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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[kiidcarter8]

Some assclown showhost actually asked the question:

"If they HAD nobody else and asked you (LeBron) to run against Trump, what would you say?"

Need more IQ points in visual media.

[FlyingVProd]

We need to keep all of the forums, we do not need to reduce the number of forums.

If you do not like all of the threads, then stay off of the threads that you do not want, but leave the threads there for the people who do want the threads.

And Escape From Elba is great for people in nursing homes, and in hospitals, etc, as well as for students, etc, the more threads the better, we need to keep all of the threads.

Please do not reduce the number of forums.

Salute,

Tony V.

[kiidcarter8]

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1025496884977254400

[facilitatorn]

All three of the wives and both daughters would rather be with LeBron than trump.

http://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/08/melania-trump-stands-apart-from-her-husband-says-nice-things-about-lebron-james.html

Melania is open about it.

LeBron never raped Ivana so makes King James her clear choice.

Marla is still probably getting shots because of how badly donald lost his personal Vietnam.

Tiffany, the trump with the closest thing to taste, knows what’s up.

Ivanka won’t tell daddy, but she’s got league pass.

[kiidcarter8]

Country is just whacky enough to elect LeBron - yes.

And who the fuck knows - maybe he'd delegate well enough to do a decent job

But it would be embarassing to have LBJ as your nominee. wouldnt it?

[facilitatorn]

Country is just whacky enough to elect LeBron - yes.

And who the fuck knows - maybe he'd delegate well enough to do a decent job

But it would be embarassing to have LBJ as your nominee. wouldnt it?

Last time we ran an LBJ he took the seat.

He’s done more for education than the DeVoss family in its whole history.

[kiidcarter8]

Damn - I was there a month too early...

https://twitter.com/JNTHN_LCKWD/status/1025843952241369088

[luee]

Any doubt that the poor white vote is what cost HRC the election?

Yes, Luee. Plenty of doubt.

While it is very clear from both exit polling and looking at county-level maps that "poor white vote" - or more to the point, those without a college education - voted for Trump aplenty, it is equally clear that (a) without the Comey letter, Clinton would have won; (b) without the single-minded focus of the media on that letter, Clinton would have won; (c) without the Russians' efforts, Clinton would have won; (d) without the sexist belief on the part of Republicans (59%), Independents (37%), and Democrats (11%) that they do not want to see a woman be president, Clinton would have won. It's even possible that Clinton's campaigning in those areas of 3 states, she might have won.

It was not one thing. It took all of them.

Coal mines are dirty and filthy and have to be eliminated? The rights of the illegal immigrants?

---In February 2017, Stanley Greenberg, a Democratic pollster and strategist, conducted four postelection focus groups with white voters who had cast ballots for Trump in Macomb County, Michigan, an area he has been studying since 1985. The participants were not Republicans. They were whites without college degrees who identified themselves as independents, as Democratic-leaning independents, or as Democrats who voted for Obama in 2008, 2012 or both.


“Immigration is a powerful issue for these Trump voters, representing a demand that citizens come before noncitizens, Americans before foreigners, and that we take care of home first before abroad,” Greenberg wrote in his report for The Roosevelt Institute:---

HRC had these elitist agendas that were not pro-union.

---How Immigration Foiled Hillary---

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/opinion/clinton-trump-immigration.html

Also conspiracies from Russians, the FBI, and misogynists? I voted for her because the Donald is insane and fascist but she made it a very difficult choice which it should not have been.

[kiidcarter8]

Country is just whacky enough to elect LeBron - yes.

And who the fuck knows - maybe he'd delegate well enough to do a decent job

But it would be embarassing to have LBJ as your nominee. wouldnt it?

Last time we ran an LBJ he took the seat.

Then he turned ass and ran away

[josh]

https://www.motherjones.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/blog_generic_support_women_republicans.jpg

Steve Bannon says that the White College-educated Republican woman is extinct.

He's not quite right, but that sure is the trend. And don't think that the mass abduction of the children and then reluctance to reunite them ("The ACLU should return find the deported parents" according to the Trump administration) is lost on them, no matter what bs they try to spin, like the one Kiid quoted and defended.

