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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[kiidcarter8]

"This was done by the Democrats in order to make me look as bad as possible when I was successfully raising Billions of Dollars to help rebuild Puerto Rico. If a person died for any reason, like old age, just add them onto the list. Bad politics. I love Puerto Rico!" he wrote.



Discuss.

[barton]

The mortality stats were done in the same way as Katrina,  not from looking at lists where the cause of death might be given as "diabetes."  The method of analysis gets at situations where a storm,  and aftermath,  lead to a death that otherwise wouldn't have happened.  Say,  power is lost,  an insulin supply is ruined,  fresh insulin doesn't get there....the coroner doesn't write "Maria" on the death certificate, so you can't go by that.   You look at average mortality rates on a month,  then compare with rates after the storm,  which will reveal the differential.   Many people died from neglect and help not reaching them.   You don't just count direct cause like "tree fell on head. "  And,  no,  you don't go off a list of COD,  for the reason I just explained.  Trump wrote in ignorance of how stats were analyzed.

[Hamilton Samuels]

That's a good story,  Larry.   I am uncertain how it relates,  as an analogy,  to sportsmanship in tennis.

Larry just likes talking about Larry.

Beats talking about you.

Gee, Larry, you got your ass kicked on the tennis tantrum, and by several posters here.

Don't pout.

Just sdmit that you didn't see the match, you didn't know the facts, but you charged in ready for the another black-denied-justice moment, when that was never the situation.

Better pick your battles more wisely, and check your righteous indignation at the door.

No.

My righteous indignation is how I got be sixty... I never sit back and be quiet.  My argument was not just about the tennis match this weekend.

I still think there is a different standard in the world whether in sports or life in general. If you guys don’t get that am I not surprised.

Knicks

Now you are changing the argument. There are lots of double standards in the world (how many bubbles are in a bar of soap?)  No one argued that there aren't double standards.

But in this case, Team Serena admitted to signalling. She then escalated a lost point to a lost game, through her own actions.

She owns her behavior.

Perhaps your inability to get that others "get it" is shrouded by your righteous indignation.

Now there are lots of causes and reasons to wave your righteous indignation, but Serena trying to game a game, is probably not the best time to do it.

Tell that to Billie Jean King, but then again what would she know? Especially with the mighty wisdom you imparted to your girl.

My girl was an ice hockey goon in high school. Was an ok skater but a fierce competitor and filled a necessary role on her squad.

“As long as you play fair consider this a good place to channel your frustration through physicality.”

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/billie-jean-king-op-ed-serena-williams_us_5b9595b1e4b0162f472e68ef

”Ramos crossed the line. He made himself part of the match,” King wrote in a passionate op-ed for The Washington Post, published Sunday. “He involved himself in the end result. An umpire’s job is to keep control of the match, and he let it get out of control.”

She went on to argue that Williams ― despite her many wins ― is still treated differently than male athletes are.

“Did Ramos treat Williams differently than male players have been treated?” King wrote. “I think he did. Women are treated differently in most arenas of life. This is especially true for women of color. And what played out on the court yesterday happens far too often.”
 


Hey, it’s only her opinion. And it’s about tennis. And it’s about that particular match.

Not saying “I’m right!”

Not saying your wrong. I’m still sticking to my perspective... and I haven’t made any insinuations about your intelligence or sincerity.

Tell that to Mary Carillo. Or Martina Navratilova.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2018/09/10/serena-williams-was-out-of-line-say-martina-navratilova-and-mary-carillo/?utm_term=.88636902dbd7

Carillo, a former professional player who has gone on to a successful career as a sportscaster, defended Ramos’s reputation, saying he “has been doing big matches for decades” and is “very, very respected” in the tennis community. Noting that she had called the women’s final for the Tennis Channel with former U.S. Open winner and world No. 1 Lindsay Davenport, she said that, after Williams earned a point penalty for smashing her racket, Davenport told their audience that the next infraction would cost Williams a game.

“If you follow tennis at all, you know those rules. They are inviolate,” Carillo said.

Guess you missed that part of the Post.


But of course, Larry, you've been watching Serena for "twenty years", and yet, during that time, you've failed to pick up the rules of the game.

It's just Mary Carillo's opinion.



No insuation regarding your confirmation biases at work, of course.

Keep on keepin' on.

Of course, it is all opinion


https://www.newyorker.com/news/sporting-scene/naomi-osakas-us-open-victory-against-serena-williams-nearly-ruined-by-a-call-is-redeemed-by-empathy-and-grace


A racquet smash followed—a second violation, and so a point penalty by the books. And then came the fuming. She wanted an apology. She couldn’t let it go. Williams is a player who can use anger as competitive fuel when she believes that she has been done wrong. It is true that Ramos could not do what she was demanding, which was to reverse his warning: warnings can’t be reversed, and, anyway, it was a violation, whether Williams read the signal or not. It is also true that Williams has been held to different standards throughout her career, criticized for her brashness, her body, her competitive drive—for being, when it comes down to it, unafraid to claim her own success.

