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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #5865 on: November 09, 2018, 12:59:33 PM »

Amazing, state is 50/50 on everything.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #5866 on: November 09, 2018, 01:56:27 PM »

LuthOR. 

From a couple guys who worked for the special prosecutor back in Watergate, in today's NYT...

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In a stunning move on the heels of the midterm election, President Trump has forced the resignation of Attorney General Jeff Sessions and appointed an outspoken critic of the Mueller investigation — Matthew Whitaker — as acting attorney general, shunting Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to the sidelines. This raises the specter of a fearful president attempting to muzzle Special Counsel Robert Mueller or hinder him from revealing whether his 18-month-long grand jury investigation has turned up evidence of criminality implicating Donald Trump or his immediate family.

But a 44-year-old “road map” from the Watergate prosecution shows a potential route for Mr. Mueller to send incriminating evidence directly to Congress. The road map was devised in 1974 by the Watergate special prosecutor, Leon Jaworski, with our assistance. We wrote the road map — actually a report — to be conveyed to Congress; it was called “Report and Recommendation” and served as a guide to a collection of grand jury evidence contained in a single document. That evidence included still-secret presidential tape recordings that had been acquired through grand jury subpoena — but which had been withheld from Congress by President Nixon.

The recent decision by Washington’s Federal District Court chief judge, Beryl Howell, to release the document from the National Archives provides a historic legal precedent that could be a vehicle for Mr. Mueller and the grand jury assisting him to share the fruits of their investigation into possible criminal conduct within the Trump presidential campaign and subsequent administration.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/09/opinion/trump-whitaker-mueller-watergate.html
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #5867 on: November 09, 2018, 02:01:26 PM »

Not-so-good results Tuesday for the Greens

Voters in::

Washington defeated a carbon tax for the second time in 2 years.(56%-44%)

Colorado defeated a proposal to effectively shut down oil and gas exploration in the state(57%-43%)

Arizona defeated aproposal to derive 50% of electricity from renewables by 2030(70%-30%)

Alaska defeated attempts to restrict development around salmon habitats(64%-36%)

Montana said no to new restrictions on hard rock mines(56%-44%)

And Elizabeth Warren’s dream of a Progressive take-over of the democrat party may have suffered a fatal blow on Tuesday. Despite her strong endorsement and campaigning Richard Cordray’ s bid to become Ohio Governor for came up short(as did every democrat in Ohio running for statewide office). In other races in competitive districts Warren’s Progressives went 0 for 9.

I would have to see the specific wording of the AZ legislative bill to really have an opinion on why it was defeated.  Referendum voting has several problems - one of them is the percentage of voters who don't fully understand the wording.


Arizona Proposition 127

A “YES” vote will replace Arizona’s current plan for transitioning nongovernmental electric utilities to renewable energy with a constitutional mandate that, irrespective of cost to consumers, 50% of the retail energy sales of these utilities come from certain types of renewable energy by 2030 (neither pre-1997 hydropower nor any nuclear generation counts for this percentage); the current plan increases use of the same types of renewable energy from 8% this year to 15% in 2025. A “YES” vote also will mandate that these utilities increase their use of distributed renewable energy (energy locally generated and distributed from customers’ premises) to 10% by 2030; will require the new mandates be met by obtaining renewable energy credits, which may be created through renewable energy production or purchased from others who own existing renewable energy credits; and will require the Arizona Corporation Commission to enact implementing regulations.
 
YES
A “NO” vote will preserve the existing rules that govern the required annual percentage of retail sales of renewable energy by nongovernmental electric utilities.



The NO vote was 70%.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #5868 on: November 09, 2018, 02:12:06 PM »

Not-so-good results Tuesday for the Greens

Voters in::

Washington defeated a carbon tax for the second time in 2 years.(56%-44%)

Colorado defeated a proposal to effectively shut down oil and gas exploration in the state(57%-43%)

Arizona defeated aproposal to derive 50% of electricity from renewables by 2030(70%-30%)

Alaska defeated attempts to restrict development around salmon habitats(64%-36%)

Montana said no to new restrictions on hard rock mines(56%-44%)

And Elizabeth Warren’s dream of a Progressive take-over of the democrat party may have suffered a fatal blow on Tuesday. Despite her strong endorsement and campaigning Richard Cordray’ s bid to become Ohio Governor for came up short(as did every democrat in Ohio running for statewide office). In other races in competitive districts Warren’s Progressives went 0 for 9.