[josh]

Any doubt that the poor white vote is what cost HRC the election?

Yes, Luee. Plenty of doubt.

While it is very clear from both exit polling and looking at county-level maps that "poor white vote" - or more to the point, those without a college education - voted for Trump aplenty, it is equally clear that (a) without the Comey letter, Clinton would have won; (b) without the single-minded focus of the media on that letter, Clinton would have won; (c) without the Russians' efforts, Clinton would have won; (d) without the sexist belief on the part of Republicans (59%), Independents (37%), and Democrats (11%) that they do not want to see a woman be president, Clinton would have won. It's even possible that Clinton's campaigning in those areas of 3 states, she might have won.

It was not one thing. It took all of them.

Coal mines are dirty and filthy and have to be eliminated? The rights of the illegal immigrants?

---In February 2017, Stanley Greenberg, a Democratic pollster and strategist, conducted four postelection focus groups with white voters who had cast ballots for Trump in Macomb County, Michigan, an area he has been studying since 1985. The participants were not Republicans. They were whites without college degrees who identified themselves as independents, as Democratic-leaning independents, or as Democrats who voted for Obama in 2008, 2012 or both.


“Immigration is a powerful issue for these Trump voters, representing a demand that citizens come before noncitizens, Americans before foreigners, and that we take care of home first before abroad,” Greenberg wrote in his report for The Roosevelt Institute:---

HRC had these elitist agendas that were not pro-union.

"Elitist" means you think we should be ashamed of having a college education. I get it, Luee.

But nothing you said here responds to what I said in the slightest.

I granted that white people without a college degree voted against her.

What you fail to understand is how many of those you mention were searching for excuses - and buying into lies that excused them from any responsibility for their own lives' situations.

But also, how many of them could not conceive of a woman as president and would fall back on any excuse they could find for not voting for her.

[kiidcarter8]

The Obama administration separated families that had crossed the border

Went widely unreported.

[josh]

The Obama administration separated families that had crossed the border

Went widely unreported.

No, it got reported.

Some of us protested it then, too, Kiid.

And it got challenged in court and stopped.

But what you continue to refuse to acknowledge is that the numbers were miniscule compared to what Trump did, that Trump did it intentionally as a deterrent and as a form of blackmail to force the Dems to agree to pay for his Wall (which he admitted, albeit without the word "blackmail"), and that the Obama administration intentionally kept track of where the kids were going and had no difficulty reuniting families.

Trump made the policy an absolute one. "Zero tolerance."
Trump changed the policy to have border crossers handled in criminal court rather than civil to excuse the kidnapping of the children.
Trump had the Border Patrol block legal asylum applicants and applications.
Trump had them take children from  legitimate border crossing families.
Trump planned this a year in advance, with a trial run of his program.
Trump's people intentionally did not keep records of which kids were sent where.
Trump's administration has dragged its feet about reuniting families time and again with efforts to say "We put the kids with foster families, now. That should be enough, right?" and "The ACLU should find the parents that got deported, not us." and "Those parents abandoned their children. It's not our fault."

Your ongoing support for this immoral operation speaks volumes to your inhumanity, Kiid, at least as much as the actions do to the Trump administration's, starting with the rotting head of government.

[bodiddley]

But it would be embarassing to have LBJ as your nominee. wouldnt it?

No more embarrassing than Trump or Hillary, McCain or W. Bush, Biden or Palin.

It's tough to get up to speed on so many issues.  Trump blustered through the process and often didn't understand the issues.  Then again as a pro athlete, there is a lot of down time, and LeBJ could spend the season with advisors tutoring him on an issue every few weeks.  With major study time in the Summer.

It will be interesting to see if there is a backlash against celebrities and non-pols running for high office given the level of chaos, unpredictability, sketchy ideas poorly implemented and lack of decorum Trump has brought.  Or if it simply becomes the new normal as our society continues to decay. 

Certainly the Dems aren't making the case that celebs and amateurs are bad at politics because they are unprepared, don't understand the issues and ad-hockery is not the way to run a country.  Maybe the GOP will make that case, and it will be interesting to see if Romney or any Repub runs against Trump's reelection.

[kiidcarter8]

Zero tolerance unequal to zero reuniting.