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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
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A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
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More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
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A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #9675 on: February 09, 2019, 04:06:58 PM »

Did your ancestors enter illegally?  Not something to be proud of.

Nope, two grandparents were economic refugees and entered legally. 

That was kind of the point: what they did - come here to work - should not now be illegal.  Nor should seeking political asylum be treated as a crime.

That is the whole point

Economic refugees...and entered legally.

Coming to America to work is not now illegal.

https://www.thebalancecareers.com/types-of-us-work-visas-and-requirements-2064322

U.S. Work Visas and Eligibility Requirements

Are you a foreign national interested in employment in the U.S.? If so, you will need a work visa to be legally employed in the United States of America. There are several types of work visas available for foreign nationals who want to work in the United States, including green cards (permanent residency), temporary work visas, seasonal work visas, and exchange worker visas.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #9676 on: February 09, 2019, 04:22:23 PM »

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maxine-waters-charged-with-three-ethics-violations/

Awwww.....

You can bring yourself to point out an 8.5 year old ethics issue involving a Democrat, but cannot manage even a passing moment of concern for a White House administration with ongoing violation of ethics and morals wrt children of legal asylum seekers.


Pretty sure they are following the current law of the land.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #9677 on: February 09, 2019, 04:37:14 PM »

Elizabeth Warren bringing it with this announcement speech... once folks get past the Pocahontas bullshit they’re gonna love what she’s selling.

I am willing to let the Native American thing slide....

So, what do you like about her?

It would be so much easier for many of us to consider other options if they all dropped the Trump venom.
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« Reply #9678 on: February 09, 2019, 05:25:21 PM »

You cannot make it as a "Rugged Individualist" in the world, you need to have a team.

The Persian Jews took over Beverly Hills, even putting a Persian Jew into the office of Mayor of Beverly Hills, by working together as a team.

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The Persian Conquest

https://www.wmagazine.com/story/persian-beverly-hills-2

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Persian Jews, Wikipedia page...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Jews

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History of the Iranian Americans in Los Angeles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Iranian_Americans_in_Los_Angeles

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Iranian Jews Find a Beverly Hills Refuge

http://articles.latimes.com/1990-02-13/local/me-543_1_beverly-hills

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IRANIAN JEW ELECTED BEVERLY HILLS MAYOR

http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/Iranian-Jew-elected-Beverly-Hills-mayor

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The Persian Jews came to the USA and bought mansions, they bought the most expensive houses in the most expensive area, and they put in one of their own as Mayor. They did not start out at the bottom, they started out at the top and took over.

And the people from the Philippines work together as a team too, not as good as the Persian Jews, but they help each other. A Filipino will hire all Filipinos, and they will go to Filipino doctors, and they feel an instant bond with other Filipinos, they are each other's people, they are automatic teammates. We had a Filipino day when I worked at Universal Studios, and twenty five thousand Filipinos showed up, it was great.

The Greeks, the Italians, the Mexicans, they all have a bond with their people.

I was taught to be a "Rugged Individualist" and that I am just an "American." My family has been in the USA for so long that I do not even know which nations in Europe they came from. I am a descendant of the pioneers.

Here is my family tree...

Okay here it is on my mother's side, it is okay to share, they have all passed on...

Willard Lester Cole
Born June 30, 1919
Born in Mena, Arkansas
Died in Lancaster, California
Died in November, 1969
Buried in San Bernardino

William Cevus Cole - Willard's Father
Died 1948
Mena, Arkansas

Mary Etta Scott - Willard's Mother
Died May, 1953
Mena, Arkansas

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Jennie Amalia Massey
Born April 3, 1922
Born in Canfield,  Colorado
Died February 14, 1990
Died in Lancaster, California
Brother Art Massey
Sister Juanita Massey

Arthur M. Massey - Jennie's Father
Born on October 1, 1898
Born in Littleton, Colorado
Died January 1970
Died in Los Angeles, California

Thelma Grace Wolff - Jennie's Mother
Born February 8, 1899
Born in La Junta, Colorado
Died January 7, 1969
Died in San Bernardino
Brother Argus Henry Wolff

William Henry Wolff - Thelma's Father
Born 1857
Born in Carrolton, Kentucky
Died 1907
Died in Denver, Colorado

Amalia Argus - Thelma's Mother
Born 1861
Born in Madison, Indiana
Died August 4, 1930
Died in Denver, Colorado.

