Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[LarryBnDC]

https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/bagley/2019/02/18/bagley-cartoon-gop-tax/

[bambu-wisdom]

Meanwhile, back at the plantation...

]https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/news/2019/02/18/alabama-newspaper-ku-klux-klan-to-night-ride-again-linden-democrat-reporter-goodloe-sutton/2910436002/

[/url]

When asked if he recognized the KKK as a racist and violent organization, Sutton disagreed, comparing the Klan to the NAACP.

#####

Exactly why there should be a different organisation to represent the interests of White people.
Something like a NAAWP group for example.

Mr Sutton seems to have missed the idea that it's now the 21st century and lynching suspected cattle rustlers or anyone else is cold-blooded murder.

[facilitatorn]

There was one once. It died in a bunker between the Red Army and the forces of the western alliance. It goose stepped itself right off the map. No need for a repeat. Thanks anyway.

[LarryBnDC]

Meanwhile, back at the plantation...

]https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/news/2019/02/18/alabama-newspaper-ku-klux-klan-to-night-ride-again-linden-democrat-reporter-goodloe-sutton/2910436002/

[/url]

When asked if he recognized the KKK as a racist and violent organization, Sutton disagreed, comparing the Klan to the NAACP.

#####

Exactly why there should be a different organisation to represent the interests of White people.
Something like a NAAWP group for example.

Mr Sutton seems to have missed the idea that it's now the 21st century and lynching suspected cattle rustlers or anyone else is cold-blooded murder.

Everything about this nation represents the interest of White people.

[NeedsAdjustments]

McCabe confirms for first time to Savannah Guthrie on Today that the FBI informed the Gang of 8 in May 2017 that the FBI had opened a counterintelligence investigation into Trump and "no one objected. Not on legal grounds, not on constitutional grounds, and not based on the facts."

Enter REDSTATEWARD: Smollet!

[whiskeypriest]

Bambu, I hope that your wife has a great visit to the USA.

I hope that she does not plan to visit Disneyland, more rain is on the way.

Salute,

Tony V.

Thanks.

She visited Disney-Tokyo and Disney-Hong Kong last year...not the 'real thing' like in America, but good enough to get the idea.
She had the chance to go to USA with a group, in US winter, probably her only chance to ever go, so she took it.

What is hilarious is you actually believed that story. If she comes back you will probably believe that the muscular handsome and toothy Antonio was a "tour guide".

LOL

You know how the saying goes;

"If you love someone, set them free. If they come back they're yours; if they don't they never were hunt them down and kill them."

What, and spend the rest of one's life in prison?
Not worth it.

Has it ever occurred to you that spending your life in prison represents the natural end of your world view worked out to its logical conclusion?

[barton]

GOP election fraud through absentee ballots...

https://www.wral.com/no-immunity-for-political-operative-mccrae-dowless-so-he-won-t-testify-in-9th-district-hearing/18200098/

but yeah, Voter ID is the solution...

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article223310620.html

https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/02/12/new-study-voter-id-laws-dont-deter-turnout-or-fraud/

Find another windmill to joust. 35 states have voter ID laws. Even the ones that don’t require picture ID they ask for one when voting. It makes voting easier and faster.

Haven't been asked for an ID of any sort while voting. It's only been 43 years now.

But if it doesn't deter fraud, what's the point?

Ask the 75% who favor ID laws.

Still doesn't answer the substantive question.  99 percent of people could like a law because it makes them feel good, but we generally want laws to serve a real purpose. 
Tell us what the law accomplishes, rather than just vaguely gesturing at a group of people we should go ask.  Make your own argument.  How is voting easier and faster, in the 35 states you cite?

[whiskeypriest]

GOP election fraud through absentee ballots...

https://www.wral.com/no-immunity-for-political-operative-mccrae-dowless-so-he-won-t-testify-in-9th-district-hearing/18200098/

but yeah, Voter ID is the solution...

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article223310620.html

https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/02/12/new-study-voter-id-laws-dont-deter-turnout-or-fraud/

Find another windmill to joust. 35 states have voter ID laws. Even the ones that don’t require picture ID they ask for one when voting. It makes voting easier and faster.

