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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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« Reply #8730 on: January 21, 2019, 03:59:13 PM »

Those would be handy, but I think I found enough at IRI/LDEO, a climate data library at Columbia U.

http://iridl.ldeo.columbia.edu/SOURCES/

This place is also good, for historical data for stations in the contiguous 48....though they stop at 2014. 

https://cdiac.ess-dive.lbl.gov/epubs/ndp/ushcn/ushcn.html

Okay.

Figured to check, as I think I have a backdoor to the datasets.

Thanks, that would be cool.   Color me interested. 
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« Reply #8731 on: January 21, 2019, 04:22:37 PM »

Interesting statistics on MLK Day.

In 1958, 48 percent of white Americans polled by Gallup said that “if colored people came to live next door,” they would be likely to move.
By 1978, only 13 percent still said that;
Today the proportion has fallen to 1 percent.

In the  World Values Survey researchers in 59 countries asked residents how they would feel about having neighbors of a different race, . The United States ranked 47th out of 59 countries surveyed, making it more racially accepting than Japan, Mexico, Germany, South Korea, and the Netherlands, among others.

In 1964, a mere 18 percent of white Americans claimed to have a friend who was black. Four decades later, Gallup found that the proportion of interracial friendships had more than quadrupled: 82 percent of whites said they had close nonwhite friends (and 88 percent of blacks reported having close friends who were not black).

Over 90 per cent of Americans approve of interracial marriage. It was just 3 per cent in 1967 according to the Pew Research Center.

By 2015, 17 percent of all US newlyweds — one of every six — had married someone of another color.

And when Barack Obama in 2008 won the White House, it was with a greater share of the white vote than six of the previous seven Democratic nominees.

Racism Over, White People Declare
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« Reply #8732 on: January 21, 2019, 04:24:10 PM »

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/rendezview/tell-your-daughters-all-men-are-bastards/news-story/00a167995586c3c34d647f2e006b975a

That said, however, if I was responsible for raising a girl into an independent young woman I would indeed tell her that all men are bastards.

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Well there you go.
Seems about the message being spread by more than one woman/women's group today.

They must've missed the top Private Eye, who several years ago told my no1 afternoon radio host that "the biggest cheaters in Sydney are women."
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« Reply #8733 on: January 21, 2019, 04:48:38 PM »

Interesting statistics on MLK Day.

In 1958, 48 percent of white Americans polled by Gallup said that “if colored people came to live next door,” they would be likely to move.
By 1978, only 13 percent still said that;
Today the proportion has fallen to 1 percent.

In 1964,
Over 90 per cent of Americans approve of interracial marriage. It was just 3 per cent in 1967 according to the Pew Research Center.
Racism Over, White People Declare

Not very enlightening to make comparisons to the end days of Jim Crow (aka Apartheid America) over 50 years ago.

Be more interesting to see what's changed in the last 25 years or the last 5, though I'm not sure people give honest answers to such questions when they know their position is not acceptable.

Q: Why wasn't MLK day last Monday on his actual birthday, Jan 15?
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« Reply #8734 on: January 21, 2019, 05:13:32 PM »

Interesting statistics on MLK Day.

In 1958, 48 percent of white Americans polled by Gallup said that “if colored people came to live next door,” they would be likely to move.
By 1978, only 13 percent still said that;
Today the proportion has fallen to 1 percent.

In the  World Values Survey researchers in 59 countries asked residents how they would feel about having neighbors of a different race, . The United States ranked 47th out of 59 countries surveyed, making it more racially accepting than Japan, Mexico, Germany, South Korea, and the Netherlands, among others.

In 1964, a mere 18 percent of white Americans claimed to have a friend who was black. Four decades later, Gallup found that the proportion of interracial friendships had more than quadrupled: 82 percent of whites said they had close nonwhite friends (and 88 percent of blacks reported having close friends who were not black).

Over 90 per cent of Americans approve of interracial marriage. It was just 3 per cent in 1967 according to the Pew Research Center.

By 2015, 17 percent of all US newlyweds — one of every six — had married someone of another color.

And when Barack Obama in 2008 won the White House, it was with a greater share of the white vote than six of the previous seven Democratic nominees.

Racism Over, White People Declare
Surveys and polls are of all races and indicate significant changes in attitudes and relationships over the last 60 years. But no one has claimed racism has been completely eradicated.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #8735 on: January 21, 2019, 05:25:42 PM »


Q: Why wasn't MLK day last Monday on his actual birthday, Jan 15?

Probably because Jan 15 was a Tuesday.
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« Reply #8736 on: January 21, 2019, 05:39:54 PM »


Q: Why wasn't MLK day last Monday on his actual birthday, Jan 15?

Probably because Jan 15 was a Tuesday.
The law creating MLK Day made the holiday the 3rd Monday in January, regardless of the date. The 15th is the earliest it can be.
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« Reply #8737 on: January 21, 2019, 07:36:21 PM »

---In his book, What Would Martin Say?, Clarence Jones, one of King’s lawyers and a close advisor, argues that King would vehemently oppose any form of amnesty for undocumented immigrants:

He’d say, ‘If you’re in this country illegally, have you come here in order to protest what you consider an ‘unjust law?’  If you haven’t, then for whatever other reason you’re here, even if it’s to make money for your sick child, which is as good a reason as there is, then you’re just violating the immigration laws of this country and deserve no more consideration from the authorities than does a thief.---

No MLK  would not support Viet Nam and he would not support anchor babies and illegal aliens. Yes he would be for public works spending and secure borders. Deplorable?