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That is all that I have, I want to pay someone to help me to learn more about my family tree, and I want to do a DNA test. I think that I am part French, with some Native American, and Greek, and others, and maybe Italian.

I want to learn more.

And I think that my Great Grandfather was Chief of Police for Denver, Colorado, at one time, etc.

That was my Mother's side of my family, my Mother was born in San Bernardino, California, and she is alive and well. My Father was from Oregon.

My Father's side of my family lived in Oregon for a long time, there is a cemetery in Oregon where my Father is buried where I have ancestors going back to the 1800's.

There is a book, "Rankin Crow and the Oregon Country," which tells some of the history of Oregon, and some of my family members are mentioned in the book.

Link...

https://www.amazon.com/Rankin-Crow-Oregon-country/dp/B0006C9DEQ

But anyhow, I am just an American. I need to do the DNA test and join Ancestry.com to find out more about my family tree and where my people came from. I just viewed all Americans as being my people, and all people are God's children, and I felt perfectly at home in Italy, and in France, and the people were warm and kind there.

I had a problem in Mexico, the children spit on me, when I went to do charity work with Youth For Christ, we went to help children living in a garbage dump in Mexico, and the children did not like me, they spit on me and I had to win them over. I climbed up on a dumpster, and I did a flip off of the dumpster onto a pile of cardboard, and then I passed out candy to the kids, and soon they were all doing flips off of the dumpster onto the cardboard and they were all eating candy, and they were happy. I won their friendship. Then we went to some Catholic orphanages, and the children were polite as the Nuns had taught them to be, they were good kids. But, the kids at the dump immediately let me know that I was not part of their group, I was not their people, they only liked me because I was cool and I gave them candy. But, they love American music, and American film and television, and many Mexicans love Americans. But, like, if you want to have a vacation home in Colombia, or other part of Latin America, I think the way to do it would be to donate a library to the village by where you want to have your vacation home, you have to win them over, and then they will love you. It is not like Italy, or France, where they automatically are cordial, in Latin America you have to win them over.

Anyhow, I am just an American, and I envy people who have ethnic groups to which they belong, and I like how they have each other's back, and I like how they help each other. Republican Americans are not big on helping each other, many are rugged individualists, and many would not even feed you, they want you to work and earn your own food, I even have issues about that. As young as ten years old, after my father had died, I had to work twelve hours a day bathing and brushing dogs for my Grandmother who was a dog groomer, just so that I could eat, I was told that if you want to eat then you need to work. There was no team, they thought it was just fine for you to starve unless you work. And that same kind of thinking is why they allow people to starve in the world, they want the people to work and save themselves. If you do not like to starve, then you need to work so that you can eat. I was raised to be on my own. Then the economy went really bad, and I was homeless for two years. I had no team, no ethnic group to go to for help. Finally after a nervous breakdown, a doctor in Laguna Beach, California, put me in a group home, where I could get help, and doctors and psychiatrists and psychologists and stuff helped me, and the Filipinos helped me. I love the Filipinos. Now, I would rather be part of a tribe than be alone, I would rather be a part of my community, I would rather have friends, and family, etc, being a rugged individualist is not for me.

I want to do my DNA and family tree and see who my people are, and it would be cool to have an ethnic group to identify with. Meanwhile, I am just an American, but I refuse to be a rugged individualist, I would rather have a team. And I look forward to getting married, if I can find the right woman, a wife is the ultimate teammate.

Salute,

Tony V.


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #9679 on: February 09, 2019, 06:28:02 PM »

Tony, this is a chat forum, so it's the custom to post links to longer essays and such.  Have you considered getting a free blog (several web hosts provide free space), which you could link us to?  Screen dumps like the above aren't a great fit when people are chatting.  JMO. 

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #9680 on: February 09, 2019, 06:42:45 PM »

Elizabeth Warren bringing it with this announcement speech... once folks get past the Pocahontas bullshit they’re gonna love what she’s selling.

I am willing to let the Native American thing slide....

So, what do you like about her?

It would be so much easier for many of us to consider other options if they all dropped the Trump venom.

