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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[REDSTATEWARD]

I suppose I should note that the song's two parts are not gender specific - they are labeled "Wolf" and "Mouse" z and the second time it is sung in Neptune's Daughter - the song won an Oscar for that movie - Betty Garrett sung the Wolf Part and Red Skelton was the Mouse. The song has not aged well.

Maybe we can judge how well a song has aged by its covers:



1951   Louis Armstrong and Velma Middleton   
1955   Eddie Fisher and June Hutton   Eddie Fisher
1957   Sammy Davis Jr. and Carmen McRae   
1959   Jack Marshall   
1959   Dean Martin   
1961   Ray Charles and Betty Carter
1961   Sacha Distel   
1964   Al Hirt and Ann-Margret   
1964   Steve Lawrence and Eydie Gorme   
1966   Henry Mancini   
1966   Jimmy Smith and Wes Montgomery   
1971   Ted Heath Orchestra   
1972   Rod McKuen and Liesbeth List      
1990   Barry Manilow and K. T. Oslin
1991   Bette Midler and James Caan   
1992   Robert Palmer and Carnie Wilson   
1994   Nancy LaMott and Michael Feinstein   
1995   Lou Rawls and Dianne Reeves   
1996   Vanessa Williams and Bobby Caldwell   
1998   Ann Hampton Callaway and Kenny Rankin   
1999   Tom Jones and Cerys Matthews
2000   Tom Wopat and Antonia Bennett   
2001   Suzy Bogguss and Delbert McClinton   
2000   Holly Cole   Baby
2002   Brian Setzer and Ann-Margret
2002   Lee Ann Womack and Harry Connick Jr.   
2003   Zooey Deschanel and Leon Redbone   
2004   Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey   ReJoyce
2004   Rod Stewart and Dolly Parton   
2004   James Taylor and Natalie Cole   
2008   Anne Murray and Michael Bublé   
2009   Lady Antebellum
2009   Willie Nelson and Norah Jones   
2009   Rick Dempsey and Deanna Bogart
2010   Chris Colfer and Darren Criss   
2011   Haley Reinhart and Casey Abrams      
2011   She & Him   A Very She & Him Christmas   
2012   Colbie Caillat and Gavin DeGraw   Christmas in the Sand
2012   Rita Coolidge   
2012   Cee Lo Green and Christina Aguilera   
2012   Lyle Lovett and Kat Edmonson   
2013   Kelly Clarkson and Ronnie Dunn   
2013   Jimmy Fallon and Cecily Strong   Saturday Night Live   
2013   Lady Gaga and Joseph Gordon-Levitt
2013   Martina McBride and Dean Martin
2014   Connie Britton and Will Chase   
2014   Seth MacFarlane and Sara Bareilles   
2014   Idina Menzel and Michael Bublé   
2014   Darius Rucker and Sheryl Crow   
2014   Virginia to Vegas and Alyssa Reid      
2016   Garth Brooks and Trisha Yearwood   
2016   Jimmy Buffett and Nadirah Shakoor   
2016   Brett Eldredge and Meghan Trainor
2016   John Farnham and Olivia Newton-John   
2016   Amy Grant and Vince Gill
2017   Fantasia and CeeLo Green   
2017   Kelley Jakle and Shelley Regner   P
2018   Aaron Watson   An Aaron Watson Family Christmas   

This is only a partial list and does not  include the slew of recordings in 1949(the year it won the Oscar) with maybe the most popular version of all-time by Johnny Mercer and Margaret Whiting.

[barton]

Well, we certainly discussed the crap out of that topic! 

[oilcan]

Please ban Rudolph the RNR.  Promotes bullying and exclusion from group activities.  They wouldn't let poor Rudolph join in any reindeer games.  I think it's worth a little overreach to expunge this pernicious behavior from our society!

Meanwhile, Jennifer Rubin targets WH nepotism...

In the course of the investigation, the committee may want to call public hearings and subpoena all relevant documents regarding Trump’s financial interests and benefits relating to the House of Saud, Kushner’s business interests relating to Saudi Arabia and why, despite public evidence that he was being manipulated by foreign governments, he continued to play such a critical role in foreign policy. (“Officials in at least four countries have privately discussed ways they can manipulate Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and senior adviser, by taking advantage of his complex business arrangements, financial difficulties and lack of foreign policy experience, according to current and former U.S. officials familiar with intelligence reports on the matter,” The Post reported in February. “Among those nations discussing ways to influence Kushner to their advantage were the United Arab Emirates, China, Israel and Mexico, the current and former officials said.”)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2018/12/10/jared-did-what/?utm_term=.72f37621e50c

Like many situations in the administration, this is a terrible one. 

[whiskeypriest]

I suppose I should note that the song's two parts are not gender specific - they are labeled "Wolf" and "Mouse" z and the second time it is sung in Neptune's Daughter - the song won an Oscar for that movie - Betty Garrett sung the Wolf Part and Red Skelton was the Mouse. The song has not aged well.

