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Calling somebody human scum
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If Clinton said it, that's worse. If Trump said it, he's right.
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Voting closed: November 03, 2019, 03:12:02 AM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #45 on: July 31, 2018, 12:54:27 PM »

For the moment the torture fetish behind it is still socially unacceptable.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #46 on: July 31, 2018, 12:58:31 PM »

I'd be surprised if I continue to discuss politics here.  But if this thread plays out reasonably, without rancor and name calling, and includes useful links and info, I'd happily stick around and contribute.
Been nice knowing you.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #47 on: July 31, 2018, 01:10:09 PM »

Bo, you are a scholar and a gentleman. Your voice and vision would add a lot to this board. It would be great to add your take on issues that concern the other side of the big ocean.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #48 on: July 31, 2018, 01:38:56 PM »

To begin with, 80 percent of the children who have crossed over since 2014 are not with parents but are unaccompanied. Only 20 percent come with parents.

LOL. How do these dimwits think this statistic disproves the Trump Administration policy of separating children from parents legally requesting refugee status, and their failure to fully comply with court ordered reunification?

Why do you think they are saying it does?

The title of the piece of garbage you linked to, for a start; "Government data shows the entire "family separation" crisis was built of lies."

And then how it uses that very statistic and others to argue that "the illegals are self-separating from their kids" before shifting to argue that the kids who are left here after being separated will become future gang members.

Illuminating stuff kidcarter8.  Reposting it (twice) saying far more about your deplorable views than shedding any light on the family separation issue.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #49 on: July 31, 2018, 01:41:00 PM »

A dispatch from current family separation hearings, for anyone interested in knowing what actually happened:

BREAKING: Commander Jonathan White of HHS just admitted he warned Trump @realDonaldTrump & Sessions about "significant risk of harm" & "psychological injury" as consequence of zero tolerance & was ignored: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-ice-border-patrol-testify-at-senate-hearing-on-family-separations … @KPBSMidday

https://twitter.com/jeanguerre/status/1024341961778622465
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #50 on: July 31, 2018, 01:42:03 PM »

I'd be surprised if I continue to discuss politics here.  But if this thread plays out reasonably, without rancor and name calling, and includes useful links and info, I'd happily stick around and contribute.
Been nice knowing you.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #51 on: July 31, 2018, 02:00:57 PM »

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/31/us/politics/facebook-political-campaign-midterms.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

Facebook announced on Tuesday that it has identified a coordinated political influence campaign, with dozens of inauthentic accounts and pages that are believed to be engaging in political activity around divisive social issues ahead of November’s midterm elections.

When asked if Russia was involved in meddling with Facebook accounts to influence the '18 elections, it was unclear whether Putin said, "nyet" or "not yet"
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #52 on: July 31, 2018, 03:37:26 PM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #53 on: July 31, 2018, 04:07:12 PM »

I'd be surprised if I continue to discuss politics here.  But if this thread plays out reasonably, without rancor and name calling, and includes useful links and info, I'd happily stick around and contribute.
Been nice knowing you.

We all know only one of us provides useful links
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #54 on: July 31, 2018, 04:09:26 PM »

To begin with, 80 percent of the children who have crossed over since 2014 are not with parents but are unaccompanied. Only 20 percent come with parents.

LOL. How do these dimwits think this statistic disproves the Trump Administration policy of separating children from parents legally requesting refugee status, and their failure to fully comply with court ordered reunification?

Why do you think they are saying it does?

The title of the piece of garbage you linked to, for a start; "Government data shows the entire "family separation" crisis was built of lies."

And then how it uses that very statistic and others to argue that "the illegals are self-separating from their kids" before shifting to argue that the kids who are left here after being separated will become future gang members.

Illuminating stuff kidcarter8.  Reposting it (twice) saying far more about your deplorable views than shedding any light on the family separation issue.

They lay out the numbers fairly clearly.  Leaves plenty of room for parents separated from their children and having legit angst about it.  Just doesnt describe as high a percentage of the cases as the left would have you believe
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #55 on: July 31, 2018, 04:13:00 PM »

"I am looking into 3-D Plastic Guns being sold to the public,” Trump said. “Already spoke to NRA, doesn’t seem to make much sense!”

Blind squirrel found an acorn.   

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56 on: July 31, 2018, 04:22:28 PM »

During Senate testimony earlier in the day, HHS Secretary Alex Azar told legislators children couldn’t be reunited with parents in detention unless the law was modified or parents completed their legal process:

We’re not allowed to have a child be with a parent who is in custody of the Department of Homeland Security for more than 20 days. And so until we can get Congress to change that law, the forcible separation there of the family units, we’ll hold them or place them with another family relative in the United States. But we are working to get all of these kids ready to be placed back with their parents, get that all cleared up, as soon as if Congress passes a change or if those parents complete their immigration proceedings, we can then reunify

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If you’re smuggling a child, then we’re going to prosecute you, and that child will be separated from you, probably, as required by law. If you don’t want your child separated, then don’t bring them across the border illegally. It’s not our fault that somebody does that.



https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/06/26/hhs-detained-parents-prolonged-child-detention/
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #57 on: July 31, 2018, 04:47:53 PM »

They lay out the numbers fairly clearly.  Leaves plenty of room for parents separated from their children and having legit angst about it.  Just doesnt describe as high a percentage of the cases as the left would have you believe

"The left" (or you know, the news) doesn't cite a "percentage."  They cite the number of children separated and detained, a number that came from the Trump Administration.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #58 on: July 31, 2018, 05:00:05 PM »

"I am looking into 3-D Plastic Guns being sold to the public,” Trump said. “Already spoke to NRA, doesn’t seem to make much sense!”

Blind squirrel found an acorn.
Bl8nd squirrel created the acorn. It is a Trump reversal of an Obama position that made it legal to sell the plans to printable guns.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #59 on: July 31, 2018, 05:00:58 PM »

I'd be surprised if I continue to discuss politics here.  But if this thread plays out reasonably, without rancor and name calling, and includes useful links and info, I'd happily stick around and contribute.
Been nice knowing you.

We all know only one of us provides useful links
Must be me, because your links aren't useful.
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