Williams has repeatedly been subjected to patently racist and sexist criticism. Just this month, the French Open announced a dress code, and officials held up Williams’s tight catsuit as an example of an outfit that had gone “too far.” No matter that she says she wore the compression outfit for therapeutic purposes (she has a history of blood clots), or that it actually offered more coverage than your typical skimpy tennis dress. “One must respect the game and the place,” the president of the French Tennis Federation, Bernard Giudicelli, said. The implication was clear: Williams was disrespectful, and needed to be put in her place.

. There you go again.

What isn't opinion is she violated rules she understood. What isn't opinion is her reaction was over the top and disingenuous to her opponent and the tournament officials.

Tournament officials for all the open championshis are free to decide the decorum for their events.

That's not racist or mysogynist. That's protecting the brand.

[kiidcarter8]

I guess Bart has knowledge of the GWU model used to assess Puerto Rico.

I'd like to hear more.

[Yankguy1]

What isn't opinion is her reaction was over the top and disingenuous to her opponent and the tournament officials.

Actually, this is opinion.  And you should probably look up what "disingenuous" means. 

[LarryBnDC]

This guy in Texas, shot in his own house by a cop, had the search warrant for his home published. He had weed and a grinder in his apartment... so?

I mean, SO? Dude was in his own house, not in a car, not on a park bench, he was in his house?

So why is he being criminalized? Because this way it can be established he got himself shot, and sets up why the cop was justified in shooting a guy in his own house.

But...

I should wait until I have more facts to work with so I can establish this guy got his fool ass shot... in his own house.

I think you have this ALLLLL wrong.

Naturally... perfectly normal to go to someone else's house and shoot them because you they were intruding... in their own house.

[kiidcarter8]

https://publichealth.gwu.edu/sites/default/files/downloads/projects/PRstudy/Acertainment%20of%20the%20Estimated%20Excess%20Mortality%20from%20Hurricane%20Maria%20in%20Puerto%20Rico.pdf

[LarryBnDC]

That's a good story,  Larry.   I am uncertain how it relates,  as an analogy,  to sportsmanship in tennis.

Larry just likes talking about Larry.

Beats talking about you.

Gee, Larry, you got your ass kicked on the tennis tantrum, and by several posters here.

Don't pout.

Just sdmit that you didn't see the match, you didn't know the facts, but you charged in ready for the another black-denied-justice moment, when that was never the situation.

Better pick your battles more wisely, and check your righteous indignation at the door.

No.

My righteous indignation is how I got be sixty... I never sit back and be quiet.  My argument was not just about the tennis match this weekend.

I still think there is a different standard in the world whether in sports or life in general. If you guys don’t get that am I not surprised.

Knicks

Now you are changing the argument. There are lots of double standards in the world (how many bubbles are in a bar of soap?)  No one argued that there aren't double standards.

But in this case, Team Serena admitted to signalling. She then escalated a lost point to a lost game, through her own actions.

She owns her behavior.

Perhaps your inability to get that others "get it" is shrouded by your righteous indignation.

Now there are lots of causes and reasons to wave your righteous indignation, but Serena trying to game a game, is probably not the best time to do it.

Tell that to Billie Jean King, but then again what would she know? Especially with the mighty wisdom you imparted to your girl.

My girl was an ice hockey goon in high school. Was an ok skater but a fierce competitor and filled a necessary role on her squad.

“As long as you play fair consider this a good place to channel your frustration through physicality.”

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/billie-jean-king-op-ed-serena-williams_us_5b9595b1e4b0162f472e68ef

”Ramos crossed the line. He made himself part of the match,” King wrote in a passionate op-ed for The Washington Post, published Sunday. “He involved himself in the end result. An umpire’s job is to keep control of the match, and he let it get out of control.”

She went on to argue that Williams ― despite her many wins ― is still treated differently than male athletes are.

“Did Ramos treat Williams differently than male players have been treated?” King wrote. “I think he did. Women are treated differently in most arenas of life. This is especially true for women of color. And what played out on the court yesterday happens far too often.”
 


Hey, it’s only her opinion. And it’s about tennis. And it’s about that particular match.

Not saying “I’m right!”

Not saying your wrong. I’m still sticking to my perspective... and I haven’t made any insinuations about your intelligence or sincerity.

