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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[josh]

“ if you don't approve of the job I am doing, you are welcome to complain to the Admin about it.

Josh has a job on here?

Keep up with the conversation Red.

I did.

Of course. That's why you asked the question.

Uh huh.

tff

Troll is your job?
Time to morph into Evvie again.

That would be hard to do. I'd have to have done it once.

But given that you don't believe in science, it's not shocking that you don't believe in IP addresses, either.

Lost one argument, so you shifted to another asinine claim. I don't know where she is, but I sure couldn't blame her if she didn't return.

IP addresses are science?
How about Zip Codes.?
Postal Addresses?

LOL

Dear Red,

Once upon a time, we had these things called computers which allowed us to post things on the internet. When we posted, sometime websites would show an IP address.

Technology, the application of science, permitted the user's IP address to be seen. It did not permit the zip codes to be seen, except in so far as an IP address might lead to one, as an IP address would show which Internet Provider the person was using, allowing research of that company's local setting from the number.

Zip codes don't work as well alone, though the postmark may indicate which post office a letter item is from. You could apply that science-derived technology to look them up.

Similarly, if you were to call me, I could look up your area code, should you fail to block your number. That, too, involves science - but neither zip nor area codes are as simple or direct as an IP address.

All the best,

~Josh

p.s. Morse code also seems like it might be useful to you, as you are coming across as ditzy.

LOL!
Nothing you wrote remotely addressed my post.
NOTHING.
You may want to re-read it and take notes.

Thank you, Draxx.

[facilitatorn]

Meanwhile, America’s youth continue to heal the nation one statue at a time.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/silent-sam-confederate-statue-at-university-of-north-carolina-toppled-by-protesters

[josh]

But the phrase is not "work still to be done," when it comes to the DEBT. It's "Work as yet unbegun and going actively in the wrong direction.

Disagree.

It has begun.  The necessary expenditures to get the nation up to speed have just been greater than the cuts.

Like I said - the Trump Presidency is young.

Yes, we know you disagree, Kiid.

But you have no facts to support your position.

The growth for this year was predicted before Trump got elected.

The increase in the deficit was not - that was directly caused by Trump.

The predictions have it continuing to exceed the prior prediction, by increasing amounts.

There is no plan to alleviate the growth. And, as already indicated, cutting Social Security and Medicare won't fix the problem.

[josh]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/20/politics/rudy-giulliani-meet-the-press/index.html

Giuliani's Sunday appearance was more of a train wreck than I had realized.

Beyond his "truth is not truth" brilliance, he misrepresented some things while confirming what the meeting at Trump Tower was for and that it was at a minimum, intended collusion with the Russian government, even if it didn't succeed. Conspiracy does not require success.

GIULIANI: Well, because the meeting was originally for the purpose of getting information about, about Clinton. The meeting turned into a meeting --

CHUCK TODD: Which in itself it's attempted collusion. I understand --

RUDY GIULIANI: No it's not.

CHUCK TODD: You just said it. The meeting was intended to get dirt on Hillary Clinton from a criminal lawyer.

RUDY GIULIANI: No, it wasn't. No, no.

CHUCK TODD: That was the intention of the meeting, you just said it.

RUDY GIULIANI: That was the original intention of the meeting. It turned out to be a meeting about another subject and it was not pursued at all. And, of course, any meeting with regard to getting information on your opponent is something any candidate's staff would take. If someone said, I have information about your opponent, you would take that meeting. If it happens to be a person with a Russian --

CHUCK TODD: From the Russian government?

RUDY GIULIANI: She didn't represent the Russian government, she's a private citizen. I don't even know if they knew she was Russian at the time. All they had was her name.

Just amazing.

Keep it up, Rudy!

[josh]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/20/opinions/trump-afghanistan-war-not-going-well-bergen/

About that war in Afghanistan...

Sounds pretty gloomy from here.

Trump must have a plan, though, since ISIS is there, attacking Shia Muslims and others.

[LarryBnDC]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/20/politics/rudy-giulliani-meet-the-press/index.html

Giuliani's Sunday appearance was more of a train wreck than I had realized.

Beyond his "truth is not truth" brilliance, he misrepresented some things while confirming what the meeting at Trump Tower was for and that it was at a minimum, intended collusion with the Russian government, even if it didn't succeed. Conspiracy does not require success.

GIULIANI: Well, because the meeting was originally for the purpose of getting information about, about Clinton. The meeting turned into a meeting --

CHUCK TODD: Which in itself it's attempted collusion. I understand --

RUDY GIULIANI: No it's not.

CHUCK TODD: You just said it. The meeting was intended to get dirt on Hillary Clinton from a criminal lawyer.

RUDY GIULIANI: No, it wasn't. No, no.

CHUCK TODD: That was the intention of the meeting, you just said it.

RUDY GIULIANI: That was the original intention of the meeting. It turned out to be a meeting about another subject and it was not pursued at all. And, of course, any meeting with regard to getting information on your opponent is something any candidate's staff would take. If someone said, I have information about your opponent, you would take that meeting. If it happens to be a person with a Russian --

CHUCK TODD: From the Russian government?

