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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[facilitatorn]

In North Carolina, republicans are leaving the party in droves. It’s been attributed to the very strong recent evidence that social diseases are spreading out of control within the republican party.

The ones who stay with the republicans at this point are the ones you really have to question.

[bambu.]

Daily Telegraph:

Tim Blair: After years of complaining about Trump, now we see real tyranny

Emboldened by Joe Biden’s win, left-leaning forces across politics, media and business are cracking down on voices from the ranks of conservative populism, writes Tim Blair.

When a dictator is deposed and tyranny is defeated, the liberated rejoice.
They welcome the return of free speech. Underground media, previously criminalised, becomes mainstream.
Dissidents are unchained and their voices again heard.

But that isn’t happening following the defeat of US President Donald Trump, characterised by the left throughout his term as a fascist, a dictator and a tyrant.

Instead, the opposite is occurring. Free speech is now threatened. Voices are silenced. Political opposition is being crushed.

Using the Capitol Building riot as justification, big tech, big media, big business and Joe Biden’s incoming big government are taking steps to close down ­Donald Trump, members and ­supporters of his government, and the broader populist conservative ­movement.

CNN’s Don Lemon last week dismissed 73 million Trump voters as white-robed killer Nazis.

“If you voted for Trump, you voted for the person who the Klan supported. You voted for the person who Nazis support,” Lemon raved.

Fun fact: Robert Byrd, a former Ku Klux Klan member from West Virginia who served as a Democrat senator, was praised by Joe Biden at his 2010 memorial as “the most fierce defender that probably this state has known … West Virginia was not only written in his heart, but he wore it on his sleeve.”

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Well there you go.

[Hamilton Samuels]

“A third of the Republicans will leave the party,” Paul continued. “This isn’t about, anymore, the Electoral College, this is about the future of the party, and whether you’re going to ostracize and excommunicate President Trump from the party. Well, guess what? Millions of his fans will leave as well.”-----


Right.

But you said he put party ahead of nation.

To which I said "you are (both) wrong.

Paul believes that Republican party rule is best for the nation.  Thus what he said is to benefit BOTH party and nation.

As you were.

Clearly, you can't read.

You can just take back your statement and we'll be good.

Not sure the lemmings here would like it - but manning up is always a good thing.

Clearly, you're delusional.

And thanks for proving my point.

You can't read.

[LarryBnDC]

The Lincoln Project helps Americans understand the Jim Crow caucus. It’s never too early or too late to punch a fascist, even if you are just using the media to do it. 

http://youtu.be/jXKTarHDDIs

I don't trust NeverTrumpers but they make some damn good ads.

[LarryBnDC]

Daily Telegraph:

Tim Blair: After years of complaining about Trump, now we see real tyranny

Emboldened by Joe Biden’s win, left-leaning forces across politics, media and business are cracking down on voices from the ranks of conservative populism, writes Tim Blair.

When a dictator is deposed and tyranny is defeated, the liberated rejoice.
They welcome the return of free speech. Underground media, previously criminalised, becomes mainstream.
Dissidents are unchained and their voices again heard.

But that isn’t happening following the defeat of US President Donald Trump, characterised by the left throughout his term as a fascist, a dictator and a tyrant.

Instead, the opposite is occurring. Free speech is now threatened. Voices are silenced. Political opposition is being crushed.

Using the Capitol Building riot as justification, big tech, big media, big business and Joe Biden’s incoming big government are taking steps to close down ­Donald Trump, members and ­supporters of his government, and the broader populist conservative ­movement.

CNN’s Don Lemon last week dismissed 73 million Trump voters as white-robed killer Nazis.

“If you voted for Trump, you voted for the person who the Klan supported. You voted for the person who Nazis support,” Lemon raved.

Fun fact: Robert Byrd, a former Ku Klux Klan member from West Virginia who served as a Democrat senator, was praised by Joe Biden at his 2010 memorial as “the most fierce defender that probably this state has known … West Virginia was not only written in his heart, but he wore it on his sleeve.”

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Well there you go.

Will y'all stop riding the ghost of Robert Byrd.

Senator Byrd was a man who acknowledged his past and made amends.

I knew him through Francel and he was a gentleman.

[facilitatorn]

Tim Blair has really thin skin and allergies to both plain truth and to cause and effect. In what sad country can that twit find a job in the media? Probably one still dependent on mining coal and in the process of knuckling under to China.

[LarryBnDC]

Instead, the opposite is occurring. Free speech is now threatened. Voices are silenced. Political opposition is being crushed.

Using the Capitol Building riot as justification, big tech, big media, big business and Joe Biden’s incoming big government are taking steps to close down ­Donald Trump, members and ­supporters of his government, and the broader populist conservative ­movement.


Don't you love how all this "Free Markets" motherfuckers don't understand free markets? No one is suppressing your speech if you get booted of a media platform; remember the TOS you agreed to?

All the fucking snowflakes are falling.

[REDSTATEWARD]

The national debt has risen by almost $7.8 trillion during Trump’s time in office. That’s nearly twice as much as what Americans owe on student loans, car loans, credit cards and every other type of debt other than mortgages, combined, according to data from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. It amounts to about $23,500 in new federal debt for every person in the country.

The growth in the annual deficit under Trump ranks as the third-biggest increase, relative to the size of the economy, of any U.S. presidential administration, according to a calculation by Eugene Steuerle, co-founder of the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center. And unlike George W. Bush and Abraham Lincoln, who oversaw the larger relative increases in deficits, Trump did not launch two foreign conflicts or have to pay for a civil war....   

