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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[whiskeypriest]

It's cute that Bambu thinks that Trump actually gives a damn about the wall being built.

Well, Pelosi thinks he wants the wall for roughly the same reason older men buy sports cars.

[barton]

Our wall will be the largest and hardest wall ever erected.   
 
Then athletic young men will climb up and down it,  all day.   Mmm.

[Hamilton Samuels]

White House chief of staff. Best candidate: https://www.google.com/search?q=jerry+springer&client=ms-android-verizon&prmd=vni&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiv9IySxZrfAhWSMd8KHSo6D8MQ_AUoA3oECAwQAw&biw=412&bih=691#imgrc=3Ktvpxopu8wT6M

[NeedsAdjustments]

It's cute that Bambu thinks that Trump actually gives a damn about the wall being built.

He has spent his adult life building (shit) things and putting his name on them.  That, and the fact that I think the xenophobic impulses behind the wall are coming from a real place within him, make me think that it may be one of the few policy items he actually cares about.

Simple question remains; if your proposal is the right thing to do, then why do you need to lie to justify it?

https://www.mediaite.com/online/trumps-dhs-cant-back-up-his-lie-about-catching-10-terrorists-at-border/

[barton]

Jared and Ivanka make big money from Opportunity Zone program they pushed...


https://apnews.com/37b731bd1cc443fa953b112b7afe879a

While the Opportunity Zone program mostly targets census tracts of high poverty and unemployment, it also allows “contiguous” tracts that might not be low-income, but are close enough to deprived communities to be eligible.

Critics say that could allow developers to cash in by targeting zones already teeming with investment and gentrified neighborhoods. Amazon’s recent decision to locate a new headquarters in the bustling New York City neighborhood of Long Island City, for example, drew rebukes following reports it was in an Opportunity Zone.

A study by the Urban Institute in Washington found that nearly a third of the more than 8,700 Opportunity Zones nationwide — and all 13 of the ones containing Kushner properties — were showing signs of heavy investment and gentrification, based on such factors as rent increases and the percentage of college-educated residents....     

[Hamilton Samuels]

Jared and Ivanka make big money from Opportunity Zone program they pushed...


https://apnews.com/37b731bd1cc443fa953b112b7afe879a

While the Opportunity Zone program mostly targets census tracts of high poverty and unemployment, it also allows “contiguous” tracts that might not be low-income, but are close enough to deprived communities to be eligible.

Critics say that could allow developers to cash in by targeting zones already teeming with investment and gentrified neighborhoods. Amazon’s recent decision to locate a new headquarters in the bustling New York City neighborhood of Long Island City, for example, drew rebukes following reports it was in an Opportunity Zone.

A study by the Urban Institute in Washington found that nearly a third of the more than 8,700 Opportunity Zones nationwide — and all 13 of the ones containing Kushner properties — were showing signs of heavy investment and gentrification, based on such factors as rent increases and the percentage of college-educated residents....     

I'm not a genius, but it seems when people are willing to invest in a certain area of a city that this benefits that area in ways that create more economic opportunity. That said, however, the economic opportunities can only be seized by those who have the education and means to do so. I don't see "gentrification" as a bad thing, but rather it so often a word that is used to keep neighborhoods entrenched in a failure to thrive mode, or kept from transitioning to improved economic activity.

In Philadelphia, there have been numerous neighborhoods that have turned around and now benefit from the shops, restaurants, bars, and other opportunities that emerged through gentrification. Areas like Fishtown, Northern Liberties, and of late, Brewerytown, have turned from impoverished regions of no hope to places where people wish to live and work.

That people are displaced by such changes is a force that has always existed in the USA.

Always.

And if the cities are attracting a more educated populace, then the value of the properties in the area will naturally increase. The potential for a long term benefits to a given city is greater.

No one wanted to live in Jersey City or Hoboken in the 1970's. That's not the case, now. Is that really such a terrible thing?



 

[NeedsAdjustments]

Jared and Ivanka make big money from Opportunity Zone program they pushed...


https://apnews.com/37b731bd1cc443fa953b112b7afe879a

While the Opportunity Zone program mostly targets census tracts of high poverty and unemployment, it also allows “contiguous” tracts that might not be low-income, but are close enough to deprived communities to be eligible.

Critics say that could allow developers to cash in by targeting zones already teeming with investment and gentrified neighborhoods. Amazon’s recent decision to locate a new headquarters in the bustling New York City neighborhood of Long Island City, for example, drew rebukes following reports it was in an Opportunity Zone.

A study by the Urban Institute in Washington found that nearly a third of the more than 8,700 Opportunity Zones nationwide — and all 13 of the ones containing Kushner properties — were showing signs of heavy investment and gentrification, based on such factors as rent increases and the percentage of college-educated residents....     

I'm not a genius, but it seems when people are willing to invest in a certain area of a city that this benefits that area in ways that create more economic opportunity. That said, however, the economic opportunities can only be seized by those who have the education and means to do so. I don't see "gentrification" as a bad thing, but rather it so often a word that is used to keep neighborhoods entrenched in a failure to thrive mode, or kept from transitioning to improved economic activity.

In Philadelphia, there have been numerous neighborhoods that have turned around and now benefit from the shops, restaurants, bars, and other opportunities that emerged through gentrification. Areas like Fishtown, Northern Liberties, and of late, Brewerytown, have turned from impoverished regions of no hope to places where people wish to live and work.

That people are displaced by such changes is a force that has always existed in the USA.

Always.