Tell that to Mary Carillo. Or Martina Navratilova.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2018/09/10/serena-williams-was-out-of-line-say-martina-navratilova-and-mary-carillo/?utm_term=.88636902dbd7

Carillo, a former professional player who has gone on to a successful career as a sportscaster, defended Ramos’s reputation, saying he “has been doing big matches for decades” and is “very, very respected” in the tennis community. Noting that she had called the women’s final for the Tennis Channel with former U.S. Open winner and world No. 1 Lindsay Davenport, she said that, after Williams earned a point penalty for smashing her racket, Davenport told their audience that the next infraction would cost Williams a game.

“If you follow tennis at all, you know those rules. They are inviolate,” Carillo said.

Guess you missed that part of the Post.


But of course, Larry, you've been watching Serena for "twenty years", and yet, during that time, you've failed to pick up the rules of the game.

It's just Mary Carillo's opinion.



No insuation regarding your confirmation biases at work, of course.

Keep on keepin' on.

Of course, it is all opinion


https://www.newyorker.com/news/sporting-scene/naomi-osakas-us-open-victory-against-serena-williams-nearly-ruined-by-a-call-is-redeemed-by-empathy-and-grace


A racquet smash followed—a second violation, and so a point penalty by the books. And then came the fuming. She wanted an apology. She couldn’t let it go. Williams is a player who can use anger as competitive fuel when she believes that she has been done wrong. It is true that Ramos could not do what she was demanding, which was to reverse his warning: warnings can’t be reversed, and, anyway, it was a violation, whether Williams read the signal or not. It is also true that Williams has been held to different standards throughout her career, criticized for her brashness, her body, her competitive drive—for being, when it comes down to it, unafraid to claim her own success.

Williams has repeatedly been subjected to patently racist and sexist criticism. Just this month, the French Open announced a dress code, and officials held up Williams’s tight catsuit as an example of an outfit that had gone “too far.” No matter that she says she wore the compression outfit for therapeutic purposes (she has a history of blood clots), or that it actually offered more coverage than your typical skimpy tennis dress. “One must respect the game and the place,” the president of the French Tennis Federation, Bernard Giudicelli, said. The implication was clear: Williams was disrespectful, and needed to be put in her place.

. There you go again.

What isn't opinion is she violated rules she understood. What isn't opinion is her reaction was over the top and disingenuous to her opponent and the tournament officials.

Tournament officials for all the open championshis are free to decide the decorum for their events.

That's not racist or mysogynist. That's protecting the brand.

All of what you just wrote is opinion...

You call all this negative attention and controversy over the Chair ump rousting the face of Women’s tennis, merely because he could, “protecting the brand?”

You really don’t see the contradiction, do you? Of course not.

[kiidcarter8]

This guy in Texas, shot in his own house by a cop, had the search warrant for his home published. He had weed and a grinder in his apartment... so?

I mean, SO? Dude was in his own house, not in a car, not on a park bench, he was in his house?

So why is he being criminalized? Because this way it can be established he got himself shot, and sets up why the cop was justified in shooting a guy in his own house.

But...

I should wait until I have more facts to work with so I can establish this guy got his fool ass shot... in his own house.

I think you have this ALLLLL wrong.

Naturally... perfectly normal to go to someone else's house and shoot them because you they were intruding... in their own house.

Didnt say that

Compose yourself now.

[kiidcarter8]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/07/us/cincinnati-shooting-wounded-12-times/

Dont hear too much now of this shooting.  Story seems to have gone away

If the three dead were black citizens......

[Yankguy1]

"The blacks" get all the breaks!

[NeedsAdjustments]

If the three dead were black citizens......

let me finish that for you

...who were shot by law enforcement that suspected them of committing a crime based on no information other than the color of their skin, then yes, we would be hearing more about that shooting. 

As we should, because it would speak to in institutional failure.

And you would be trolling white nationalist websites and reposting scary photos of the victims from social media, digging up past traffic tickets, and arguing that any white person would have had the sense to put up their hands faster.

Yes, kiidcarter8, we know how this would have gone. 

[NeedsAdjustments]

"This was done by the Democrats in order to make me look as bad as possible when I was successfully raising Billions of Dollars to help rebuild Puerto Rico. If a person died for any reason, like old age, just add them onto the list. Bad politics. I love Puerto Rico!" he wrote.



Discuss.

Donald Trump is a congenital liar and general scumbag.

Good discussion.

[whiskeypriest]

"This was done by the Democrats in order to make me look as bad as possible when I was successfully raising Billions of Dollars to help rebuild Puerto Rico. If a person died for any reason, like old age, just add them onto the list. Bad politics. I love Puerto Rico!" he wrote.



Discuss.

Our President is a solipsistic, mendacious piece of shit.

[kiidcarter8]

Well, no -

he just has to see the distinction between "died in the hurricane" and "died because of the hurricane".

And Puerto Rico politicians have to admit that the numbers they give are an estimate.  They are leading the public to believe they have near 3000 particular names that can be attributed as hurricane related deaths.  And likely dont even know the model GWU used.