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/01/14/trump-legacy-national-debt-increasee/

If you read the whole article,  it becomes clearer how fiscal conservatives like me see a future with much less of our government revenue available to do the actual work of government.   We were lied to,  bigly.

LOL
ROFL!

Then please explain Biden’s $1.9 trillion Covid spending plan AFTER the $900 billion Congress appropriated last month, and the $2.9 trillion it foisted on us in early 2020.
And no less than a true Socialist like Bernie Sanders describes this latest fiasco no less than Biden’s
“ first installment”!
And what is this first installment ?
Nothing but rehashed Obama and democrat  redistribution of income to appease unions and the usual cast of of those not needing $1400 checks. (your definition)
There is 100$billion or so to help get Americans vaccinated but the rest?
Raising unemployment benefits through September means employers will have an even tougher time of putting people back to work. Then he doubles his stupidity by wanting to raise the minimum wage $15 which means employers won’t be able to put people back to work.
Or the WSJ points out Biden plans to help minority-owned small businesses with $190 billion in “equitably” distributed loans and grants. But if this is doled out based on race, it could be unconstitutional.

If the republicans support this idiocy then we are all in trouble.
.

[LarryBnDC]

The national debt has risen by almost $7.8 trillion during Trump’s time in office. That’s nearly twice as much as what Americans owe on student loans, car loans, credit cards and every other type of debt other than mortgages, combined, according to data from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. It amounts to about $23,500 in new federal debt for every person in the country.

The growth in the annual deficit under Trump ranks as the third-biggest increase, relative to the size of the economy, of any U.S. presidential administration, according to a calculation by Eugene Steuerle, co-founder of the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center. And unlike George W. Bush and Abraham Lincoln, who oversaw the larger relative increases in deficits, Trump did not launch two foreign conflicts or have to pay for a civil war....   

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/01/14/trump-legacy-national-debt-increasee/

If you read the whole article,  it becomes clearer how fiscal conservatives like me see a future with much less of our government revenue available to do the actual work of government.   We were lied to,  bigly.

LOL
ROFL!

Then please explain Biden’s $1.9 trillion Covid spending plan AFTER the $900 billion Congress appropriated last month, and the $2.9 trillion it foisted on us in early 2020.
And no less than a true Socialist like Bernie Sanders describes this latest fiasco no less than Biden’s
“ first installment”!
And what is this first installment ?
Nothing but rehashed Obama and democrat  redistribution of income to appease unions and the usual cast of of those not needing $1400 checks. (your definition)
There is 100$billion or so to help get Americans vaccinated but the rest?
Raising unemployment benefits through September means employers will have an even tougher time of putting people back to work. Then he doubles his stupidity by wanting to raise the minimum wage $15 which means employers won’t be able to put people back to work.
Oh, the WSJ points out Biden plans to help minority-owned small businesses with $190 billion in “equitably” distributed loans and grants. But if this is doled out based on race, it could be unconstitutional.

If the republicans support this idiocy then we are all in trouble.
.

Can cocksuckers be far behind?

[josh]

“A third of the Republicans will leave the party,” Paul continued. “This isn’t about, anymore, the Electoral College, this is about the future of the party, and whether you’re going to ostracize and excommunicate President Trump from the party. Well, guess what? Millions of his fans will leave as well.”-----


Right.

But you said he put party ahead of nation.

To which I said "you are (both) wrong.

Paul believes that Republican party rule is best for the nation.  Thus what he said is to benefit BOTH party and nation.

Nothing there about nation, kiddo.

Good try.

But it is still about him, not even the party.

[Yankguy1]

Come Wednesday, Red is going to express great concern about the deficit.

[LarryBnDC]

Come Wednesday, Red is going to express great concern about the deficit.

Pay the man, Shirley!

[REDSTATEWARD]

Come Wednesday, Red is going to express great concern about the deficit.

No, you are.

[kidcarter8]

“Look, I didn’t agree with the [Capitol] fight that happened last week, and I voted against overturning the election, but at the same time, the impeachment is a wrongheaded, partisan notion, [and] if Republicans go along with it, it’ll destroy the party,” (Senator Rand) Paul said during the interview.

“A third of the Republicans will leave the party,” Paul continued. “This isn’t about, anymore, the Electoral College, this is about the future of the party, and whether you’re going to ostracize and excommunicate President Trump from the party. Well, guess what? Millions of his fans will leave as well.”

More succinctly, "Because while I condemn insurrectionists, they're important to the party!"

Always putting party before country. That's WHO this asshole is.

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This is UNO, right?

Why do you say he didnt mention the nation?

[LarryBnDC]

Some $42 million in city tax incentives and loans — race-blind under Oklahoma law — has largely benefited White-owned firms that won the majority of contracts to develop lucrative parcels closest to downtown, according to city officials and business leaders.


100 years of equity burned away.

Priced out of the Renaissance.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/01/17/tulsa-massacre-greenwood-black-wall-street-gentrification/?arc404=true


Meanwhile...

Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.) penned a letter apologizing to his constituents in North Tulsa, Oklahoma, for initially backing a challenge of battleground states’ electoral votes in Congress, saying he “did not realize” he was hurting Black voters in those states by doing so, as Republicans who opposed the election results face growing consequences in the wake of Trump supporters’ violent storming of the U.S. Capitol building.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/01/15/gop-senator-lankford-oklahoma-apologizes-to-black-constituents-for-challenging-election-results/?sh=5a2fdbf167ec