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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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kidcarter8

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #8955 on: January 25, 2019, 10:11:00 PM »

The latest from presidential- candidate wannabe Elizabth Warren, trying to keep up with AOC on “let’s keep soaking the rich”.

United States Sen­a­tor Eliz­a­beth War­ren (D-Mass.) to­day un­veiled the Ul­tra-Mil­lion­aire Tax, a bold pro­posal to tax the wealth of the rich­est 0.1% of Amer­i­cans. The leg­is­la­tion, which ap­plies only to house-holds with a net worth of $50 mil­lion or more, is es­ti­mated by lead­ing econ­o­mists to raise $2.75 tril­lion in tax rev­enue over a ten-year pe­riod.

Those “ leading “ economists come from the usual cast of leftist characters but that is irrelevant.
Warren’s proposal is clearly unconstitutional.
Which is irrelevant to her purpose.
Which is to further the democrat strategy of only taxing the rich.

Lol. My prediction not off by much.

Trump campaign colluded with the Russians, as Pelosi makes the great negotiator look like a third grader.

Enter REDSTATEWARD:   AOC!  Warren!  Unconstitutional!

Weak.
But accurate.

No, but so what?

It doesn't matter to you whether it's accurate or not.

You don't want to discuss the travesty that has been the shutdown. You don't want to discuss the various "let them eat cake" idiocies uttered by in-laws and Cabinet members and the President, himself. You don't want to discuss the thing you used to maintain was all bogus - the Mueller investigation.

So, you are reduced to inanities and distractions. Lie, deny, and obfuscate.

Same old you.

Heh

Josh........ always keeping score.

Kiid, always confusing what's going on with a game.

Yeah, people lose in this sort of scenario, Kiiid, but it is not a game.

And my comment, as you fucking well know, has nothing to do with score keeping and everything to do with holding people accountable for their bullshit.

Bro - decisions are made in real time.  In this case for a bit more than a month....... as sails tilted one way or the other.

Today's decision was solid  And we move on. 

Applause for the government workers who saw it through with minimal to no whining.  Raspberries to Atencio (MS) - see story on "chemo vs groceries" - and her ilk for sensationalizing individual stories after digging them up (and likely getting door slammed in her face more than once)
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #8956 on: January 25, 2019, 10:29:42 PM »

A good public works project would be to provide healthy water to people in Michigan.

We have thousands of places in the US with worse water than Flint.

Flint was fine until the Michigan GOP poisoned them in an ill thought out scheme to save a few bucks.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #8957 on: January 25, 2019, 10:44:02 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/25/business/climate-change-davos/index.html

Will the world's economic leaders embrace the notion that climate change is scary and threatening? Or will they just pay lip service to it for the sake of PR?!
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #8958 on: January 25, 2019, 10:46:29 PM »

Today's decision was solid  And we move on. 

Applause for the government workers who saw it through with minimal to no whining.  Raspberries to Atencio (MS) - see story on "chemo vs groceries" - and her ilk for sensationalizing individual stories after digging them up (and likely getting door slammed in her face more than once)

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 I wish people would read or listen to my words on the Border Wall. This was in no way a concession. It was taking care of millions of people who were getting badly hurt by the Shutdown with the understanding that in 21 days, if no deal is done, it’s off to the races!

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7:33 PM - Jan 25, 2019

So, right back to hurting millions of people if he doesn't get what he wants.

"Solid" decision-making.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #8959 on: January 25, 2019, 10:54:22 PM »

A good public works project would be to provide healthy water to people in Michigan.

We have thousands of places in the US with worse water than Flint.

Flint was fine until the Michigan GOP poisoned them in an ill thought out scheme to save a few bucks.

Andy Dillon is a Democrat
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #8960 on: January 25, 2019, 11:06:00 PM »

Today's decision was solid  And we move on. 