And if the cities are attracting a more educated populace, then the value of the properties in the area will naturally increase. The potential for a long term benefits to a given city is greater.

No one wanted to live in Jersey City or Hoboken in the 1970's. That's not the case, now. Is that really such a terrible thing?

Opportunity Zones are a tax based incentive program to develop projects in low-income areas that otherwise would not be profitable for them.

So providing tax incentives in places where a development would already be profitable and a project would happen anyway is taking taxpayer money and adding it to developer profits with the public enjoying no discernible benefit in increased economic activity.

[LarryBnDC]

36 months for Cohen...
 

Pussy payoffs are the least of Trump’s problems... #RUSSIA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj1FifK3bbg

[Driver125]

Sarah Huckabee Sanders Wants To Be Remembered For Being ‘Transparent And Honest’

My God.....she's as delusional as her boss.

[NeedsAdjustments]

With all of his law-and-order talk, I think Trump doesn't understand the concept of laws and how law enforcement officials should enforce them.  It isn't only that he feels he should be immune, but that the relationship should be political/transactional:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/12/politics/huawei-executive-donald-trump/index.html

[Hamilton Samuels]

Jared and Ivanka make big money from Opportunity Zone program they pushed...


https://apnews.com/37b731bd1cc443fa953b112b7afe879a

While the Opportunity Zone program mostly targets census tracts of high poverty and unemployment, it also allows “contiguous” tracts that might not be low-income, but are close enough to deprived communities to be eligible.

Critics say that could allow developers to cash in by targeting zones already teeming with investment and gentrified neighborhoods. Amazon’s recent decision to locate a new headquarters in the bustling New York City neighborhood of Long Island City, for example, drew rebukes following reports it was in an Opportunity Zone.

A study by the Urban Institute in Washington found that nearly a third of the more than 8,700 Opportunity Zones nationwide — and all 13 of the ones containing Kushner properties — were showing signs of heavy investment and gentrification, based on such factors as rent increases and the percentage of college-educated residents....     

I'm not a genius, but it seems when people are willing to invest in a certain area of a city that this benefits that area in ways that create more economic opportunity. That said, however, the economic opportunities can only be seized by those who have the education and means to do so. I don't see "gentrification" as a bad thing, but rather it so often a word that is used to keep neighborhoods entrenched in a failure to thrive mode, or kept from transitioning to improved economic activity.

In Philadelphia, there have been numerous neighborhoods that have turned around and now benefit from the shops, restaurants, bars, and other opportunities that emerged through gentrification. Areas like Fishtown, Northern Liberties, and of late, Brewerytown, have turned from impoverished regions of no hope to places where people wish to live and work.

That people are displaced by such changes is a force that has always existed in the USA.

Always.

And if the cities are attracting a more educated populace, then the value of the properties in the area will naturally increase. The potential for a long term benefits to a given city is greater.

No one wanted to live in Jersey City or Hoboken in the 1970's. That's not the case, now. Is that really such a terrible thing?

Opportunity Zones are a tax based incentive program to develop projects in low-income areas that otherwise would not be profitable for them.

So providing tax incentives in places where a development would already be profitable and a project would happen anyway is taking taxpayer money and adding it to developer profits with the public enjoying no discernible benefit in increased economic activity.

So,  you are NOT pro-growth in a community, unless it is a low-income area?

[NeedsAdjustments]

So,  you are NOT pro-growth in a community, unless it is a low-income area?

My response to your post was a statement of facts, not my opinion.  The tax incentives in question are not meant to target neighborhoods where no incentive for development is required. 

[Hamilton Samuels]

So,  you are NOT pro-growth in a community, unless it is a low-income area?

My response to your post was a statement of facts, not my opinion.  The tax incentives in question are not meant to target neighborhoods where no incentive for development is required.

That's not answering my question. My post was about using "gentrification" to argue putting limits on growth in a neighborhood.

I'll rephrase. Are you pro-growth, and for pro-growth incentives in a community, only if it is a low-income area?

[NeedsAdjustments]

That's not answering my question. My post was about using "gentrification" to argue putting limits on growth in a neighborhood.

That was what your post was about, yes.  Which is why I responded with the facts that should make it clear that this isn't germane to a discussion re: the Opportunity Zones tax incentives.

In part but not only because applying those incentives in areas where they were intended would speed up gentrification in those neighborhoods, not limit it.

And I did not answer your question because it similarly had zero relationship to anything I wrote.

[Hamilton Samuels]

That's not answering my question. My post was about using "gentrification" to argue putting limits on growth in a neighborhood.

That was what your post was about, yes.  Which is why I responded with the facts that should make it clear that this isn't germane to a discussion re: the Opportunity Zones tax incentives.

In part but not only because applying those incentives in areas where they were intended would speed up gentrification in those neighborhoods, not limit it.

 

I see.

You oppose funding economic development, unless it's in the right neighborhood.

Still, it's good to know that gentrification doesn't harm a neighborhood, as many tend to believe. And since you like "facts".

...a study from NYU’s Furman Center suggests that residents of public housing in wealthier and gentrifying neighborhoods make more money, live with less violence, and have better educational options for their children, despite also facing some challenges. Second, a study from the Philadelphia Federal Reserve Bank finds that there has been much less displacement of existing residents from gentrifying neighborhoods than is commonly feared—and that those who do leave aren’t necessarily more likely to move to lower-income neighborhoods. And finally, a Columbia University study on gentrification in London also failed to find evidence of widespread departures in neighborhoods with rising average incomes.

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/10/in-defense-of-gentrification/413425/