Americans have now seen the light.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #5869 on: November 09, 2018, 02:21:54 PM »

Not-so-good results Tuesday for the Greens

Voters in::

Washington defeated a carbon tax for the second time in 2 years.(56%-44%)

Colorado defeated a proposal to effectively shut down oil and gas exploration in the state(57%-43%)

Arizona defeated aproposal to derive 50% of electricity from renewables by 2030(70%-30%)

Alaska defeated attempts to restrict development around salmon habitats(64%-36%)

Montana said no to new restrictions on hard rock mines(56%-44%)

And Elizabeth Warren’s dream of a Progressive take-over of the democrat party may have suffered a fatal blow on Tuesday. Despite her strong endorsement and campaigning Richard Cordray’ s bid to become Ohio Governor for came up short(as did every democrat in Ohio running for statewide office). In other races in competitive districts Warren’s Progressives went 0 for 9.

Americans have now seen the light.
Sure have! That is why the Democrats gained 7 governor seats, took control of the House, and had far more people vote for their House and Senatorial candidates than Republicans!

Richard Cordray is a professional candidate who has not won anything since the last time he was.on Jeopardy.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #5870 on: November 09, 2018, 02:25:05 PM »

Finally IS terrorists have seemingly struck in Australia...was only a matter of time.
If only we in Australia had Trump as our leader.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/somali-born-terrorist-who-carried-out-bourke-street-attack-is-the-brother-of-an-isis-sympathiser-whose-bomb-plot-was-foiled/ar-BBPwqOa?li=AAgfYrC&OCID=AVRES000

Somali-born terrorist who carried out Bourke Street attack is the brother of an 'ISIS sympathiser whose bomb plot was foiled'

The brother of the knife-wielding Somali terrorist who stabbed three men, one fatally, in Melbourne's inner-city has been revealed as an 'ISIS sympathiser' who allegedly planned to execute a major terrorist attack.


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Immigration...don't ya just love it.

Stabbed people to death on London bridge...and now knife-wielding terrorists are doing the same thing on Australian soil.
No wonder Americans want to be able to carry guns!
Terrorists have knives and are stabbing innocent people to death on streets in Australia.

Am I allowed to carry a knife?
No.

Am I allowed to carry a gun?
No.

A sitting duck am I...just like the men who were stabbed in this Melbourne attack.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #5871 on: November 09, 2018, 02:27:06 PM »

Not-so-good results Tuesday for the Greens

Voters in::

Washington defeated a carbon tax for the second time in 2 years.(56%-44%)

Colorado defeated a proposal to effectively shut down oil and gas exploration in the state(57%-43%)

Arizona defeated aproposal to derive 50% of electricity from renewables by 2030(70%-30%)

Alaska defeated attempts to restrict development around salmon habitats(64%-36%)

Montana said no to new restrictions on hard rock mines(56%-44%)

And Elizabeth Warren’s dream of a Progressive take-over of the democrat party may have suffered a fatal blow on Tuesday. Despite her strong endorsement and campaigning Richard Cordray’ s bid to become Ohio Governor for came up short(as did every democrat in Ohio running for statewide office).
Wait - Sherrod Brown lost? Somehow I think that would have been bigger news.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #5872 on: November 09, 2018, 02:28:55 PM »

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LOL
Then compare the vote for Florida Governor to the vote reinstituting voting rights to former felons.

Ballot measure:  64.5 % YES

Governor:  dead heat, each meandering around 49%

Republican voters have more integrity and interest in democracy than Republican politicians once they are in power?  I'm sure there are multiple interpretations.  What's yours?
My guess is that 30 or so percent of Florida voters are independent and could well account for the difference. They split on Governor but voted for voting restoration. To which Espn will reply with either LOL or Uh huh. Sure. But not with actual argument.
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DeSantis was labeled as racist by the Gillum campaign from the start.
Looking at the two vote totals, though, the Felon Amendment could not have gathered 65% per cent in favor without a healthy faction of DeSantis voters.
Just my observation that voters can filter out campaign noise and do so more often than they are given credit for.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #5873 on: November 09, 2018, 02:31:16 PM »

Not-so-good results Tuesday for the Greens

Voters in::

Washington defeated a carbon tax for the second time in 2 years.(56%-44%)

Colorado defeated a proposal to effectively shut down oil and gas exploration in the state(57%-43%)