Applause for the government workers who saw it through with minimal to no whining.  Raspberries to Atencio (MS) - see story on "chemo vs groceries" - and her ilk for sensationalizing individual stories after digging them up (and likely getting door slammed in her face more than once)

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Donald J. Trump

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 I wish people would read or listen to my words on the Border Wall. This was in no way a concession. It was taking care of millions of people who were getting badly hurt by the Shutdown with the understanding that in 21 days, if no deal is done, it’s off to the races!

90.6K
7:33 PM - Jan 25, 2019

So, right back to hurting millions of people if he doesn't get what he wants.

"Solid" decision-making.

Message to Dems to get to work..  Shouldnt have to be said
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #8962 on: January 25, 2019, 11:18:45 PM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #8963 on: January 25, 2019, 11:20:27 PM »

The latest from presidential- candidate wannabe Elizabth Warren, trying to keep up with AOC on “let’s keep soaking the rich”.

United States Sen­a­tor Eliz­a­beth War­ren (D-Mass.) to­day un­veiled the Ul­tra-Mil­lion­aire Tax, a bold pro­posal to tax the wealth of the rich­est 0.1% of Amer­i­cans. The leg­is­la­tion, which ap­plies only to house-holds with a net worth of $50 mil­lion or more, is es­ti­mated by lead­ing econ­o­mists to raise $2.75 tril­lion in tax rev­enue over a ten-year pe­riod.

Those “ leading “ economists come from the usual cast of leftist characters but that is irrelevant.
Warren’s proposal is clearly unconstitutional.
Which is irrelevant to her purpose.
Which is to further the democrat strategy of only taxing the rich.

How is it unconstitutional?


Read 16th Amend­ment (It fails as an in­come tax) and Ar­ti­cle I, Sec­tion 9, Clause 4 (It fails be­cause it is an un­ap­por­tioned di­rect tax).
The 16th was written precisely because of the gross impracticality of apportionment.  It chucked out apportionment for income tax.  Just because the very rich earn money in a different way doesn't mean that apportionment suddenly becomes sensible again.   Courts have generally rejected apportionment, and it clearly makes no sense when people earn money across multiple state borders.   Think about it.
You need to think about it.
The 16th Amendment allows “ income” from all sources to be taxed. But the government cannot reach into your pocket and tax money you already paid taxes on.

Yeah, like an inheritance tax! Or a property tax!

Oops.
Josh. Ignorance of our laws is something a global moderator ought to be ashamed of.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #8964 on: January 25, 2019, 11:22:01 PM »

Today's decision was solid  And we move on. 

Applause for the government workers who saw it through with minimal to no whining.  Raspberries to Atencio (MS) - see story on "chemo vs groceries" - and her ilk for sensationalizing individual stories after digging them up (and likely getting door slammed in her face more than once)

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Donald J. Trump

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 I wish people would read or listen to my words on the Border Wall. This was in no way a concession. It was taking care of millions of people who were getting badly hurt by the Shutdown with the understanding that in 21 days, if no deal is done, it’s off to the races!

90.6K
7:33 PM - Jan 25, 2019

So, right back to hurting millions of people if he doesn't get what he wants.

"Solid" decision-making.

Message to Dems to get to work..  Shouldnt have to be said
I assume during this time-frame the President will be hard at work, as he always is, securing that Mexican- funding he promised.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #8965 on: January 25, 2019, 11:30:05 PM »

Probably depends on what else is put in his lap

As Bartlett often said....."What's next?"
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #8966 on: January 26, 2019, 12:00:10 AM »

This govt shutdown is ridiculous and a disgrace...people are working and not getting paid.
It should be a catalyst for change.
Oprah show one day informed that 'most' Americans are only a few pay packets away from the street.

Americans lining up for food...like some 3rd world place...baaah!
There oughta be a law!

Politicians...would you feed any of them?


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #8967 on: January 26, 2019, 12:32:47 AM »

Yes no dirty filthy wall. No public works or infrastructure improvements. FDR will be tossing in his grave.

A WALL IS NOT INFRASTRUCTURE.

Is that really so hard to understand?

Have you read Trump's so-called Infrastructure Plan?!

Or are you going to keep beating this bogus drum?