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« Reply #8738 on: January 21, 2019, 07:41:22 PM »

---In his book, What Would Martin Say?, Clarence Jones, one of King’s lawyers and a close advisor, argues that King would vehemently oppose any form of amnesty for undocumented immigrants:

He’d say, ‘If you’re in this country illegally, have you come here in order to protest what you consider an ‘unjust law?’  If you haven’t, then for whatever other reason you’re here, even if it’s to make money for your sick child, which is as good a reason as there is, then you’re just violating the immigration laws of this country and deserve no more consideration from the authorities than does a thief.---

No MLK  would not support Viet Nam and he would not support anchor babies and illegal aliens. Yes he would be for public works spending and secure borders. Deplorable?

I am pretty sure that:
a) MLK, Jr., said nothing about anchor babies;
b) He was in favor of birthright citizenship;
c) That the gap between "public works spending and secure borders" and the Trump Wall is vast and your conflation of the two is purely self-serving, rather than based in reason or even belief that he would agree with you on it.

He also supported asylum and the right to seek it.
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« Reply #8739 on: January 21, 2019, 07:49:46 PM »

---In his book, What Would Martin Say?, Clarence Jones, one of King’s lawyers and a close advisor, argues that King would vehemently oppose any form of amnesty for undocumented immigrants:

He’d say, ‘If you’re in this country illegally, have you come here in order to protest what you consider an ‘unjust law?’  If you haven’t, then for whatever other reason you’re here, even if it’s to make money for your sick child, which is as good a reason as there is, then you’re just violating the immigration laws of this country and deserve no more consideration from the authorities than does a thief.---

No MLK  would not support Viet Nam and he would not support anchor babies and illegal aliens. Yes he would be for public works spending and secure borders. Deplorable?

I am pretty sure that:
a) MLK, Jr., said nothing about anchor babies;
b) He was in favor of birthright citizenship;
c) That the gap between "public works spending and secure borders" and the Trump Wall is vast and your conflation of the two is purely self-serving, rather than based in reason or even belief that he would agree with you on it.

He also supported asylum and the right to seek it.

He lived long ago...before 9/11...before "Islamic terrorists", before the Boston bombings, before the floodgates opened, before 'sanctuary cities', before 'country-shopping'.
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« Reply #8740 on: January 21, 2019, 07:54:01 PM »

Interesting statistics on MLK Day.

In 1958, 48 percent of white Americans polled by Gallup said that “if colored people came to live next door,” they would be likely to move.
By 1978, only 13 percent still said that;
Today the proportion has fallen to 1 percent.

In the  World Values Survey researchers in 59 countries asked residents how they would feel about having neighbors of a different race, . The United States ranked 47th out of 59 countries surveyed, making it more racially accepting than Japan, Mexico, Germany, South Korea, and the Netherlands, among others.

In 1964, a mere 18 percent of white Americans claimed to have a friend who was black. Four decades later, Gallup found that the proportion of interracial friendships had more than quadrupled: 82 percent of whites said they had close nonwhite friends (and 88 percent of blacks reported having close friends who were not black).

Over 90 per cent of Americans approve of interracial marriage. It was just 3 per cent in 1967 according to the Pew Research Center.

By 2015, 17 percent of all US newlyweds — one of every six — had married someone of another color.

And when Barack Obama in 2008 won the White House, it was with a greater share of the white vote than six of the previous seven Democratic nominees.

Racism Over, White People Declare

"No racism by our community"- Black People?
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« Reply #8741 on: January 21, 2019, 07:55:37 PM »

---In his book, What Would Martin Say?, Clarence Jones, one of King’s lawyers and a close advisor, argues that King would vehemently oppose any form of amnesty for undocumented immigrants:

He’d say, ‘If you’re in this country illegally, have you come here in order to protest what you consider an ‘unjust law?’  If you haven’t, then for whatever other reason you’re here, even if it’s to make money for your sick child, which is as good a reason as there is, then you’re just violating the immigration laws of this country and deserve no more consideration from the authorities than does a thief.---

No MLK  would not support Viet Nam and he would not support anchor babies and illegal aliens. Yes he would be for public works spending and secure borders. Deplorable?

Sounds like my kinda man.
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« Reply #8742 on: January 21, 2019, 08:33:16 PM »

---In his book, What Would Martin Say?, Clarence Jones, one of King’s lawyers and a close advisor, argues that King would vehemently oppose any form of amnesty for undocumented immigrants:

He’d say, ‘If you’re in this country illegally, have you come here in order to protest what you consider an ‘unjust law?’  If you haven’t, then for whatever other reason you’re here, even if it’s to make money for your sick child, which is as good a reason as there is, then you’re just violating the immigration laws of this country and deserve no more consideration from the authorities than does a thief.---

No MLK  would not support Viet Nam and he would not support anchor babies and illegal aliens. Yes he would be for public works spending and secure borders. Deplorable?

Sounds like my kinda man.

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