Maybe we can judge how well a song has aged by its covers:



1951   Louis Armstrong and Velma Middleton   
1955   Eddie Fisher and June Hutton   Eddie Fisher
1957   Sammy Davis Jr. and Carmen McRae   
1959   Jack Marshall   
1959   Dean Martin   
1961   Ray Charles and Betty Carter
1961   Sacha Distel   
1964   Al Hirt and Ann-Margret   
1964   Steve Lawrence and Eydie Gorme   
1966   Henry Mancini   
1966   Jimmy Smith and Wes Montgomery   
1971   Ted Heath Orchestra   
1972   Rod McKuen and Liesbeth List      
1990   Barry Manilow and K. T. Oslin
1991   Bette Midler and James Caan   
1992   Robert Palmer and Carnie Wilson   
1994   Nancy LaMott and Michael Feinstein   
1995   Lou Rawls and Dianne Reeves   
1996   Vanessa Williams and Bobby Caldwell   
1998   Ann Hampton Callaway and Kenny Rankin   
1999   Tom Jones and Cerys Matthews
2000   Tom Wopat and Antonia Bennett   
2001   Suzy Bogguss and Delbert McClinton   
2000   Holly Cole   Baby
2002   Brian Setzer and Ann-Margret
2002   Lee Ann Womack and Harry Connick Jr.   
2003   Zooey Deschanel and Leon Redbone   
2004   Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey   ReJoyce
2004   Rod Stewart and Dolly Parton   
2004   James Taylor and Natalie Cole   
2008   Anne Murray and Michael Bublé   
2009   Lady Antebellum
2009   Willie Nelson and Norah Jones   
2009   Rick Dempsey and Deanna Bogart
2010   Chris Colfer and Darren Criss   
2011   Haley Reinhart and Casey Abrams      
2011   She & Him   A Very She & Him Christmas   
2012   Colbie Caillat and Gavin DeGraw   Christmas in the Sand
2012   Rita Coolidge   
2012   Cee Lo Green and Christina Aguilera   
2012   Lyle Lovett and Kat Edmonson   
2013   Kelly Clarkson and Ronnie Dunn   
2013   Jimmy Fallon and Cecily Strong   Saturday Night Live   
2013   Lady Gaga and Joseph Gordon-Levitt
2013   Martina McBride and Dean Martin
2014   Connie Britton and Will Chase   
2014   Seth MacFarlane and Sara Bareilles   
2014   Idina Menzel and Michael Bublé   
2014   Darius Rucker and Sheryl Crow   
2014   Virginia to Vegas and Alyssa Reid      
2016   Garth Brooks and Trisha Yearwood   
2016   Jimmy Buffett and Nadirah Shakoor   
2016   Brett Eldredge and Meghan Trainor
2016   John Farnham and Olivia Newton-John   
2016   Amy Grant and Vince Gill
2017   Fantasia and CeeLo Green   
2017   Kelley Jakle and Shelley Regner   P
2018   Aaron Watson   An Aaron Watson Family Christmas   

This is only a partial list and does not  include the slew of recordings in 1949(the year it won the Oscar) with maybe the most popular version of all-time by Johnny Mercer and Margaret Whiting.

2018     Bill Cosby and Andrea Constand

[oilcan]

Zooey Deschanel could crack Leon Redbone like a dry stick. 

[kiiidcarter8]

So a 74 years old song( Oscar winner to boot) Baby It’s Cold Outside now somehow  promotes “ date rape” to some in the @# metoo crowd?
In the PC world running amok is the only way to run.

I’m ok with people “running amok” when the intention is to combat sexism, sexual harassment, and assault.  However that effort may overreach, I can live with that.

I cannot live with politicians whose running amok entails criminal actions that are only part of their efforts to weaken our Democracy so that they may be elected with the purpose of further self-enrichment and corrupt alignment of what was once a beacon for good in the world with the likes of Russia and Saudi-Arabia.  That is the kind of running amok that concerns me.  Partly, but not only because, the leader of that effort is himself a confessed sexual assaulter.

I can understand why, for purely partisan reasons, your priorities are different.

BONK

Trump is a patriot.  He acts in direct line with what he feels is best for AMERICA

[Yankguy1]

Heh.

[LarryBnDC]

So a 74 years old song( Oscar winner to boot) Baby It’s Cold Outside now somehow  promotes “ date rape” to some in the @# metoo crowd?
In the PC world running amok is the only way to run.

I’m ok with people “running amok” when the intention is to combat sexism, sexual harassment, and assault.  However that effort may overreach, I can live with that.

