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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #1726 on: August 31, 2018, 08:45:26 AM »

Polls!


https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trouble-trump-disapproval-high-63-back-mueller-half/story?id=57507081

Don't want to give too many eggs to one poll or one pollster, but there is a lot here that should worry Trump, if he cared to look at it.  Particularly, the "strongly disapprove" numbers.

I would definitely not take too much from the drops in support from Republican and non-college white men.  Its possible Tariffs and Tax Cuts are hurting him there, and that borderline treasonous press conference with Putin probably still stings.  But the primaries have shown that in the GOP Trump still reigns.  Its his party. 

 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #1727 on: August 31, 2018, 09:31:57 AM »

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/30/politics/trump-cancels-federal-employee-pay-raises/index.html

Love it.

I know if the Congress doesn’t kill this stupid ass idea, (you cut a trillion in taxes, spend out the ass and then talk about budget?) you will DEFINITELY lose House seats in Virginia, Maryland and West Virginia that should have been fairly safe.

Don’t forget how many federal employees live and work in flyover, err, in the heartland.

The GOP has the proverbial tiger by the tail and it can’t let go and it can’t hang on.

Since he was recently proclaiming how strong the economy  is,  this seems an especially odd time to cry budget.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #1728 on: August 31, 2018, 09:56:06 AM »

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/30/opinion/race-politics-whiteness.html?action=click&module=Trending&pgtype=Article&region=Footer&contentCollection=Trending

The religion of Whiteness has become a suicide cult.

Skewers Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, and FDR, among others.

The prezzes I knew about,  but was not aware that Rupert Murdoch's father was a stalwart of the Eugenics movement.  Not surprised at all.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #1729 on: August 31, 2018, 12:03:56 PM »

Loved that trending photo of the Trump supporter at a rally, blocking the shot of another photographer taking a pic of a protestor.  If you don't want people crying "Nazi!" all the time, this is not the optics you want.  Straight out of the Hitler/Stalin playbook. 

Meanwhile, I thought this made a good point:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/impeachment-over-porn-star-payoffs-is-just-a-liberal-fantasy/2018/08/30/809d75b8-ac68-11e8-8a0c-70b618c98d3c_story.html?utm_term=.25ccc52c13ec

I think, if impeachment is to be a possibility, we need the special counsel to connect the dots on conspiring with a foreign power, namely Russia. 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #1730 on: August 31, 2018, 12:18:04 PM »

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/31/us/politics/beto-orourke-dreams-of-one-texas-ted-cruz-sees-another-clearly.html?imp_id=431823989

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More than anything, Mr. O’Rourke has made clear that he will not modulate his politics, betting that he can energize and activate nonvoters from past years, particularly younger ones, with left-wing authenticity and genial hustle. It is a model being pursued by progressives across the country, often with considerable success. Most recently, Andrew Gillum, the mayor of Tallahassee, Fla., won an upset victory in that state's Democratic primary for governor with a similar message of unflinching liberalism and generational change.

Mr. O’Rourke has defined the philosophy with a line borrowed from Jim Hightower, a prominent activist and commentator who was once Texas agriculture commissioner: “The only thing you’ll find in the middle of the road,” Mr. O’Rourke said in Houston recently, “are yellow lines and dead armadillos.”

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #1732 on: August 31, 2018, 02:27:18 PM »

In an effort to try to keep things even, following the resignation of two White House lawyers, Mueller announced that two of his lawyers would be leaving, as well.

This is more lipservice than true balance, as the caliber of the lawyers remaining in each organization are just not the same.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/31/politics/dickey-richardson-leave-mueller/index.html
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« Reply #1733 on: August 31, 2018, 03:20:13 PM »

You think the 2 lawyers leaving the Mueller team is a deliberate response to WH departures?  Not sure the timeline supports that.   The article says only that they left sometime this summer.  Also a little confused on how a balancing was called for... it depends on a specific ratio?   The article you linked doesn't provide enough information to connect events the way you have.   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #1734 on: August 31, 2018, 03:32:25 PM »

Nazis!

Nazis...

Ian M. Smith, a Department of Homeland Security analyst who resigned this week after he was confronted about his ties to white nationalist groups, attended multiple immigration policy meetings at the White House, according to government officials familiar with his work.

