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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #63660 on: January 19, 2021, 01:12:34 PM »

Any comments on the arrest of John Harris after the Capitol uprising?

You dont need a link for that
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #63662 on: January 19, 2021, 02:14:03 PM »

January 18, 2021: While most of the political attention in 2020 was on the presidential race, there were also 5,875 state legislative seats up for regularly scheduled elections on November 3. As a result of the elections, control of 315 seats flipped from one party to another.[1]

Republicans gained a net 141 seats, Democrats lost a net 133 seats, and independent and third party candidates lost a net eight seats. Other than Hawaii, every state holding state legislative elections saw at least one seat flip parties.[1]

Fifty seats flipped party control in New Hampshire, the most of any state. Forty-nine of those seats flipped to Republicans — 48 from Democrats and one from a Libertarian. One seat flipped from Republican to Democrat. As a result, both chambers of the New Hampshire General Court changed from Democratic to Republican control.[1]


- Rasmussen

What can be said?

A lot of white folks just can't get out of their own damn way.
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« Reply #63663 on: January 19, 2021, 02:15:23 PM »


Fifty seats flipped party control in New Hampshire, the most of any state. Forty-nine of those seats flipped to Republicans — 48 from Democrats and one from a Libertarian. One seat flipped from Republican to Democrat. As a result, both chambers of the New Hampshire General Court changed from Democratic to Republican control.[1]

As I reported in November.

DEFUND THE POLICE!

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #63664 on: January 19, 2021, 02:19:39 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEyDTMLcqmM

Melania Trump's farewell address to the nation, in which she calls for kindness, while snubbing the Bidens.

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« Reply #63665 on: January 19, 2021, 02:29:14 PM »

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« Reply #63666 on: January 19, 2021, 02:32:45 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEyDTMLcqmM

Melania Trump's farewell address to the nation, in which she calls for kindness, while snubbing the Bidens.

Did Dems have one kind word to say about her for the last 4 years?

If I were her I wouldn't have even given a farewell address.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #63667 on: January 19, 2021, 02:36:14 PM »

Happy Martin Luther King Day!

But remember when he was murdered April 4, 1968 he was one of the most reviled men in America.

Was he?

Yes.

http://baltimoretimes-online.com/news/2020/feb/07/martin-luther-king-they-love/

Usually an opinion piece such as this, with embedded unsourced "facts" isn't something I'd count as evidence. But, I do like the argument the writer makes. I think idealizing humans does reduce their true nature to one we assign, as oppose to one that is or was.

"Please don’t act like everyone loved my father. He was assassinated. A 1967 poll reflected that he was one of the most hated men in America. Most hated. Many who quote him now and evoke him to deter justice today would likely hate, and may already hate, the authentic King." #MLK

Berniece King


I forgot. Larry doesn't do nuance.

So...who has argued here that MLK was not vilified and loathed by many?

If you make a statement, Larry, you should back it with facts. Barton did that for you with his post. You? Not so much.

But again, the point that was made in the Baltimore link you provided was a good one. Too often we idealize humans, and with great risk of poisoning the well from which wish to drink.

I do think for most Americans today is seen as a "black holiday".

Sad to say, but likely true for most Americans.

Even so, King's legacy plays out in different ways----just ask Kamala Harris on Wednesday. Or the new black Senator from Georgia.

Then again, don't ask the ADL, who is keenly aware of the actions and words and plans of Ya'll Quaeda. They aren't feeling the love from Americans today anymore than MLK did then.

Yeah...

What the fuck does she know?

She knows what she's been told. She's only 57.

Not sure why you'd miss the larger point other than for the convenience of avoiding real discussion.


Real discussion?

About some bullshit you feel the need to spread?

Fuck that.

My energies lie elsewhere.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #63668 on: January 19, 2021, 02:38:23 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/trump-self-pardon-warning/index.html

Trump apparently has been convinced not to pardon his children or the GOP legislators who were involved in the insurrection. (And apparently, some sought such a pardon, though I take that from the article, not from direct knowledge.)

This is all a good thing, IMO, regardless of his motives for not pardoning.
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« Reply #63669 on: January 19, 2021, 02:38:44 PM »

White supremacist turns self in after storming Capitol with baseball bat

https://www.foxnews.com/us/capitol-rioter-assault-police-baseball-bat

Wait a minute....

Didn't click on this, but curious what your point is?

Kid loves to spread his message of brotherhood to all mankind.
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« Reply #63670 on: January 19, 2021, 02:39:17 PM »

Quote
“Whites, it must frankly be said, are not putting in a similar mass effort to reeducate themselves out of their racial ignorance. It is an aspect of their sense of superiority that the white people of America believe they have so little to learn."
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« Reply #63671 on: January 19, 2021, 02:41:31 PM »

Happy Martin Luther King Day!

But remember when he was murdered April 4, 1968 he was one of the most reviled men in America.

Was he?

Yes.

http://baltimoretimes-online.com/news/2020/feb/07/martin-luther-king-they-love/

Usually an opinion piece such as this, with embedded unsourced "facts" isn't something I'd count as evidence. But, I do like the argument the writer makes. I think idealizing humans does reduce their true nature to one we assign, as oppose to one that is or was.