Heavens to Betsy, just find someone whose policy position you consider to be the best for all Americans, and who has a track record of capability. 

You picked someone, last time, who tweets nonstop venom at everyone who disagrees with him or questions his actions.  Where do you get off complaining about venom? 

AFAICT, Trump is more venomous than any other candidate around. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nicknames_used_by_Donald_Trump

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #9681 on: February 09, 2019, 07:23:13 PM »

Where was/is the MeToo brigade?

https://www.whimn.com.au/play/unwind/if-ines-was-a-man-her-abusive-behaviour-would-not-be-shown-on-prime-time/news-story/687cc0a218c4e43f73efe9fb6e373ed3

If Ines Was A Man, Her Abusive Behaviour Would Not Be Shown On Prime Time

It's not OK.

Let me take you on a little journey.

A man and a woman go out on a date together.

He tells the woman: “I just need you to shut the f**k up right now. I need you to shut up.” The woman, looking shocked, does indeed shut up.
About five minutes later, the man begins to clear his throat in an anxious way. The woman, trying to soothe his nerves, attempts to speak again. “When I tell you to shut the f**k up, I mean SHUT THE F**K UP!” the man shrieks at her.

He’s spitting when he yells, a vein bulging in his neck. He’s leaning forward, getting right in the woman’s face, summoning up every ounce of physical presence to intimidate and ridicule.

“Grow a f**king ballsack!” he spits, and that’s where our little exercise ends, because it wasn’t, in fact, a man screaming abuse at a woman, but a woman screaming abuse at a man.

Last night’s episode of MAFS showed Ines, our troubled, troubling and hard-to-want bride, screaming profanities at her stoic groom, Bronson, as they hurtled out to the open ocean for a date.

Bronson, looking as though he’d rather try his luck with the reef sharks than spend another minute trapped on the boat with Ines, visibly tries to shrink his body into the side of the boat - a fruitless exercise, given his body is literally the size of the boat.

In spite of the vast size difference between the two, Bronson looks intimidated, as well he should, given that what he is experiencing is abuse.


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Not a word from the MeToo lot or any other hardline, or softline for that matter, feminist group.
It's just shown on tv as part of the program, as if it's all ok.
Nothing happened because it was a man being abused by a woman.
And therein lies the double standard in society today.

If this is any indication, no wonder in Australia, men account for 75 per cent of deaths by suicide.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #9682 on: February 09, 2019, 07:31:52 PM »

Where was/is the MeToo brigade?

https://www.whimn.com.au/play/unwind/if-ines-was-a-man-her-abusive-behaviour-would-not-be-shown-on-prime-time/news-story/687cc0a218c4e43f73efe9fb6e373ed3

If Ines Was A Man, Her Abusive Behaviour Would Not Be Shown On Prime Time

It's not OK.

Let me take you on a little journey.

A man and a woman go out on a date together.

He tells the woman: “I just need you to shut the f**k up right now. I need you to shut up.” The woman, looking shocked, does indeed shut up.
About five minutes later, the man begins to clear his throat in an anxious way. The woman, trying to soothe his nerves, attempts to speak again. “When I tell you to shut the f**k up, I mean SHUT THE F**K UP!” the man shrieks at her.

He’s spitting when he yells, a vein bulging in his neck. He’s leaning forward, getting right in the woman’s face, summoning up every ounce of physical presence to intimidate and ridicule.

“Grow a f**king ballsack!” he spits, and that’s where our little exercise ends, because it wasn’t, in fact, a man screaming abuse at a woman, but a woman screaming abuse at a man.

Last night’s episode of MAFS showed Ines, our troubled, troubling and hard-to-want bride, screaming profanities at her stoic groom, Bronson, as they hurtled out to the open ocean for a date.

Bronson, looking as though he’d rather try his luck with the reef sharks than spend another minute trapped on the boat with Ines, visibly tries to shrink his body into the side of the boat - a fruitless exercise, given his body is literally the size of the boat.

In spite of the vast size difference between the two, Bronson looks intimidated, as well he should, given that what he is experiencing is abuse.


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Not a word from the MeToo lot or any other hardline, or softline for that matter, feminist group.
It's just shown on tv as part of the program, as if it's all ok.
Nothing happened because it was a man being abused by a woman.
And therein lies the double standard in society today.

