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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #2640 on: September 16, 2018, 11:21:07 AM »

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/14/myrtle-beach-poorest-evacuating-costly-hurricane-florence

What poverty means when confronted with a storm like Florence.   I wonder what political party the landlord mentioned in the article belongs to.  He boards up just the windows on his own unit,  and then leaves the rest of the complex to fend for itself.   I mean,  wow.   

Regarding black bootstrap tugging... Josh points out some aspects that that nice (Utley quoted,  prev.  page)  pep talk won't fix.   I would add that gangs,  terrible as they are,  are a response to urban government and law enforcement which has caused a lack of trust in marginalized communities in said governance and policing.   Ethnic groups subject to bigotry and abuse,  including Italians,  Irish,  Latinos,  have all formed gang subcultures when they fear a more powerful ruling class.  We are all part of the solution,  if there is to be one.

As a Christian, and being involved with Youth For Christ, and the Burbank YMCA, etc, I was taught that I am third. God is first, and everyone else but me is second, and I am third. And even on the farm as a kid, you feed the animals before you eat, and you learn to take care of a living thing outside of yourself. The same with managing a dog kennel, etc. Many people are selfish, and then selfishness attracts depression, and you have tons of people committing suicide, etc. The answer is to get outside of yourself, and take care and help a living thing outside of yourself. Then as we all help each other then we will all be happier, and things improve.

And like here at my apartment complex, I would help the neighbors all board up, and then I would board mine up last. That is just the way I was raised.

(And I am sort of scared on my apartment complex, we have new owners and they are raising the rent. That is how the housing crisis happened, people are buying the housing and they are raising rent, and people are all into flipping houses, they want to buy low and sell high, and the poor people are ending up homeless. And we also have gentrification in Anaheim, everyone wants to live in Anaheim, and so they can charge high rents. Please add me to your prayers if you pray. I need for a lot of good things to happen.)

On the issue of gangs, and Godfathers, you also have the issue of the immigrants being afraid of the police, and being afraid of ICE, etc. They cannot go to the police, so they go to the Godfather, or whomever. We need to make our immigrants legal so that they are not afraid to call the police and so they can legally work and join unions, etc.

Salute,

Tony V.

Tony,  I send positive energy your way.   And I agree about selfishness, it does cause isolation and depression.  We are social creatures.   I really hope this country generally can find some sanity on affordable housing and rent control.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #2641 on: September 16, 2018, 01:17:30 PM »

Masshole

And every time you use that term, you just prove my point.

Booooooooring.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #2642 on: September 16, 2018, 01:27:33 PM »

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« Reply #2643 on: September 16, 2018, 02:05:33 PM »

Tony

I will indeed pray for you, sir.

But two things about your passage:

Selfishness causes depression?  Really?

And as for the immigrants "afraid to go to the police" - too much made of this.  Someone does you wrong - you say so.

Probably not if you're in the country illegally.

So when you report a crime the first thing they do is see if you are a citizen?

I dont think so.
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« Reply #2644 on: September 16, 2018, 02:13:22 PM »

Masshole

And every time you use that term, you just prove my point.

Booooooooring.

heh

Love that one

Can do without the feud - in general
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« Reply #2645 on: September 16, 2018, 02:23:11 PM »

Tony

I will indeed pray for you, sir.

But two things about your passage:

Selfishness causes depression?  Really?

And as for the immigrants "afraid to go to the police" - too much made of this.  Someone does you wrong - you say so.

Probably not if you're in the country illegally.

So when you report a crime the first thing they do is see if you are a citizen?

I dont think so.

That was the whole point of a sane, non-rabid immigration policy now referred to as a “sanctuary” policy. It explicitly removes that concern.

Considering the people pulled from school, hospital, court, work, etc., to get locked up and deported under the dumb ass zero tolerance policy there is no reason to think you won’t get snatched and sent to a for profit prison used up for slave labor then deported whether you are here legally or no for the simple act of reporting a crime.

It’s a two pronged attack by trump and his craven republican minions to turn American cities back in to war torn hellscapes.

It’s why immoral fucks who wanted Bush to be more like Hitler are so happy to support trump.
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« Reply #2647 on: September 16, 2018, 03:29:30 PM »

Come - We will invest in you here because you will return the investment ten-fold unless our insecurities hamstring our society and we treat you like dicks because listening to idiots like Kid, that’s what we’ve become.
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« Reply #2648 on: September 16, 2018, 03:44:02 PM »

Pure malice...

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2018/09/08/deaf-immigrant-deportation-francis-anwana/1226728002/

Its OK - come - we will pay for you here

We're Americans, with a capital 'A', huh? You know what that means? Do ya? That means that our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country in the world. We are the wretched refuse ...
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« Reply #2649 on: September 16, 2018, 05:46:37 PM »

Meanwhile, in North Carolina's legislative races...