Haven't been asked for an ID of any sort while voting. It's only been 43 years now.

But if it doesn't deter fraud, what's the point?

Ask the 75% who favor ID laws.

Still doesn't answer the substantive question.  99 percent of people could like a law because it makes them feel good, but we generally want laws to serve a real purpose. 
Tell us what the law accomplishes, rather than just vaguely gesturing at a group of people we should go ask.  Make your own argument.  How is voting easier and faster, in the 35 states you cite?

Red continues to believe polling numbers settle arguments in his favor only. If that number ever drops to near 50 he will drop it as fast as he dropped the ACA poll numbers, and raise it as often as he raises the polling numbers for his tax cut.

[REDSTATEWARD]

GOP election fraud through absentee ballots...

https://www.wral.com/no-immunity-for-political-operative-mccrae-dowless-so-he-won-t-testify-in-9th-district-hearing/18200098/

but yeah, Voter ID is the solution...

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article223310620.html

https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/02/12/new-study-voter-id-laws-dont-deter-turnout-or-fraud/

Find another windmill to joust. 35 states have voter ID laws. Even the ones that don’t require picture ID they ask for one when voting. It makes voting easier and faster.

Haven't been asked for an ID of any sort while voting. It's only been 43 years now.

But if it doesn't deter fraud, what's the point?

Ask the 75% who favor ID laws.

Still doesn't answer the substantive question.  99 percent of people could like a law because it makes them feel good, but we generally want laws to serve a real purpose. 
Tell us what the law accomplishes, rather than just vaguely gesturing at a group of people we should go ask.  Make your own argument.  How is voting easier and faster, in the 35 states you cite?

My state has had a voter ID law for well over a decade. It does not require a voter to have a picture ID yet poll workers ask for one when the voter is signing in. Absent a picture ID the voter can present a bank statement, utility bill and other forms to prove identity. Voting is easy and fast.

[LarryBnDC]

GOP election fraud through absentee ballots...

https://www.wral.com/no-immunity-for-political-operative-mccrae-dowless-so-he-won-t-testify-in-9th-district-hearing/18200098/

but yeah, Voter ID is the solution...

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article223310620.html

https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/02/12/new-study-voter-id-laws-dont-deter-turnout-or-fraud/

Find another windmill to joust. 35 states have voter ID laws. Even the ones that don’t require picture ID they ask for one when voting. It makes voting easier and faster.

Haven't been asked for an ID of any sort while voting. It's only been 43 years now.

But if it doesn't deter fraud, what's the point?

Ask the 75% who favor ID laws.

Still doesn't answer the substantive question.  99 percent of people could like a law because it makes them feel good, but we generally want laws to serve a real purpose. 
Tell us what the law accomplishes, rather than just vaguely gesturing at a group of people we should go ask.  Make your own argument.  How is voting easier and faster, in the 35 states you cite?

My state has had a voter ID law for well over a decade. It does not require a voter to have a picture ID yet poll workers ask for one when the voter is signing in. Absent a picture ID the voter can present a bank statement, utility bill and other forms to prove identity. Voting is easy and fast.

Requiring a PHOTO ID has been the issue, fool.

Easy and fast? Yeah, if you live in the right district.

https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2018/02/15/voting-lines-are-shorter-but-mostly-for-whites



Have a seat.

[REDSTATEWARD]

GOP election fraud through absentee ballots...

https://www.wral.com/no-immunity-for-political-operative-mccrae-dowless-so-he-won-t-testify-in-9th-district-hearing/18200098/

but yeah, Voter ID is the solution...

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article223310620.html

https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/02/12/new-study-voter-id-laws-dont-deter-turnout-or-fraud/

Find another windmill to joust. 35 states have voter ID laws. Even the ones that don’t require picture ID they ask for one when voting. It makes voting easier and faster.

Haven't been asked for an ID of any sort while voting. It's only been 43 years now.

But if it doesn't deter fraud, what's the point?

Ask the 75% who favor ID laws.