If this is any indication, no wonder in Australia, men account for 75 per cent of deaths by suicide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkGQ3nyWvII
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #9683 on: February 09, 2019, 07:55:08 PM »

Refugees aren't illegal, and many of our ancestors were refugees.  And it is illegal and immoral to treat refugees like criminals.  Especially when they are willing to work hard at a labor job that your kids wouldn't touch with a ten meter pole.   



But it is illegal that was the point of the post.

---Whether it’s by crossing the U.S. border with a "coyote" or buying a fake U.S. passport, a foreign national who enters the U.S. illegally can be both convicted of a crime and held responsible for a civil violation under the U.S. immigration laws. Illegal entry also carries consequences for anyone who might later attempt to apply for a green card or other immigration benefit.---


What part of crime don't you understand? You just cannot come into the USA and demand to share stuff given to citizens paid for by their tax money or compete with unions and labor at a lower wage. My relatives all came in legally and had to wait and pass tests and quotas.


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« Reply #9684 on: February 09, 2019, 08:09:46 PM »

Elizabeth Warren bringing it with this announcement speech... once folks get past the Pocahontas bullshit they’re gonna love what she’s selling.

I am willing to let the Native American thing slide....

So, what do you like about her?

It would be so much easier for many of us to consider other options if they all dropped the Trump venom.

Trump venom?

Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit...

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1094368870415110145?s=21

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1094370351407017984.html
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #9685 on: February 09, 2019, 10:06:12 PM »

At Large

Virginia Lt. Governor Fairfax fighting for his political life after one woman says he assaulted her and another says he raped her.  Fairfax is calling for an FBI investigation and due process.  Hmmm. Rings a bell.

AOC's web page on her Green New Deal now suddenly has a lot of blanks after a couple of days of critical response.
Farting Cows and jet planes may survive.  Stay tuned.

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« Reply #9686 on: February 09, 2019, 10:16:59 PM »

 Oh we will, Ben Shapiro.
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« Reply #9687 on: February 09, 2019, 10:36:03 PM »

Tony, this is a chat forum, so it's the custom to post links to longer essays and such.  Have you considered getting a free blog (several web hosts provide free space), which you could link us to?  Screen dumps like the above aren't a great fit when people are chatting.  JMO.

Ahhhhhhshaddapppp

Good stuff, Tony
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« Reply #9688 on: February 09, 2019, 10:37:49 PM »

Refugees aren't illegal, and many of our ancestors were refugees.  And it is illegal and immoral to treat refugees like criminals.  Especially when they are willing to work hard at a labor job that your kids wouldn't touch with a ten meter pole.   



But it is illegal that was the point of the post.

---Whether it’s by crossing the U.S. border with a "coyote" or buying a fake U.S. passport, a foreign national who enters the U.S. illegally can be both convicted of a crime and held responsible for a civil violation under the U.S. immigration laws. Illegal entry also carries consequences for anyone who might later attempt to apply for a green card or other immigration benefit.---


What part of crime don't you understand? You just cannot come into the USA and demand to share stuff given to citizens paid for by their tax money or compete with unions and labor at a lower wage. My relatives all came in legally and had to wait and pass tests and quotas.

People do commit immigration crimes, it’s true.

Those crimes should be investigated and prosecuted, but only once we’ve made a serious dent in the far more threatening and rampant crimes of fraud, tax evasion, bribery, gun running, embezzlement, and espionage all of which should be higher priorities for our justice systems. This doesn’t mean we shouldn’t invest in our ports of entry or bring the wages and conditions in our worst industries up to real humane standards.

Hunting immigrants hurts many while actually helping no one at all.
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« Reply #9689 on: February 09, 2019, 11:44:07 PM »

At Large

Virginia Lt. Governor Fairfax fighting for his political life after one woman says he assaulted her and another says he raped her.  Fairfax is calling for an FBI investigation and due process.  Hmmm. Rings a bell.

AOC's web page on her Green New Deal now suddenly has a lot of blanks after a couple of days of critical response.
Farting Cows and jet planes may survive.  Stay tuned.

You remind of the news guy on the tv show “Dinosaurs.”

I highly recommend you watch the final episode...
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