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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

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Benghazi!!!  Clinton Foundation!!!

Lock Her Up!

Drip, drip, drip...

Drip, drip?  Are you kidding?  The flood waters are already up to Trump's knees, and the storm hasn't really even started yet:

Federal prosecutors in Manhattan are investigating whether President Trump’s 2017 inaugural committee misspent some of the record $107 million it raised from donations, people familiar with the matter said.

The criminal probe by the Manhattan U.S. attorney’s office, which is in its early stages, also is examining whether some of the committee’s top donors gave money in exchange for access to the incoming Trump administration, policy concessions or to influence official administration positions, some of the people said.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-inauguration-spending-under-criminal-investigation-by-federal-prosecutors-11544736455?mod=hp_lead_pos1

Drain the Swamp!!

[facilitatorn]

Exposing and bringing down a big chunk of the right wing kleptocracy in this country that props up the thoroughly corrupt GOP is a good step forward in draining the swamp. Everything that touches trump gets brought down and exposed. The republicans will be as glad to have brought him on board as any Atlantic City casino.

[LarryBnDC]

Benghazi!!!  Clinton Foundation!!!

Lock Her Up!

Drip, drip, drip...

Drip, drip?  Are you kidding?  The flood waters are already up to Trump's knees, and the storm hasn't really even started yet:

Federal prosecutors in Manhattan are investigating whether President Trump’s 2017 inaugural committee misspent some of the record $107 million it raised from donations, people familiar with the matter said.

The criminal probe by the Manhattan U.S. attorney’s office, which is in its early stages, also is examining whether some of the committee’s top donors gave money in exchange for access to the incoming Trump administration, policy concessions or to influence official administration positions, some of the people said.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-inauguration-spending-under-criminal-investigation-by-federal-prosecutors-11544736455?mod=hp_lead_pos1

Drain the Swamp!!

I was taunting Red by using one of his former “go to” phrases concerning HRC.

[facilitatorn]

There was a golden window where the typical republican grifter really believed Individual 1 was a winner and that they were going to stay in power a long time, call it the pre-Charlottesville era. During the period from the election to about then, office holders, party officials, and their staffs were shamelessly promiscuous with shady operators with deep pockets who profit off doing the United States and its citizenry malicious and egregious harm. Now all that murky mucky business is coming to light while in general and particular it remains a huge crime.

This is shaping up to be a special kind of year for republicans, exactly the kind they deserve.

[josh]

Hillary thew a cool $ 1 billion or so, (much of it donations to Clinton Foundation to help children)

You are a liar Red. And that is a bald faced, bold faced lie. There is no evidence of any financial intermingling between the CF and Hillary's campaign.  That is a lie, pure and simple.

Donations to the Foundation are now at a trickle. Quid without quo, you know, will do that.

A trickle!

"Contributions plunged from $62,912,331 in 2016 to $26,566,825 in 2017, recently released federal tax filings show."
NY Post

LOL

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Marco Rubio thinks the current tax law, which he helped pass just last year, is contributing to an "unstable and low paying" work life.

https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1073237086545809410

I totally agree.

[REDSTATEWARD]

Why can't you pay hush money to porn stars, waitresses, male flower sellers on the street, or anyone else?
'Consenting adults'...unless there's extortion involved?

...if you use your own money.

Did Trump use his own money?

Trump likely could have gotten away with paying the hush money by reporting it.  Which defeats the purpose of hush money.  He probably shouldn't have cheated on his wife.

The only candidate ever charged with campaign finance violations over hush money was John Edwards and the trial ended in acquittal and was roundly criticized by the media as a waste of time. The furor over Trump has no legal basis but is purely political.

Of course both the Enquirer and Cohen have admitted the two things the government could not prove.against Edwards: that the hush money was paid for political purposes and that Trump was.aware of and directed the activity specifically for political purposes. But don't let the idea that individual cases stand or fall on their own facts trouble you.