RUDY GIULIANI: She didn't represent the Russian government, she's a private citizen. I don't even know if they knew she was Russian at the time. All they had was her name.

Just amazing.

Keep it up, Rudy!

Would have been killer if Chuck had mentioned the email that said the Russian government had dirt on Clinton and Fred responded, “I love it.”

[facilitatorn]

It was Fredo with the emails who loved it, at least the douche with Fredo’s Haircut (but none of his charm).

How Mueller got Giuliani to to represent trump is both a mystery and one of the greatest legal moves by an investigator in several generations.

We’ve got to get Alfa Bank’s lawyer out of the Department of Justice. There has to be one more cell in the clink where Manafort and Butina are staying.

[barton]

Thank you Shelby v. Holder...

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/08/georgia-voter-suppression-brian-kemps-bid-for-governor-depends-on-erasing-the-black-vote-its-working.html

heh

Nice headline.

It's usually real obvious when you haven't read the linked article.   Most people understand that gutting federal oversight of electoral procedures, resulting in the closing of 7 out of 9 polling stations in a location where rural black voters will be adversely affected (many lack transportation...or time to stand in long lines), is an attack on democracy.   

Shelby v Holder was hard for the lay person to follow but its consequences are not.  If you were any kind of American you would be outraged by this assault on the Constitution. 

[luee]

On the VA front, just got a huge back-pay check totally unexpected. For all of his faults and sanity concerns the Donald has proven a huge improvement over BHO in helping the veteran and modernizing the system. No more daily scandals about veterans dying while awaiting care.

[bodiddley]

The shock waves this time came from substantiated allegations that a well-known cardinal, Theodore McCarrick, a retired archbishop of Washington, had molested boys; he was forced to resign last month from the College of Cardinals. Then came the grand jury report out of Pennsylvania detailing 70 years of horrific abuse by some 300 priests, too much of it facilitated by bishops.

McCarrick started his rise in the church hierarchy as the first bishop of Metuchen (NJ) diocese in 1981, which extends west all the way to Pennsylvania and is centered on St Francis Cathedral in Metuchen, the church where I was dragged to some Sundays as a kid.

[barton]

Dragged to church?  Abuse!

Seriously, I can sympathize with the petition that's out there to have all U.S. bishops resign.  If an institution seems corrupt enough, the solution often seems to be to wipe it clean and start over.  My wife is Catholic, and does stuff with the music program where she meets with young people.  They made her go to a series of workshops that exhaustively went over all the methods for not doing anything inappropriate.  She says they go to extremes that rob children of something they need for normal psychological development:  touch.  And, sometimes, the need for a one-on-one private conversation with a sympathetic adult.  That's forbidden now, too.  Everything must be done with the door open and a witness present.

When an innocent hug or touch on the shoulder becomes something charged with suspicion, there's something wrong with the world.  We are primates, and touch is vital to our emotional health.  This sort of sterile unfeeling outcome, where no one may touch anyone, is an ongoing part of the crime that these despicable priests committed.   May they rot in hell.

[LarryBnDC]

Dragged to church?  Abuse!

Seriously, I can sympathize with the petition that's out there to have all U.S. bishops resign.  If an institution seems corrupt enough, the solution often seems to be to wipe it clean and start over.  My wife is Catholic, and does stuff with the music program where she meets with young people.  They made her go to a series of workshops that exhaustively went over all the methods for not doing anything inappropriate.  She says they go to extremes that rob children of something they need for normal psychological development:  touch.  And, sometimes, the need for a one-on-one private conversation with a sympathetic adult.  That's forbidden now, too.  Everything must be done with the door open and a witness present.

When an innocent hug or touch on the shoulder becomes something charged with suspicion, there's something wrong with the world.  We are primates, and touch is vital to our emotional health.  This sort of sterile unfeeling outcome, where no one may touch anyone, is an ongoing part of the crime that these despicable priests committed.   May they rot in hell.

Not to be flippant but the Catholic Church could stand a few decades of women in leadership and the clergy were allowed to be human.

[bankshot1]

I'm neither anti-religion or anti-Catholic church, but re this Piitsburgh-diocese child porn sex ring and conspiracy, I do not understand why a statue of limitations should apply to these crimes that were covered up for decades, (for example until exposed by the grand jury report, the cover-up of the crimes was ongoing) or why RICO charges can't be brought against the organizations involved.

As for women as priests, yup, and let priests marry.

That may help the adverse selection process that seems to have infected the priest pool.

[NeedsAdjustments]

With their new pollution plans concerning coal-fired power plants, Trump and Republicans continue the trend of allowing big money to privatize more of their gains while shifting more of the costs onto the public.

There is no way to justify this from the point of view of "free market" economics.  Its pure crony capitalism.  The scandal that was "Solyndra" but real.  And with the end result of more deaths, worse health, and life for regular people being generally shittier while execs pocket more profits.

Do they think people just won't notice?

[NeedsAdjustments]

And don't tell me about coal jobs.  The number of people working in the US coal industry can barely fill one sports stadium.  Three times more people work in solar power in this country.

This is purely cultural (own those tree huggers!) and about rewarding political donors.