"Please don’t act like everyone loved my father. He was assassinated. A 1967 poll reflected that he was one of the most hated men in America. Most hated. Many who quote him now and evoke him to deter justice today would likely hate, and may already hate, the authentic King." #MLK

Berniece King


I forgot. Larry doesn't do nuance.

So...who has argued here that MLK was not vilified and loathed by many?

If you make a statement, Larry, you should back it with facts. Barton did that for you with his post. You? Not so much.

But again, the point that was made in the Baltimore link you provided was a good one. Too often we idealize humans, and with great risk of poisoning the well from which wish to drink.

I do think for most Americans today is seen as a "black holiday".

Sad to say, but likely true for most Americans.

Even so, King's legacy plays out in different ways----just ask Kamala Harris on Wednesday. Or the new black Senator from Georgia.

Then again, don't ask the ADL, who is keenly aware of the actions and words and plans of Ya'll Quaeda. They aren't feeling the love from Americans today anymore than MLK did then.

Yeah...

What the fuck does she know?

She knows what she's been told. She's only 57.

Not sure why you'd miss the larger point other than for the convenience of avoiding real discussion.


Real discussion?

About some bullshit you feel the need to spread?

Fuck that.

My energies lie elsewhere.

Oh, so you think Ms. King had her finger on the pulse of America at age 4.

Yes, put your energies into making sense.

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« Reply #63672 on: January 19, 2021, 02:44:40 PM »

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“Whites, it must frankly be said, are not putting in a similar mass effort to reeducate themselves out of their racial ignorance. It is an aspect of their sense of superiority that the white people of America believe they have so little to learn."
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Starting to sound like the Black Hebrew Israelites.
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« Reply #63673 on: January 19, 2021, 02:45:41 PM »

This, in turn, is posted to Bambu, to explain some of why looking out for others is important to many of us:


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« Reply #63674 on: January 19, 2021, 02:50:35 PM »



“Jus­tice” for black Amer­ica can­not be achieved by fram­ing it solely through the dis­torted lens of the
deaths of George Floyd, Bre­onna Tay­lor and oth­ers in fa­tal po­lice en­coun­ters. For every un­armed black Amer­i­can killed by the po­lice, hun­dreds are killed in neigh­bor­hood homi­cides.

Those who call for the de­fund­ing of po­lice de­part­ments, such as lead­ers of the of­fi­cial Black Lives Mat­ter or­ga­ni­za­tion, are silent about this in­conve­nient truth. They have a nar­ra­tive and can­not let the facts get in the way.

Their story is that the whole of Amer­i­can his­tory is stained and the whole of Amer­ica must be over­thrown.

When cit­i­zens de­clare that they sup­port Black Lives Mat­ter, do they share its op­po­si­tion to the nu­clear fam­ily, its ob­jec­tive of abol­ish­ing the po­lice, and its view that the Chris­t­ian cross is a sym­bol of white su­premacy?

These po­si­tions of the or­ga­ni­za­tion—language that has largely been scrubbed from its web­site—in no way im­prove the lives of black Amer­i­cans. They give up on black America and en­cour­age its need­less suf­fer­ing.

Like all Amer­i­cans, blacks have tri­umphed over their cir­cumstances only when they have adopted bour­geois virtues such as hard work, re­spect for learn­ing, self-dis­ci-pline, faith and per-sonal re­spon­si­bil­ity. In the 19th cen­tury, Freder­ick Dou­glass found read­ing to be the key to his own per­sonal lib­er­a­tion amid slavery, and he un­der­stood that whites de­lib­erately with­held lit­er­acy from blacks pre­cisely be­cause it was so valu­able. Bour­geois val­ues drove blacks to build the pow­er­ful re­li­gious, fra­ter­nal, and other vol­un­tary as­so­ci­a­tions that helped them thrive in the worst days of Jim Crow and cul­ti­vated the es­sen­tial virtues in the next gen­er­a­tion.

Tellingly, left­ist elites teach their own chil­dren the val­ues of work­ing and study­ing hard even as they en­cour­age be­hav­ior among blacks that will make sure they re­main un­com­pet­i­tive but “au­then­tic.” By the time young blacks to­day dis­cover, as did the slaves of Douglass’s time, that freedom un­der­stood as “do what­ever you feel like” is no way to build a worth­while life, it will be too late. The fruits of the civil-rights move­ment’s hard la­bor—teach­ing the young to be so self-dis­ci-plined that they were able to re­sist re­spond-ing in kind to ha­tred and abuse from whites—will have been lost.

We must turn away from the present course, which preaches de­spair rather than hope. Black achieve­ment must be glo­ri­fied. The cru­ci­fixion of black Amer­ica by the rad­i­cal left must halt. There is a grander, more fruit­ful fu­ture for us all.


Excerpted from the Wall Street Journal article Jan 15, 2021-
How the Left Hijacked Civil Rights

authored by Robert Woodson, Sr.and Joshua Mitchell
Mr. Wood­son, a vet­eran of the civilrights move­ment, is founder and pres­i­dent of the Wood­son Cen­ter and au­thor, most re­cently, of “Lessons From the Least of These: The Wood­son Prin­ci­ples.”
Mr. Mitchell is a Wash­ing-ton Fel­low at the Clare-mont Cen­ter for the Amer­i­can Way of Life and au­thor of “Amer­ican Awak­en­ing: Identity Pol­i­tics and Other Af­flic­tions of Our Time.”   

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