No it is controlled tax and spend in Keynesian terms combined with the multiplier effect, all is good. Yes a really big public works program to improve and secure our borders. The argument against typical elitist emotionalism, dead babies and animals (just in; the wall theoretically could hurt the grey wolf). But what about the American worker, the jobs created, the economy dummies?
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« Reply #8968 on: January 26, 2019, 01:52:44 AM »

The latest from presidential- candidate wannabe Elizabth Warren, trying to keep up with AOC on “let’s keep soaking the rich”.

United States Sen­a­tor Eliz­a­beth War­ren (D-Mass.) to­day un­veiled the Ul­tra-Mil­lion­aire Tax, a bold pro­posal to tax the wealth of the rich­est 0.1% of Amer­i­cans. The leg­is­la­tion, which ap­plies only to house-holds with a net worth of $50 mil­lion or more, is es­ti­mated by lead­ing econ­o­mists to raise $2.75 tril­lion in tax rev­enue over a ten-year pe­riod.

Those “ leading “ economists come from the usual cast of leftist characters but that is irrelevant.
Warren’s proposal is clearly unconstitutional.
Which is irrelevant to her purpose.
Which is to further the democrat strategy of only taxing the rich.

How is it unconstitutional?


Read 16th Amend­ment (It fails as an in­come tax) and Ar­ti­cle I, Sec­tion 9, Clause 4 (It fails be­cause it is an un­ap­por­tioned di­rect tax).
The 16th was written precisely because of the gross impracticality of apportionment.  It chucked out apportionment for income tax.  Just because the very rich earn money in a different way doesn't mean that apportionment suddenly becomes sensible again.   Courts have generally rejected apportionment, and it clearly makes no sense when people earn money across multiple state borders.   Think about it.
You need to think about it.
The 16th Amendment allows “ income” from all sources to be taxed. But the government cannot reach into your pocket and tax money you already paid taxes on.

Yeah, like an inheritance tax! Or a property tax!

Oops.
Josh. Ignorance of our laws is something a global moderator ought to be ashamed of.

You voted for a guy who was committing espionage in plain sight as the main engine of his campaign, but please crack on.
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« Reply #8969 on: January 26, 2019, 02:27:15 AM »

The latest from presidential- candidate wannabe Elizabth Warren, trying to keep up with AOC on “let’s keep soaking the rich”.

United States Sen­a­tor Eliz­a­beth War­ren (D-Mass.) to­day un­veiled the Ul­tra-Mil­lion­aire Tax, a bold pro­posal to tax the wealth of the rich­est 0.1% of Amer­i­cans. The leg­is­la­tion, which ap­plies only to house-holds with a net worth of $50 mil­lion or more, is es­ti­mated by lead­ing econ­o­mists to raise $2.75 tril­lion in tax rev­enue over a ten-year pe­riod.

Those “ leading “ economists come from the usual cast of leftist characters but that is irrelevant.
Warren’s proposal is clearly unconstitutional.
Which is irrelevant to her purpose.
Which is to further the democrat strategy of only taxing the rich.

How is it unconstitutional?


Read 16th Amend­ment (It fails as an in­come tax) and Ar­ti­cle I, Sec­tion 9, Clause 4 (It fails be­cause it is an un­ap­por­tioned di­rect tax).
The 16th was written precisely because of the gross impracticality of apportionment.  It chucked out apportionment for income tax.  Just because the very rich earn money in a different way doesn't mean that apportionment suddenly becomes sensible again.   Courts have generally rejected apportionment, and it clearly makes no sense when people earn money across multiple state borders.   Think about it.
You need to think about it.
The 16th Amendment allows “ income” from all sources to be taxed. But the government cannot reach into your pocket and tax money you already paid taxes on.

Yeah, like an inheritance tax! Or a property tax!

Oops.
Josh. Ignorance of our laws is something a global moderator ought to be ashamed of.

*phew*

I dodged that bullet, then!

No specifics from you, because you have no real point, just a need to contradict.
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