of that region are becoming more progressive and human rights are improving and women's rights are improving.
 
We need to focus on the good people, and on the beautiful people, and on the talented people, and on the people who are helping to make our planet a better place, and we need to take the attention away from the bad people who do not deserve our attention.

Then as we focus on the good in the world, then that is what we will see all around us.
 
And the Bible tells us to focus on the good in the world...
 
Philippians 4:8 New International Version (NIV)

8 Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.
 
I challenge the journalists to look for the good in the world, and to focus on the beauty instead of putting all of our focus on a few dirt bags who need to just go be homeless by themselves instead of getting all of the attention.
 
Salute,
 
Tony V.


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« Reply #63276 on: January 16, 2021, 02:58:20 PM »

Yeah no big deal....

luee and bambu this should warm the cockles of your heart or cause cook shrinkage



https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-15/biden-to-send-congress-bill-to-legalize-11-million-immigrants-who-lack-documentation
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« Reply #63277 on: January 16, 2021, 02:58:27 PM »

For God's sake, Bambu, get away from the screen and go outside for awhile.

It's true though, even if people here don't like hearing it.

Biased people produce biased standards.

Biased standards produced biased results.

It's true, even if you don't like hearing it.

Mexico, Central America, South America ...that many people seem to want to turn USA into, are not near the top of the list.
Nor are Syria, Iran, Egypt, Iraq, anywhere in Africa including nth Africa, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Turkey.
The figures speak for themselves, ...income, crime rates, healthcare, housing, cost of living, education etc.
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« Reply #63278 on: January 16, 2021, 03:00:42 PM »

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/smokers-in-nj-will-get-access-to-covid-vaccine-before-general-public/2830615/

If you teach in New Jersey, you have to wait to get your vaccine behind....wait for it....
 people who smoke!

"It's outrageous. They've chosen to put themselves in that position," Jonathan Strauss said of the priority for smokers. "To put someone on the list — ahead of these people that are volunteering to put their health on the line — because they have chosen to put themselves in a particular medical condition is outrageous."

At Wednesday's briefing, state Health Commissioner Judith Persichilli said that "smoking puts you at significant risk for an adverse result from COVID-19."

Persichilli also said that seniors have accounted for 80 percent of coronavirus deaths in the state. Two-thirds of the total number of those who have died had one or more underlying conditions.

The state health department amped up its defense Thursday, saying New Jersey was simply following CDC guidance that lists smoking as a condition that puts people at increased risk of severe illness from the virus. It is also aware of the controversy, a spokeswoman said.

"Nicotine is one of the most powerful addictions. Smoking put individuals at higher risk for more severe disease. If an individual who smokes gets COVID, they get sicker much quicker," NJ Department of Health Director of Communications Donna Leusner said in a statement Thursday.




Marlboro Man would be ahead of Victoria Leigh Soto.

SAD.

New Jersey is a blue state.

The GOP does not have a monopoly on people with stupid ideas.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #63279 on: January 16, 2021, 03:02:53 PM »

Yeah no big deal....

luee and bambu this should warm the cockles of your heart or cause cook shrinkage



https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-15/biden-to-send-congress-bill-to-legalize-11-million-immigrants-who-lack-documentation

But Luee has a point! We need to balance this out...

Can I provide him (Biden) with a list of 11 million people from whom to take away the right to live in this country?!

I'll start with QAnon members...
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« Reply #63280 on: January 16, 2021, 03:08:42 PM »

http://www.salon.com/2021/01/16/longtime-gop-insider-mike-lofgren-on-his-former-party-going-easy-on-these-people-will-not-work/

11 million sounds about right. Start at the top of the right wing and work on down. Pundits, pastors, and lobbyists first. Harrow the investor class. Cull the military and law enforcement communities. 
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« Reply #63281 on: January 16, 2021, 03:11:48 PM »

Bambu,  don't try to walk back what you said.   You said white culture nations are the best.   You didn't say "European nations and some of their colonial offspring are wealthy and have good jobs. "   Trying to answer a deep philosophic question of what makes a good life takes more than just saying "they've got money,  they industrialized first and then enslaved people who didn't, woohoo! "  By the thin logic of prosperity,  non-white Japan and Korea should be on your "best" ranking.

Japan was ranked no 2 on one list.
Korea didn't rank highly.

Oh I'm not walking backwards.
"The best countries in which to live and work"...today...includes Germany.
Quality of life.
White majority Canada is high on the list...Honduras is not.
Culture...includes,..forced marriages, under-age children by western standards forced to marry , child slavery, fgm, public whippings, stoning to death, working conditions, wages, healthcare,  education, governance.
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« Reply #63282 on: January 16, 2021, 03:15:30 PM »

http://www.salon.com/2021/01/16/who-loves-america-inciting-a-riot-to-sack-the-capitol-gives-us-the-answer/

When republicans get over their hatred of America they can be allowed to return to the political process. Till then, they shall be hunted in their ranges and their nests until they can’t muster the numbers to threaten anyone any more.
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« Reply #63283 on: January 16, 2021, 03:15:51 PM »

Bambu,  don't try to walk back what you said.   You said white culture nations are the best.   You didn't say "European nations and some of their colonial offspring are wealthy and have good jobs. "   Trying to answer a deep philosophic question of what makes a good life takes more than just saying "they've got money,  they industrialized first and then enslaved people who didn't, woohoo! "  By the thin logic of prosperity,  non-white Japan and Korea should be on your "best" ranking.

Japan was ranked no 2 on one list.
Korea didn't rank highly.

Oh I'm not walking backwards.
"The best countries in which to live and work"...today...includes Germany.
Quality of life.
White majority Canada is high on the list...Honduras is not.
Culture...includes,..forced marriages, under-age children by western standards forced to marry , child slavery, fgm, public whippings, stoning to death, working conditions, wages, healthcare,  education, governance.

We have underage by western standards forced to marry in the US. Forced marriages, in general. Child slavery. No currennt whippings or stoning to death, but Trump wanted to make executions public.

The Republican Party of which you are so fond wants us to have a state religion, wants to do away with child labor laws, wants to eliminate regulations on workplace safety...
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« Reply #63284 on: January 16, 2021, 03:19:07 PM »

Bambu,  don't try to walk back what you said.   You said white culture nations are the best.   You didn't say "European nations and some of their colonial offspring are wealthy and have good jobs. "   Trying to answer a deep philosophic question of what makes a good life takes more than just saying "they've got money,  they industrialized first and then enslaved people who didn't, woohoo! "  By the thin logic of prosperity,  non-white Japan and Korea should be on your "best" ranking.

Japan was ranked no 2 on one list.
Korea didn't rank highly.

Oh I'm not walking backwards.
"The best countries in which to live and work"...today...includes Germany.
Quality of life.
White majority Canada is high on the list...Honduras is not.
Culture...includes,..forced marriages, under-age children by western standards forced to marry , child slavery, fgm, public whippings, stoning to death, working conditions, wages, healthcare,  education, governance.

It seems like Bambu is telling us that Scummo is on the verge of being drummed out of office as the Australian coal industry collapses around his ears.

If so, that’s very good news indeed.
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