Smith quit his job Tuesday after being questioned about personal emails he sent and received between 2014 and 2016, before he joined the Trump administration. The messages, obtained by the Atlantic and detailed in a report published Tuesday, depict Smith engaging in friendly, casual conversations with prominent white supremacists and racists.

In one email from 2015, Smith responded to a group dinner invitation whose host said his home would be “judenfrei,” a German word used by the Nazis during World War II to describe territory that had been “cleansed” of Jews during the Holocaust.

“They don’t call it Freitag for nothing,” Smith replied, using the German word for “Friday,” according to the Atlantic. “I was planning to hit the bar during the dinner hours and talk to people like Matt Parrot, etc.,” Smith added, a reference to the former spokesman for the neo-Nazi Traditionalist Worker Party.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/homeland-security-staffer-with-white-nationalist-ties-attended-white-house-policy-meetings/2018/08/30/7fcb0212-abab-11e8-8a0c-70b618c98d3c_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6e2fa702dcdc
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #1735 on: August 31, 2018, 03:37:08 PM »

You think the 2 lawyers leaving the Mueller team is a deliberate response to WH departures?  Not sure the timeline supports that.   The article says only that they left sometime this summer.  Also a little confused on how a balancing was called for... it depends on a specific ratio?   The article you linked doesn't provide enough information to connect events the way you have.

I believe this was tongue-in-cheek, bart.

Bigger news re: Trump and Russia, another plea, another agreement to cooperate with Mueller.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/31/politics/w-samuel-patten-plea-russia-ukraine/index.html

This witch hunt has certainly unearthed a whole lot of witches.
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"When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."  -  The impeached "president" on Feb 27, 2020

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #1736 on: August 31, 2018, 05:13:11 PM »

You think the 2 lawyers leaving the Mueller team is a deliberate response to WH departures?

No, I don't. Not even remotely.

The articles' timing and the number of attorneys involved and the two cases are shared, but the actual events are totally unrelated.

My delicate sense of humor seems to have gotten out of hand, again.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #1737 on: August 31, 2018, 05:15:08 PM »

You think the 2 lawyers leaving the Mueller team is a deliberate response to WH departures?  Not sure the timeline supports that.   The article says only that they left sometime this summer.  Also a little confused on how a balancing was called for... it depends on a specific ratio?   The article you linked doesn't provide enough information to connect events the way you have.

I believe this was tongue-in-cheek, bart.

Bigger news re: Trump and Russia, another plea, another agreement to cooperate with Mueller.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/31/politics/w-samuel-patten-plea-russia-ukraine/index.html

This witch hunt has certainly unearthed a whole lot of witches.

*phew*

I feel better.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #1738 on: August 31, 2018, 05:24:25 PM »

Nazis!

Nazis...

Ian M. Smith, a Department of Homeland Security analyst who resigned this week after he was confronted about his ties to white nationalist groups, attended multiple immigration policy meetings at the White House, according to government officials familiar with his work.

Smith quit his job Tuesday after being questioned about personal emails he sent and received between 2014 and 2016, before he joined the Trump administration. The messages, obtained by the Atlantic and detailed in a report published Tuesday, depict Smith engaging in friendly, casual conversations with prominent white supremacists and racists.

In one email from 2015, Smith responded to a group dinner invitation whose host said his home would be “judenfrei,” a German word used by the Nazis during World War II to describe territory that had been “cleansed” of Jews during the Holocaust.

“They don’t call it Freitag for nothing,” Smith replied, using the German word for “Friday,” according to the Atlantic. “I was planning to hit the bar during the dinner hours and talk to people like Matt Parrot, etc.,” Smith added, a reference to the former spokesman for the neo-Nazi Traditionalist Worker Party.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/homeland-security-staffer-with-white-nationalist-ties-attended-white-house-policy-meetings/2018/08/30/7fcb0212-abab-11e8-8a0c-70b618c98d3c_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6e2fa702dcdc

Trump - you're gone

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« Reply #1739 on: August 31, 2018, 05:49:37 PM »

Obama had a whole cabinet of white supremacists.

Try again Kid.

If you want to connect trump to the American tradition, you have Nixon (crook), Andrew Johnson (traitor), and Reagan (fake and senile). That’s it. 
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