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kiidcarter8

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #5880 on: November 09, 2018, 03:09:34 PM »

Wait - Snipes is a SISTER?

Keeps gettin more interestin.
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« Reply #5881 on: November 09, 2018, 03:30:29 PM »

LuthOR. 

From a couple guys who worked for the special prosecutor back in Watergate, in today's NYT...

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In a stunning move on the heels of the midterm election, President Trump has forced the resignation of Attorney General Jeff Sessions and appointed an outspoken critic of the Mueller investigation — Matthew Whitaker — as acting attorney general, shunting Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to the sidelines. This raises the specter of a fearful president attempting to muzzle Special Counsel Robert Mueller or hinder him from revealing whether his 18-month-long grand jury investigation has turned up evidence of criminality implicating Donald Trump or his immediate family.

But a 44-year-old “road map” from the Watergate prosecution shows a potential route for Mr. Mueller to send incriminating evidence directly to Congress. The road map was devised in 1974 by the Watergate special prosecutor, Leon Jaworski, with our assistance. We wrote the road map — actually a report — to be conveyed to Congress; it was called “Report and Recommendation” and served as a guide to a collection of grand jury evidence contained in a single document. That evidence included still-secret presidential tape recordings that had been acquired through grand jury subpoena — but which had been withheld from Congress by President Nixon.

The recent decision by Washington’s Federal District Court chief judge, Beryl Howell, to release the document from the National Archives provides a historic legal precedent that could be a vehicle for Mr. Mueller and the grand jury assisting him to share the fruits of their investigation into possible criminal conduct within the Trump presidential campaign and subsequent administration.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/09/opinion/trump-whitaker-mueller-watergate.html

Bart

re Luthor

I'm reasonably sure I knew that at some point in my life, in a simpler time, when a bald-Russian dictator represented the greatest threat to this country, rather than a creamsicle-coiffed authoritarian wannabe from Queens.

those were the good old days.

Comics and commies.
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LarryBnDC usetab Knicks12

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #5882 on: November 09, 2018, 03:48:33 PM »

Such a SUCKER for corporate interests...


Not-so-good results Tuesday for the Greens

Voters in::

Washington defeated a carbon tax for the second time in 2 years.(56%-44%)

Colorado defeated a proposal to effectively shut down oil and gas exploration in the state(57%-43%)

Arizona defeated aproposal to derive 50% of electricity from renewables by 2030(70%-30%)

Alaska defeated attempts to restrict development around salmon habitats(64%-36%)

Montana said no to new restrictions on hard rock mines(56%-44%)

And Elizabeth Warren’s dream of a Progressive take-over of the democrat party may have suffered a fatal blow on Tuesday. Despite her strong endorsement and campaigning Richard Cordray’ s bid to become Ohio Governor for came up short(as did every democrat in Ohio running for statewide office). In other races in competitive districts Warren’s Progressives went 0 for 9.

I would have to see the specific wording of the AZ legislative bill to really have an opinion on why it was defeated.  Referendum voting has several problems - one of them is the percentage of voters who don't fully understand the wording.


Arizona Proposition 127

A “YES” vote will replace Arizona’s current plan for transitioning nongovernmental electric utilities to renewable energy with a constitutional mandate that, irrespective of cost to consumers, 50% of the retail energy sales of these utilities come from certain types of renewable energy by 2030 (neither pre-1997 hydropower nor any nuclear generation counts for this percentage); the current plan increases use of the same types of renewable energy from 8% this year to 15% in 2025. A “YES” vote also will mandate that these utilities increase their use of distributed renewable energy (energy locally generated and distributed from customers’ premises) to 10% by 2030; will require the new mandates be met by obtaining renewable energy credits, which may be created through renewable energy production or purchased from others who own existing renewable energy credits; and will require the Arizona Corporation Commission to enact implementing regulations.
 
YES
A “NO” vote will preserve the existing rules that govern the required annual percentage of retail sales of renewable energy by nongovernmental electric utilities.



The NO vote was 70%.


Attorney Jim Barton, who represents Clean Energy for a Healthy Arizona, wrote to Roysden concerning the changes Aug. 30, and took issue with adding the language to say utilities would need to meet the requirement "irrespective of costs."

"It strongly suggests that there will be a cost to customers," Barton complained to Roysden. "Adding this language falsely creates an impression that the law does something it does not."

APS' parent company uses the phrase "irrespective of costs" in advertisements against the measure.


