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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[josh]

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/10/trans-student-barred-shelter-locker-room-mass-shooter-drill/?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=push&utm_campaign=onesignal

Pretty revolting that they would not let the kid shelter.

[facilitatorn]

I understand enough to know that you don't know what you're talking about. "Due Process". Brilliant!

Here is your problem.
Kavanaugh was accused of something bad that may have occurred a long time ago.
There is nothing to back up the accuser’s charges.
No scene, no witnesses, no record of anything.
In fact one alleged witness , a longtime friend of the accuser, says she has no recollection of the claimed event and has never met Kavanaugh.
In short, the charge has no merit.
By our system of justice, codified in several parts of our constitution, the accused is considered innocent until proven guilty. He cannot be deprived of life, liberty, or the pursuit of happiness with out due process of law.
So find another reason to reject him with 51 votes.
Of course we all know the democrats did not have those votes so they launched the “ Hail Mary smear campaign” that Susan Collins effectively called a merciful halt to this afternoon.
So the dems are still a vote short.
To make matters worse their mockery of due process now threatens their chances in the mid-terms. .

So your argument remains that a rejection of Kavanaugh based on the allegations would constitute a denial of due process. Fair enough. My argument remains you don't know what the hell you're talking about. A seat on the Supreme Court is simply not "life, liberty or property" the deprivation of which the Constitutional requirement of due process attaches. Again Kavanaugh could be rejected for any reason or none at all. Now you might want to argue "fairness". Fine. But "due process?" Nice try.

Damn. That post makes me cry for crackers everywhere trying to get their testicles back. Never saw someone so dumb so thoroughly owned.

[LarryBnDC]

https://exjournalistsunite.wordpress.com/2018/10/06/too-ugly-to-sexually-assault/

[LarryBnDC]

Well it's nice to know that after denying that it had such a duty two years ago you now acknowledge Congress' "constitutional duty to provide Advice and Consent".

The GOP believes, “By any means necessary.”

You got the wrong party. Feinstein’s Folly backfired.
The Blue Wave now looks like a tide at its ebb.

Enjoy the sugar high...

[REDSTATEWARD]

Do you highlight your little Federalist Society pocket Constitution in green or yellow, Red?I'll ask you again. Is it your argument that a no vote by the Senate would have constituted a denial of due process? Let's see if you can answer a simple yes or no question.

Of course it would.
Under the standard of due process there is no crime that can be corroborated.
But as you certainly noticed the democrats moved away from the “ crime” to talk about his love of beer and then his “ unseemly” temperament in defending himself.
But they drew the ill- advised last second Hail Mary play by throwing due process in the gutter and no matter how they explain it now they have greatly diminished their mid term election outlook.
You have no clue what due process is.

It is you who is confused.
Due process in this instance is the process of the Senate to provide  its Constitutional duty to Advise and Consent on SCOTUS nominations. That process allows the Judiciary Committee to investigate nominees and then report its recommendations to the full Senate. In the course of that investigation the ranking democrat on the committee, Diane Feinstein, received a letter from Dr. Ford alleging a sexual assault of her by the nominee when both were teenagers. Dr. Ford asked that her information be kept secret. Senator Feinstein did nothing until the Committee was getting close to voting. ( She could have notified the Committee who could have conducted a secret investigation) As the process was winding down she sent the letter to the FBI and leaked its contents to the Washington Post.
She got the intended result: short circuiting the Senate process. Once the full committee learned of the letter it asked Dr. Ford and Justice Kavanaugh to come back for more testimony.
Which they did which led to a she said/he said appearance that in essence changed no votes . So the committee sent the nomination to the full Senate.
Howls by the democrats now centered on Kavanaugh’s teen age drinking and his temperament in defending himself. So at the suggestion of the GOP another delay was authorized and a request made to the FBI to investigate. Which turned up nothing to corroborate the original charge by Dr. Ford.
So here we are today waiting for the Senate to vote.
But it is clear that the democrats sole strategy is to disrupt due process to either defeat Kavanaugh or delay his appointment.

[barton]

Good grief can you fix the quote boxes?   

And FFS man up and admit you misused the term due process.   Two members who are attorneys explain your error to you and you just entrench further in it.

As for the Dems strategy to defeat Kavanaugh's appointment, that sorta begs the question dunnit?  If you started trying to figure out human motivations, you would greatly expand your knowledge of the political process.   