Still doesn't answer the substantive question.  99 percent of people could like a law because it makes them feel good, but we generally want laws to serve a real purpose. 
Tell us what the law accomplishes, rather than just vaguely gesturing at a group of people we should go ask.  Make your own argument.  How is voting easier and faster, in the 35 states you cite?

My state has had a voter ID law for well over a decade. It does not require a voter to have a picture ID yet poll workers ask for one when the voter is signing in. Absent a picture ID the voter can present a bank statement, utility bill and other forms to prove identity. Voting is easy and fast.

Requiring a PHOTO ID has been the issue, fool.

No it hasn't. Only 17 of 35 states with ID laws specify a photo must accompany a valid voter ID.
But that doesn't mean states can't ask for photo id's which speed up the process.  Your cited article, if you read it all, outlines a number of ways county election boards are reducing time in lines by better use of resources, etc. 
Voted ID laws don't add to the wait time at the polls.  And they don't reduce turnout.

[LarryBnDC]

GOP election fraud through absentee ballots...

https://www.wral.com/no-immunity-for-political-operative-mccrae-dowless-so-he-won-t-testify-in-9th-district-hearing/18200098/

but yeah, Voter ID is the solution...

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article223310620.html

https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/02/12/new-study-voter-id-laws-dont-deter-turnout-or-fraud/

Find another windmill to joust. 35 states have voter ID laws. Even the ones that don’t require picture ID they ask for one when voting. It makes voting easier and faster.

Haven't been asked for an ID of any sort while voting. It's only been 43 years now.

But if it doesn't deter fraud, what's the point?

Ask the 75% who favor ID laws.

Still doesn't answer the substantive question.  99 percent of people could like a law because it makes them feel good, but we generally want laws to serve a real purpose. 
Tell us what the law accomplishes, rather than just vaguely gesturing at a group of people we should go ask.  Make your own argument.  How is voting easier and faster, in the 35 states you cite?

My state has had a voter ID law for well over a decade. It does not require a voter to have a picture ID yet poll workers ask for one when the voter is signing in. Absent a picture ID the voter can present a bank statement, utility bill and other forms to prove identity. Voting is easy and fast.

Requiring a PHOTO ID has been the issue, fool.

No it hasn't. Only 17 of 35 states with ID laws specify a photo must accompany a valid voter ID.
But that doesn't mean states can't ask for photo id's which speed up the process.  Your cited article, if you read it all, outlines a number of ways county election boards are reducing time in lines by better use of resources, etc. 
Voted ID laws don't add to the wait time at the polls.  And they don't reduce turnout.

Securing a photo ID in order to vote has always been the bugaboo and you know it.

Where are your usual arguments about needing a photo ID to fly, cash checks or buy booze?

[facilitatorn]

Red can spout dogma right into the face of countervailing reality. No one is sure why he does it, but he sure is persistent.

Mitch, Burr, Ryan, and Nunes were the wrong side of the gang of eight at the time. I believe it’s the party leaders and the intelligence committee heads from each house. Paul Ryan will explain it in his tell all. The other three will weasel on.

It must make loser Individual 1 feel great that when it mattered most, none of these guys had his back.

[bodiddley]

Who doesn't have a driver's license (or passport).
People who live in cities and poor people and poor people who live in cities.  Gee, who tends to vote Democratic.  Poor people and people who live in cities.

It's been obvious that the GOP targets DEM voters and tries to reduce overall turnout.  I think going forward turnout will be affected by ID laws.  I think that's primarily there purpose.  Just because it wasn't when Trump polarized America, or there was a mid-term election voter surge to repudiate Trumpism doesn't mean that voter suppression didn't occur and won't be observable in a more normal election year.

The GOP is worried about its shrinking base, and has been playing hardball to hold on to power.  Whether it's severe gerrymandering, voter ID laws, reducing early voting, trying to prevent easy/late registration, not supporting election day as a holiday, making it hard for college students to vote, etc.  Voter suppression is a key part of the GOP game plan. 

Along with non-competitive House districts, I think GOP undermining of gov't and doing a shitty job of governing when in office seems like a plan to get people to give up on the political process and not vote. 

[oilcan]

Carterism....

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/01/14/carterism