Supporters of the measure note that the costs of solar and wind energy have been falling, even with batteries backing them up so people get power when the sun sets and winds are calm.



https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/arizona/2018/09/18/arizona-elections-proposition-127-ballot-language-called-unfair/1335893002/
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #5883 on: November 09, 2018, 04:20:24 PM »

Judging by their actions, it’s pretty clear republicans in Florida think Gillum and Nelson have more then the necessary votes and have won their elections.

Its also crystal clear that Rod Rosenstein is the current acting Attorney General.

Whittaker looks like the thug who usually winds up hanging from a web outside a police station when Spider-Man gets through with him.
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« Reply #5884 on: November 09, 2018, 04:31:21 PM »

Judging by their actions, it’s pretty clear republicans in Florida think Gillum and Nelson have more then the necessary votes and have won their elections.

Its also crystal clear that Rod Rosenstein is the current acting Attorney General.

Whittaker looks like the thug who usually winds up hanging from a web outside a police station when Spider-Man gets through with him.

Or Wilson Fisk (Kingpin) from Daredevil.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #5885 on: November 09, 2018, 04:41:11 PM »

Who ever he looks like, his TBI is evident. Maybe trump can get him a spot in a convalescent home.
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« Reply #5886 on: November 09, 2018, 04:50:23 PM »

Historically Presidents with low approval ratings lose an average of 37-40 House Seats and two Senators.
The votes are still being counted but it appears the dems will gain far less in the House( but take control) while the GOP will PICK UP 4 seats in the Senate.

Dems will hit that 37 number in the House, against gerrymandering stacked against them.

And may end up losing only two seats (possibly only one depending on FL recount) after going up against the worst Senate map for any party in 60 years.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #5887 on: November 09, 2018, 04:59:25 PM »

DeSantis was labeled as racist by the Gillum campaign from the start.

DeSantis used racist language against Gillum from the start.  Day one, in fact:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/29/us/politics/desantis-monkey-up-gillum.html

So yeah, the label sticks.

Looking at the two vote totals, though, the Felon Amendment could not have gathered 65% per cent in favor without a healthy faction of DeSantis voters.
Just my observation that voters can filter out campaign noise and do so more often than they are given credit for.

Its a nice observation.  But it has zero to do with Bart's post, or the issue at hand in FL right now.

Scott claiming voter fraud with no evidence (and with his own FDLE disagreeing)  and Trump parroting it is shameful.  Either you are a patriot and agree, or you are party-over-country.

Don't need to explain, REDSTATEWARD.  We know what you are.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #5888 on: November 09, 2018, 05:05:14 PM »

"The racists call him racist" hurt Gillum.
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« Reply #5889 on: November 09, 2018, 05:13:28 PM »

"The racists call him racist" hurt Gillum.

Yeah, because nothing hurts racists more than being called for their racism...
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #5890 on: November 09, 2018, 05:21:28 PM »

"The racists call him racist" hurt Gillum.

I have no idea if this is true.  Neither do you.

I do know that what Gillum said was true.  And needed to be said.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #5892 on: November 09, 2018, 05:39:19 PM »

DeSantis was labeled as racist by the Gillum campaign from the start.

DeSantis used racist language against Gillum from the start.  Day one, in fact:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/29/us/politics/desantis-monkey-up-gillum.html

 
Did you miss high school grammar classes when they taught the difference between nouns and verbs?


Looking at the two vote totals, though, the Felon Amendment could not have gathered 65% per cent in favor without a healthy faction of DeSantis voters.
Just my observation that voters can filter out campaign noise and do so more often than they are given credit for.


Its a nice observation.  But it has zero to do with Bart's post, or the issue at hand in FL right now.
Chalk up reading comprehension as another high school class you missed.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #5893 on: November 09, 2018, 05:49:47 PM »

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"They want to turn us into California!"

Yep.  I expect a lot of voters were missing the information I provided in the rest of my post.  Political hacks like to encourage short-term thinking.
Several people ran against turning Arizona into California. I think if the do turn us into California, can we.get Big Sur?
Maybe. But right now Malibu has a fire sale.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #5894 on: November 09, 2018, 05:50:08 PM »

DeSantis was labeled as racist by the Gillum campaign from the start.

DeSantis used racist language against Gillum from the start.  Day one, in fact:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/29/us/politics/desantis-monkey-up-gillum.html

 
Did you miss high school grammar classes when they taught the difference between nouns and verbs?

LOL.  It isn't racist unless DeSantis actually calls Gillum a "monkey?" LOL.

DeSantis broke out the dog whistle the day after he won his nomination and your summation is "DeSantis was labeled as racist by the Gillum campaign from the start."  As usual with you and yours, the problem is always with those calling out the racism, not the racists. 

Funny thing is you think you are getting away with something here.  You aren't.  Everyone can see what you are. 
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