I cannot live with politicians whose running amok entails criminal actions that are only part of their efforts to weaken our Democracy so that they may be elected with the purpose of further self-enrichment and corrupt alignment of what was once a beacon for good in the world with the likes of Russia and Saudi-Arabia.  That is the kind of running amok that concerns me.  Partly, but not only because, the leader of that effort is himself a confessed sexual assaulter.

I can understand why, for purely partisan reasons, your priorities are different.

BONK

Trump is a patriot.  He acts in direct line with what he feels is best for AMERICA

He acts in direct line with what he feels is best for TRUMP.

Sucker...

[NeedsAdjustments]

So a 74 years old song( Oscar winner to boot) Baby It’s Cold Outside now somehow  promotes “ date rape” to some in the @# metoo crowd?
In the PC world running amok is the only way to run.

I’m ok with people “running amok” when the intention is to combat sexism, sexual harassment, and assault.  However that effort may overreach, I can live with that.

I cannot live with politicians whose running amok entails criminal actions that are only part of their efforts to weaken our Democracy so that they may be elected with the purpose of further self-enrichment and corrupt alignment of what was once a beacon for good in the world with the likes of Russia and Saudi-Arabia.  That is the kind of running amok that concerns me.  Partly, but not only because, the leader of that effort is himself a confessed sexual assaulter.

I can understand why, for purely partisan reasons, your priorities are different.

BONK

Trump is a patriot.  He acts in direct line with what he feels is best for AMERICA

I think as it was with your proclamation that “the Russia thing is over,” your “Trump is a patriot” is going to have a very short shelf-life before being disproven.

...as if it hasn’t been already.

[kiiidcarter8]

Heh.

It's true

It matters not whether you agree with him on how to make the nation great.

[whiskeypriest]

So a 74 years old song( Oscar winner to boot) Baby It’s Cold Outside now somehow  promotes “ date rape” to some in the @# metoo crowd?
In the PC world running amok is the only way to run.

I’m ok with people “running amok” when the intention is to combat sexism, sexual harassment, and assault.  However that effort may overreach, I can live with that.

I cannot live with politicians whose running amok entails criminal actions that are only part of their efforts to weaken our Democracy so that they may be elected with the purpose of further self-enrichment and corrupt alignment of what was once a beacon for good in the world with the likes of Russia and Saudi-Arabia.  That is the kind of running amok that concerns me.  Partly, but not only because, the leader of that effort is himself a confessed sexual assaulter.

I can understand why, for purely partisan reasons, your priorities are different.

BONK

Trump is a patriot.  He acts in direct line with what he feels is best for AMERICA

He acts in direct line with what he feels is best for TRUMP.

Sucker...

Do not rule out the possibility Trump considers those the same thing.

[whiskeypriest]

Heh.

It's true

It matters not whether you agree with him on how to make the nation great.

Trump is personally responsible for keeping Grape Flavor Aid on store shelves.

[whiskeypriest]

Zooey Deschanel could crack Leon Redbone like a dry stick.

She is the she in She and Him, isn't she? She must like the song.

Need to find my Leon Rebone Christmas album. Only version of Frosty the Snowman I can listen to without wanting to self harm.

[facilitatorn]

As a cup bearer, Kiid can’t tell if he is the victim or the victimizer here, but as long as there is some kind of sex crime going on here he’s all on board.

If you are an American Kiid, it is you who are getting fucked. Take less opiates and you might be able to feel it.

[NeedsAdjustments]

Heh.

It's true

It matters not whether you agree with him on how to make the nation great.

You think you can safely hide behind this “agree to disagree” positioning but there are so, so many examples of actions/behavior that don’t even fit.

By no means an exhaustive list…

We can agree that bashing war heroes will not make the nation great, but the war hero criticized Trump.
We can disagree on how or whether or not to address the deficit, but I think we can agree that we are not great when the criteria for doing so is based on the blow-up happening only after Trump leaves office: https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-on-coming-debt-crisis-i-wont-be-here-when-it-blows-up
We should be able to agree that we are not a great nation when tax policy is determined by what is best for Trump’s businesses.
We can agree that we are not great when we allow a US resident journalist to be brutally murdered without response but Trump’s company is making millions from the Saudis, and Kushner is the Prince’s buddy, so…
We can agree that bashing the media as an “Enemy to the American People” is obviously dangerous and damaging to our democracy and in no way makes us great,  except that Trump and his supporters don’t like to be criticized.
We can agree that bowing and kowtowing to murderous oligarchs (currently preparing to invade Ukraine) is not making the nation great, but Trump is trying to build a hotel in Moscow and hey, these guys helped get him elected.

It isn’t what is best for the country.  It’s what is best for Trump.  Be it his political or financial fortunes.  You and your party bending and distorting all logic in order to take a position that agrees with those fortunes is not agreeing to disagree about what is best for America.   This is not on the Trump detractors.   Its you distorting reality because in the end you like what he is doing on Immigration and Judges.