Arizona defeated aproposal to derive 50% of electricity from renewables by 2030(70%-30%)

Alaska defeated attempts to restrict development around salmon habitats(64%-36%)

Montana said no to new restrictions on hard rock mines(56%-44%)

And Elizabeth Warren’s dream of a Progressive take-over of the democrat party may have suffered a fatal blow on Tuesday. Despite her strong endorsement and campaigning Richard Cordray’ s bid to become Ohio Governor for came up short(as did every democrat in Ohio running for statewide office).
Wait - Sherrod Brown lost? Somehow I think that would have been bigger news.
Brown was re-elected to the US Senate, a federal office, not a state office.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #5874 on: November 09, 2018, 02:31:54 PM »

Wish I had Trump was my leader;

Yesterday (January 27), President Donald Trump signed an executive order banning immigration from seven countries, all of which are predominantly Muslim. The countries in question are Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #5875 on: November 09, 2018, 02:33:49 PM »

Not-so-good results Tuesday for the Greens

Voters in::

Washington defeated a carbon tax for the second time in 2 years.(56%-44%)

Colorado defeated a proposal to effectively shut down oil and gas exploration in the state(57%-43%)

Arizona defeated aproposal to derive 50% of electricity from renewables by 2030(70%-30%)

Alaska defeated attempts to restrict development around salmon habitats(64%-36%)

Montana said no to new restrictions on hard rock mines(56%-44%)

And Elizabeth Warren’s dream of a Progressive take-over of the democrat party may have suffered a fatal blow on Tuesday. Despite her strong endorsement and campaigning Richard Cordray’ s bid to become Ohio Governor for came up short(as did every democrat in Ohio running for statewide office). In other races in competitive districts Warren’s Progressives went 0 for 9.

Americans have now seen the light.
Sure have! That is why the Democrats gained 7 governor seats, took control of the House, and had far more people vote for their House and Senatorial candidates than Republicans!

Richard Cordray is a professional candidate who has not won anything since the last time he was.on Jeopardy.
Elizabeth Warren shares your pain. 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #5876 on: November 09, 2018, 02:43:11 PM »

Wish I had Trump was my leader;

So do i.
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« Reply #5877 on: November 09, 2018, 02:54:44 PM »

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« Reply #5878 on: November 09, 2018, 02:55:16 PM »

Hi,

Can someone please explain to me how the Governor of a state (FL) can, after 8(?) years in office can turn around and blame anyone but himself for an effed up voting system?

It was the year 2000 that pointed out the problems in FL. This is 2018. It takes very little grasp of math to understand that they have had 18 years to fix the problems. Scott was the ...

There is no reasonable explanation for this! This event should disqualify Scott for any roll north of toilet paper!

IMHO.

Scott is a posturing prevaricating piece of political poop? 

Republicans only fix voting system problems that allow too many Democrats to vote. 

Best news is that 1.4 million ex-felons have had their franchise restored down there.  Given their demographic, we could be seeing the last of the close races in Florida.
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Then compare the vote for Florida Governor to the vote reinstituting voting rights to former felons.

Trying to determine intent by percentage is problematic (especially in FL).

Why? Because the raw vote totals may be vastly different. There have been, what, 9+- votes cast for Senator/Governor in FL? split 50/50 (ish) but if the Floridians forgot to fill in the ballot for referenda there could conceivably be a 100% vote for the item even though only 25% of the people voted for it. (Hypothetically)

TBT, I don't know and I don't care. It has been 18 YEARS! You have been governor for 8 years, you didn't fix the election system (if anything, your admin worked to make the process more opaque, and problematic). Have you no shame? Are you not at all embarrassed?

Let's not forget that the R's kept Senator Franken from taking his seat for a number of MONTHS after the Senate reconvened in 2009.There is no justification to rush through the Florida recounts.   

It sure would be cool to see the Florida elections overturned. Because more people voted for the D than the R.
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« Reply #5879 on: November 09, 2018, 02:57:24 PM »

Wish I had Trump was my leader;

Yesterday (January 27), President Donald Trump signed an executive order banning immigration from seven countries, all of which are predominantly Muslim. The countries in question are Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen.

He’ll be in Paris soon. Go tell him that Australia has a ton of big boobed blonds and that he can rape as many as he likes as often as he likes or tell him that it’s a long standing tradition in Australia for tired old men to marry their daughters.

Either way, he’ll dump the US in a heart beat (after all, he’s losing money here), and run right over to you.
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