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2018/06/republican-nominee-god-is-a-white-supremacist-jews-come-from-satan/

The state GOP has finally withdrawn their support, but he's on the ballot, having won the nomination.

Why? Because the GOP electorate, as a group, is racist and has no problems with his beliefs.

(No, Red, #notallRepublicans, just more than enough of them.)
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« Reply #2650 on: September 16, 2018, 06:03:17 PM »

Two things are going on at once, here:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/06/house-gops-second-phase-of-tax-reform-aims-to-make-individual-cuts-permanent.html

The new proposals for tax cuts would add roughly $2.3 trillion to the national debt over a decade (beyond the $1.5+ trillion added already).

But at the same time that they are proposing that, they are saying this:
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/07/trump-u-s-cant-afford-veterans-health-care-without-cuts.html

That's $1.6 billion that they are saying is unaffordable.

Yeah, just keep supporting that Trump and his GOP minions.
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« Reply #2651 on: September 16, 2018, 06:21:55 PM »

It's a good thing Republican Party watches the deficit like a hawk. That tax cut will never take place.
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« Reply #2652 on: September 16, 2018, 06:24:57 PM »

Tony

I will indeed pray for you, sir.

But two things about your passage:

Selfishness causes depression?  Really?

And as for the immigrants "afraid to go to the police" - too much made of this.  Someone does you wrong - you say so.

Probably not if you're in the country illegally.

So when you report a crime the first thing they do is see if you are a citizen?

I dont think so.

What they might do is ask you for ID.
They do seem to like to know if reports are genuine.

I would imagine the last thing an illegal alien would do is engage law enforcement of any description.
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« Reply #2653 on: September 16, 2018, 06:36:55 PM »

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/andrew-bolt/lefts-growing-violence-will-not-end-well/news-story/d258db89de1c3f7f335ddd1e9338c398

Left’s growing violence will not end well

Andrew Bolt, Herald Sun
September 16, 2018 5:00pm
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SOMEONE will get killed soon. Someone on the Right will be killed for political reasons.
See, the culture of violence on the Left is growing — and no one on the Left seems even to mind. In Australia it’s already bad enough.

Former Prime Minister Tony Abbott was headbutted in the street, masked protesters attacked me outside a book launch, …..
We’ve also seen the fascist Left use violence to shut down meetings of the Right.
They attacked people trying to get to a speech in Melbourne by Dutch political leader Geert Wilders, or a dinner with Australian Conservatives leader Cory Bernardi.
They also attacked the audiences of gay libertarian Milo Yiannopoulos and Canadian filmmaker Lauren Southern, and this month physically harassed people going to hear former British UKIP leader Nigel Farage in Melbourne.

Last week socialists at Sydney University manhandled students trying to attend a speech by conservative psychologist Bettina Arndt, yet still virtually no MPs speak against this culture of violence.

But it’s even worse in the US, where the Left’s hate speech against President Donald Trump is whipping mobs into a frenzy.

Democrat congresswomen Maxine Waters even urged Leftists to harass Trump officials in the street: “Create a crowd … and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.
It worked, with Republican Senate Majority leader Mitch McConnell confronted in the street by a mob, Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen having protesters picket her home, and a White House adviser having his home address published by protesters.

Where will this mob-incitement lead?
Already in the election campaign, Trump’s supporters were attacked by Leftists, leaving some bleeding.

More seriously, Republican House Majority Whip Steve Scalise was shot and nearly killed by a Bernie Sanders supporter, and this month a Republican candidate in California was attacked by a Democrat supporter, Farzad Vincent Fazeli, who brandished a knife while shouting about Trump.

Meanwhile celebrities dial up the hate, with “comedian” Kathy Griffin posing with Trump’s apparently severed head, actor Robert De Niro saying he wants to punch Trump in the face, actor Johnny Depp suggesting assassination, and singer Madonna talking about blowing up Trump’s White House.

This can’t end well.


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Well there you go.
What's being done about the violent Left?    nothing much it seems.
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« Reply #2654 on: September 16, 2018, 06:43:40 PM »

Tony

I will indeed pray for you, sir.

But two things about your passage:

Selfishness causes depression?  Really?

And as for the immigrants "afraid to go to the police" - too much made of this.  Someone does you wrong - you say so.

Probably not if you're in the country illegally.

So when you report a crime the first thing they do is see if you are a citizen?

I dont think so.

What they might do is ask you for ID.
They do seem to like to know if reports are genuine.

I would imagine the last thing an illegal alien would do is engage law enforcement of any description.

/faints/
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