The legal basis of the Edwards charges: that Hush money paid for campaign purposes is subject to campaign finance regulations - was not the reason the government must. Case went to trial, and to a jury, which deadlocked on all but one claim. It was the facts that resulted in Edwards's acquittal,  or the idea that hush money paid in connection to a campaign was not a campaign contribution.

LOL

It was the facts that resulted in Edwards's acquittal,  or the idea
that hush money paid in connection to a campaign was not a campaign contribution.

[josh]

[whiskeypriest]

Why can't you pay hush money to porn stars, waitresses, male flower sellers on the street, or anyone else?
'Consenting adults'...unless there's extortion involved?

...if you use your own money.

Did Trump use his own money?

Trump likely could have gotten away with paying the hush money by reporting it.  Which defeats the purpose of hush money.  He probably shouldn't have cheated on his wife.

The only candidate ever charged with campaign finance violations over hush money was John Edwards and the trial ended in acquittal and was roundly criticized by the media as a waste of time. The furor over Trump has no legal basis but is purely political.

Of course both the Enquirer and Cohen have admitted the two things the government could not prove.against Edwards: that the hush money was paid for political purposes and that Trump was.aware of and directed the activity specifically for political purposes. But don't let the idea that individual cases stand or fall on their own facts trouble you.

The legal basis of the Edwards charges: that Hush money paid for campaign purposes is subject to campaign finance regulations - was not the reason the government must. Case went to trial, and to a jury, which deadlocked on all but one claim. It was the facts that resulted in Edwards's acquittal,  or the idea that hush money paid in connection to a campaign was not a campaign contribution.

LOL

It was the facts that resulted in Edwards's acquittal,  or the idea
that hush money paid in connection to a campaign was not a campaign contribution.

Case went to a jury, genius. Do you understand what.that means?

An acquittal on the facts does not mean campaign linked hush payments are not illegal.any more than being acquitted of bank robbery means bank robbery is not illegal.

[REDSTATEWARD]

Why can't you pay hush money to porn stars, waitresses, male flower sellers on the street, or anyone else?
'Consenting adults'...unless there's extortion involved?

...if you use your own money.

Did Trump use his own money?

Trump likely could have gotten away with paying the hush money by reporting it.  Which defeats the purpose of hush money.  He probably shouldn't have cheated on his wife.

The only candidate ever charged with campaign finance violations over hush money was John Edwards and the trial ended in acquittal and was roundly criticized by the media as a waste of time. The furor over Trump has no legal basis but is purely political.

Of course both the Enquirer and Cohen have admitted the two things the government could not prove.against Edwards: that the hush money was paid for political purposes and that Trump was.aware of and directed the activity specifically for political purposes. But don't let the idea that individual cases stand or fall on their own facts trouble you.

The legal basis of the Edwards charges: that Hush money paid for campaign purposes is subject to campaign finance regulations - was not the reason the government must. Case went to trial, and to a jury, which deadlocked on all but one claim. It was the facts that resulted in Edwards's acquittal,  or the idea that hush money paid in connection to a campaign was not a campaign contribution.

LOL

It was the facts that resulted in Edwards's acquittal,  or the idea
that hush money paid in connection to a campaign was not a campaign contribution.

Case went to a jury, genius. Do you understand what.that means?

An acquittal on the facts does not mean campaign linked hush payments are not illegal.any more than being acquitted of bank robbery means bank robbery is not illegal

LOL.
Don’t ever give up that Justice of The Peace Shingle ..you may go btoke.

[facilitatorn]

What are you btoking, Red? Careful. In your backwater, whatever it is is probably illegal.

I don’t seem to remember hearing Edwards on tape directing the payment and coverup from the middle of his campaign, as we all have for Individual 1.

Maybe Edwards didn’t have the Aderol problem clouding his judgement.

Edwards would make a far better president than Individual 1, but so would Sam Kinison and I think he’s dead.

Mike Pence might make a better president than Individual 1.

As he demonstrated on TV, he’s also dead, but since he’s been thoroughly corrupted by foreign adversaries Mike is no longer eligible to fill the post. 