[facilitatorn]

If you started trying to figure out human motivations, you would greatly expand your knowledge of the political process.   

Red is a lizard and a carrion eater. He can’t figure out human motivations. That would be like expecting Bambi to figure things out from a woman’s perspective.

We share this forum with some severely broken toys.

[REDSTATEWARD]

Good grief can you fix the quote boxes?   

And FFS man up and admit you misused the term due process.   Two members who are attorneys explain your error to you and you just entrench further in it.

As for the Dems strategy to defeat Kavanaugh's appointment, that sorta begs the question dunnit?  If you started trying to figure out human motivations, you would greatly expand your knowledge of the political process.

To answer your questions.
No
&
I didn’t.
The last part of your post was incomplete.

[facilitatorn]

Add documented witness tampering to the many Kavanaugh felonies revealed despite of the “hide the ugly baby” nature of this conformation process.

It will be nice to have this shitheel our of public life evenif he gets to spend a year or so on the Supreme Court.

Now is the time to start crucifying the bastard.

[FlyingVProd]

They are saying that the economy is doing the best it has done since 1969, and it is all baloney.

The rich are getting richer, but we have record numbers of homeless people. For those homeless people the economy sucks.

Until we can get the homeless people into housing, fed, cleaned up, and then back to work, you cannot say that the economy is great. The economy will be great when the economy is creating new jobs for the homeless people, and when the economy is creating jobs for the new immigrants. The USA used to have so many jobs that people could come from all over the world and get a job in the USA.

Of note, all of this talk about an improving economy is causing the interest rates to rise, and the rents are rising, and the bills are all going up, but the wages are not going up, and Social Security income is not rising, for the retired and for the disabled their income is not rising. Rent is going up, but the incomes are not rising. And jobs are not being created for the homeless and for the immigrants.

Salute,

Tony V.

[LarryBnDC]

Add documented witness tampering to the many Kavanaugh felonies revealed despite of the “hide the ugly baby” nature of this conformation process.

It will be nice to have this shitheel our of public life evenif he gets to spend a year or so on the Supreme Court.

Now is the time to start crucifying the bastard.

Fuck that guy. The GOP is willing to give up the Congress as long as they control the Court for a cou0le generations, so we have to take the House and slam the brakes on the Trump Train.
Then run Trump and the GOP Senate out of town on a rail in 2020.

Be ready to resist their next big move, a Reichstag Fire event feign a national emergency.

[bodiddley]

Murkowski was a No based on Kav's performance in front the Senate and the overall issues raised -- temperament, character doubts, etc.
Not based on the sexual assault allegations but how he responded to them. 

ex-Justice Stevens as well.
Said Kav has been a good judge but came across as too partisan and too injudicious.

I think when you're talking a seat at the highest court for the next 2 or 3 decades, if there's a fair amount of doubt of whatever sorts, a new candidate should be chosen.  And that's how the filibuster rule worked.
There have been recent justices who got fewer than 60 votes, but either nobody filibustered or there were 60 votes to proceed to a final vote.   Kav is going to get through with nearly the bare minimum under the new lower standard.

Very disappointed in Collins, and the Dems should make it a priority targeting her seat.

And though the Senate is a close 52-46 - 2 (Independents).
It certainly could be worse, as the Dems picked up 2 or 3 seats in red states after the GOP selected horrible under-qualified Tea party extremists.  Only those self-inflicted GOP losses kept it as close as it is. 

The Dems really did poorly as a party under Obama.
Maybe if they had explained and defended Obamacare instead of getting steamrolled on the issue for years, things might have been different.  But OBama didn't really do much party building, and largely ran outside the traditional structure (not as much as Trump of course).
It's unfortunate that the Dems policy ideas are popular yet they don't know how to turn that into votes and elected representatives.  Leading to the loss of the Supreme Court.

[Hamilton Samuels]

Follow the money. The tax evasion of the Trumps will be exactly what the Dems need most.

[Hamilton Samuels]

Protests in the gallery during the vote.

[Hamilton Samuels]

GOP likes rule. Democratic Party likes to govern.

Those are competing philosophies.

At the moment, we live under the rule of the GOP.

GOD, please, by all means, "bless America".

It sure needs it.