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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[Oilcandide]

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/obama-fake-news-jordan-peele-psa-video-buzzfeed

Achtung,  chiennes!   

[Hairy Lime]

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cosmo-mocked-rebekah-jones-puffy-coverage

Fox News denouncing someone as a "publicly dishonest conspiracy theorist with a dodgy past" is the funniest thing ever.

[kidcarter8]

If it's true it's true

[barton]

The reporter does no investigation but rather relies on snips from the Washington Examiner,  and twitter quotes from uncredentialed sources.   While it may be the case that Cosmo did a puffy piece,  that is in no way probative that Jones's allegations are false.   The journalist quoted at the start,  Mark Hemingway,  is a far right hack for RCP. 

There is considerable evidence,  from multiple sources,  that Jones's core contention is correct:  Florida doctored its covid data and misled the public.   Josh,  myself,  and another member posted on this a few months back.   Attacking Jones's character is far easier than refuting her evidence.   I notice Fox hasn't managed the latter.   

[josh]

If it's true it's true

Which you only apply to Dems.

GOP folks get "due process" from you.

[kidcarter8]

If it's true it's true

Which you only apply to Dems.

GOP folks get "due process" from you.

You would have to be much more specific for me to give u a response

[Hairy Lime]

If it's true it's true

And if it's false, it's Fox.

[josh]

If it's true it's true

Which you only apply to Dems.

GOP folks get "due process" from you.

You would have to be much more specific for me to give u a response

You would have to have integrity for me to spend time digging for the ample specifics.

Instead, it would be a huge waste of time, rather than this small one.

[facilitatorn]

In this last cycle, as in every modern cycle, the preponderance of discovered illegal votes were by republicans for republicans. Republicans feel they could have cheated more last year and are gearing up more and bigger cheating for the next cycle through their state legislative majorities.

Kiid hopes this will make his party more successful despite them being a platformless collection of grifters, sadists, and parasites. Kiid is as always a dirty, dirty boy.

http://www.salon.com/2021/03/13/time-to-see-trump-as-a-normal-politician-grubby-grasping-corrupt-and-banal/

[barton]

If it's true it's true

Which you only apply to Dems.

GOP folks get "due process" from you.

You would have to be much more specific for me to give u a response

I wrote a highly specific response,  touching on the article's points and sources,  and yet you didn't reply to that either.   So why should Josh believe he wouldn't also get a nonresponse?   Blowing off on-point posts violates the basic purpose of a political thread,  and diminishes anyone's motivation to give you a fuller response.   If you want to have intelligent discourse,  you need to provide your own thinking and evidence for your positions,  and respond to others when they do same.   

[kidcarter8]

I linked to a piece on Rebekah Jones

Someone defended her.

I said, if it's true it's true

Nothing more.

[kidcarter8]

Josh's comment on how I treat Republicans differently is what needed clarification - and SPECIFICITY

So no, Barton - you aren't involved in that.

[kidcarter8]

Cosmopolitan also praised Jones’ now-panned media tour in 2020, recounting that she took on DeSantis "on CNN, NPR, CBS, and Twitter, each time coming off as self-assured, almost bored, wildly in command of the science – and not at all intimidated by the pugilistic governor who seemed obsessed with discrediting her." Among Jones' interviewers was CNN’s Chris Cuomo, whose puffy sitdowns with his big brother, Democratic New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, around the same time period brought unprecedented embarrassment to the liberal network.

The piece, penned by Florida-based journalist Emily Bloch, also strangely tied DeSantis’ approval rating to Jones' criticisms, calling her a "pandemic cult hero, a sort of Floridian Fauci."


Barton?

Any response to this - other than just disparaging the writer's persona?

Was the Cosmo puff piece really an honest appraisal?

[kidcarter8]

The FDLE said the investigation began Nov. 10 after the agency received a complaint from the Health Department that someone illegally accessed a state emergency-alert messaging system, known as ReadyOp. Agents said they found a message sent from Jones's residence in Tallahassee.

They said that evidence retrieved from a search warrant Dec. 7 showed Jones illegally accessed the state system and sent a message to approximately 1,750 people. They also said she downloaded confidential Health Department data and saved it to her devices.


And this?  Barton?  Hello?  Class?  Anyone?

[josh]

Josh's comment on how I treat Republicans differently is what needed clarification - and SPECIFICITY

So no, Barton - you aren't involved in that.

(a) No, it needs neither clarification nor specificity. Barton's comment was on point.

(b) You keep trying to make the rules here about who can talk to whom about what, when, and where. If you want a private dialog with me, send me a private message. If you want post your bullshit were everybody who has not yet put you on ignore can see it, then they have the right to respond to it and you if they so choose.

They are involved in it by virtue of your having posted it in a forum in which they are equal members with you.

Get the fuck over yourself.