[whiskeypriest]

Why can't you pay hush money to porn stars, waitresses, male flower sellers on the street, or anyone else?
'Consenting adults'...unless there's extortion involved?

...if you use your own money.

Did Trump use his own money?

Trump likely could have gotten away with paying the hush money by reporting it.  Which defeats the purpose of hush money.  He probably shouldn't have cheated on his wife.

The only candidate ever charged with campaign finance violations over hush money was John Edwards and the trial ended in acquittal and was roundly criticized by the media as a waste of time. The furor over Trump has no legal basis but is purely political.

Of course both the Enquirer and Cohen have admitted the two things the government could not prove.against Edwards: that the hush money was paid for political purposes and that Trump was.aware of and directed the activity specifically for political purposes. But don't let the idea that individual cases stand or fall on their own facts trouble you.

The legal basis of the Edwards charges: that Hush money paid for campaign purposes is subject to campaign finance regulations - was not the reason the government must. Case went to trial, and to a jury, which deadlocked on all but one claim. It was the facts that resulted in Edwards's acquittal,  or the idea that hush money paid in connection to a campaign was not a campaign contribution.

LOL

It was the facts that resulted in Edwards's acquittal,  or the idea
that hush money paid in connection to a campaign was not a campaign contribution.

Case went to a jury, genius. Do you understand what.that means?

An acquittal on the facts does not mean campaign linked hush payments are not illegal.any more than being acquitted of bank robbery means bank robbery is not illegal

LOL.
Don’t ever give up that Justice of The Peace Shingle ..you may go btoke.

No response on the merits, as usual. Red version of an admission.

[HamiltonIII]

Why can't you pay hush money to porn stars, waitresses, male flower sellers on the street, or anyone else?
'Consenting adults'...unless there's extortion involved?

...if you use your own money.

Did Trump use his own money?

Trump likely could have gotten away with paying the hush money by reporting it.  Which defeats the purpose of hush money.  He probably shouldn't have cheated on his wife.

The only candidate ever charged with campaign finance violations over hush money was John Edwards and the trial ended in acquittal and was roundly criticized by the media as a waste of time. The furor over Trump has no legal basis but is purely political.

Of course both the Enquirer and Cohen have admitted the two things the government could not prove.against Edwards: that the hush money was paid for political purposes and that Trump was.aware of and directed the activity specifically for political purposes. But don't let the idea that individual cases stand or fall on their own facts trouble you.

The legal basis of the Edwards charges: that Hush money paid for campaign purposes is subject to campaign finance regulations - was not the reason the government must. Case went to trial, and to a jury, which deadlocked on all but one claim. It was the facts that resulted in Edwards's acquittal,  or the idea that hush money paid in connection to a campaign was not a campaign contribution.

LOL

It was the facts that resulted in Edwards's acquittal,  or the idea
that hush money paid in connection to a campaign was not a campaign contribution.

Um...you have that wrong. The charge was ruled as lawful. The evidence failed to convict, based on jury exit polling.

Nice spin, though.

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No response on the merits, as usual. Red version of an admission.

Even the President's own lawyer called it a crime.  Forget that he is Mr. "Broken Windows" arguing that campaign finance violations as part of actions that rob American voters of information they would need to make an informed decision on voting for President of the United States (and that the primary witness in the case is getting 3 years, not months) a small crime is still a crime.

And Rudy would know as well as anyone...sometimes when dealing with a mob boss you get him on tax evasion because its the crime you can prove in court, even though you know he is involved in some much worse stuff.  Of course in Trump's case, this is probably not going to be all they can get.

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The decision to cut television advertising, announced in August 2017, was part of a larger and dramatic cut to outreach efforts for the federal government’s insurance website, which is part of the Affordable Care Act. At the time, administration officials said they had no reason to believe those reductions, including the end of TV advertising, would cause fewer people to sign up.

I'll spoil it for you...they were lying:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-verma-obamacare-advertising-cut_us_5c115061e4b084b082ff8dba