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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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josh

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10455 on: February 28, 2019, 02:32:17 PM »
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10456 on: February 28, 2019, 02:40:22 PM »
Some of my best friends, some of my relatives!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10457 on: February 28, 2019, 02:48:01 PM »
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10458 on: February 28, 2019, 02:52:01 PM »
Nieces and nephews!!!!!

Nobody knows!!!!!
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10459 on: February 28, 2019, 02:59:54 PM »
Quote from: josh on February 28, 2019, 02:32:17 PM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2019/02/28/mark-meadows-2012-vow-send-obama-to-kenya-resurfaces/3013304002/?fbclid=IwAR3eX9uG8RAC8XvRxCUmlicTig2beJzkvOaDT18VPDVu9bTXxqSaflRJF5Q

"I'm not a racist."

"Well, okay, maybe just a little."


In a 2012 interview with Roll Call shortly after he made the remarks, Meadows said it was "probably a poor choice of words on my part more than anything else."

"I believe he's an American citizen," Meadows clarified at the time.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10460 on: February 28, 2019, 03:00:53 PM »
Poor choice of words!!!!!
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10461 on: February 28, 2019, 03:13:40 PM »
Quote from: josh on February 28, 2019, 02:48:01 PM
Quote from: josh on February 28, 2019, 02:32:17 PM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2019/02/28/mark-meadows-2012-vow-send-obama-to-kenya-resurfaces/3013304002/?fbclid=IwAR3eX9uG8RAC8XvRxCUmlicTig2beJzkvOaDT18VPDVu9bTXxqSaflRJF5Q

"I'm not a racist."

"Well, okay, maybe just a little."

But now he says he "does not stand behind" his 2012 remarks.

Well, that makes it all better, then, doesn't it?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/28/politics/mark-meadows-obama-kenya-2012/index.html

And note how the whole proceedings had to grind to a halt to sooth the feelings of the aggrieved white guy after he offended multiple people of color in that room, and watching on their televisions, after he trotted out a black woman as a prop, an obviously racist provocation.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10462 on: February 28, 2019, 03:16:40 PM »
He’s only racist when he thinks he can get away with it. He’s a yellow racist, which Kid will tell you is perfectly acceptable for a republican since racism is the lynchpin for the whole party’s platform.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10463 on: February 28, 2019, 03:28:18 PM »
Quote from: facilitatorn on February 28, 2019, 03:16:40 PM
He’s only racist when he thinks he can get away with it. He’s a yellow racist, which Kid will tell you is perfectly acceptable for a republican since racism is the lynchpin for the whole party’s platform.

And classicism is the lynchpin of the Dem's. Not much difference, if you think about it, carefully.

Classifying whole groups of people whether by skin color, or by the color of their money,  in order to garner votes isn't truly fair.

But it does make for politics in the good ol' USA.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10464 on: February 28, 2019, 03:32:04 PM »
Quote from: kiidcarter8 on February 28, 2019, 02:59:54 PM
Quote from: josh on February 28, 2019, 02:32:17 PM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2019/02/28/mark-meadows-2012-vow-send-obama-to-kenya-resurfaces/3013304002/?fbclid=IwAR3eX9uG8RAC8XvRxCUmlicTig2beJzkvOaDT18VPDVu9bTXxqSaflRJF5Q

"I'm not a racist."

"Well, okay, maybe just a little."


In a 2012 interview with Roll Call shortly after he made the remarks, Meadows said it was "probably a poor choice of words on my part more than anything else."

"I believe he's an American citizen," Meadows clarified at the time.
So he is willing to cater to his base with a racist comment he realizes is inapt and you are.down with that. Excellent.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10465 on: February 28, 2019, 03:37:33 PM »
Quote from: whiskeypriest on February 28, 2019, 03:32:04 PM
Quote from: kiidcarter8 on February 28, 2019, 02:59:54 PM
Quote from: josh on February 28, 2019, 02:32:17 PM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2019/02/28/mark-meadows-2012-vow-send-obama-to-kenya-resurfaces/3013304002/?fbclid=IwAR3eX9uG8RAC8XvRxCUmlicTig2beJzkvOaDT18VPDVu9bTXxqSaflRJF5Q

"I'm not a racist."

"Well, okay, maybe just a little."


In a 2012 interview with Roll Call shortly after he made the remarks, Meadows said it was "probably a poor choice of words on my part more than anything else."

"I believe he's an American citizen," Meadows clarified at the time.
So he is willing to cater to his base with a racist comment he realizes is inapt and you are.down with that. Excellent.

Not only is he down with that, he thinks its exculpatory!
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10466 on: February 28, 2019, 03:45:05 PM »
Speaking of "poor choice of words";

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/terrible-choice-of-phrase-robert-richter-apologises-for-plain-vanilla-comment/ar-BBUbYRm?li=AAgfYrC&OCID=AVRES000[/

'Terrible choice of phrase': Robert Richter apologises for 'plain vanilla' comment

Defence barrister Robert Richter, QC, has apologised for describing acts of sexual abuse carried out by Cardinal George Pell against two choirboys as "no more than a plain vanilla sexual penetration case".

The prominent Melbourne-based barrister was heavily criticised after he made the comments during a pre-sentencing hearing on Wednesday for Pell, who has been convicted of sexually abusing two boys in a sacristy after Sunday Mass in 1996.

"After spending a sleepless night reflecting upon the terrible choice of phrase I used in court during the course of a long and stressful process, I offer my sincerest apologies to all who were hurt or offended by it," Mr Richter said in a statement released on Thursday evening.

"No offence was intended. It was not intended to evade the seriousness of what had been done. The seriousness of the crime was acknowledged at the outset by the concession that merited imprisonment.

"In seeking to mitigate the sentence I used a wholly inappropriate phrase for which I apologise profusely to all who interpreted it in a way it was never intended: it was in no way meant to belittle or minimise the suffering and hurt of victims of sex abuse, and in retrospect I can see why it caused great offence to many.

"I hope my apology is accepted as sincerely as it is meant and I will never repeat such carelessness in my choice of words which might offend," he said.

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He's realised the error of his words, he's sincerely apologised, and we move on.
 
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bambu-wisdom

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10467 on: February 28, 2019, 03:54:01 PM »
We move on...

...to why Pell's defence lawyers were barred from showing the video;

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/judges-decision-to-bar-pac-man-video-in-focus-of-pell-appeal-bid/ar-BBUcs8H?li=AAgfYrC&OCID=AVRES000

Judge's decision to bar 'Pac-Man' video in focus of Pell appeal bid

The judge's decision to bar the jury from watching a video will be one of three grounds on which lawyers for sex offender George Pell will appeal his conviction.

Lawyers will also claim there were issues with the way the jury of eight men and four women was selected and that they reached an "unreasonable" verdict based on the evidence presented.
The "unreasonable" verdict ground will be the main element of the appeal, but the video is a considered a key aspect.

The video, which depicted the layout of St Patrick's Cathedral and had coloured dots representing each of the people involved in Sunday Mass in December 1996, was likened in court to the 1980s video game Pac-Man.
Pell's lawyers wanted to show it to the jury but County Court chief judge Peter Kidd ruled it out.

Mr Richter’s colleague Ruth Shann said the video showed with simplicity where witnesses said they were, and argued for its inclusion so jurors could absorb, pictorially, what they had been told.

‘‘We are in the 21st century and communicating in a visual way is of assistance,’’ Ms Shann told the court.
‘‘We want to leave no stone unturned in defence of the cardinal.’’



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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10468 on: February 28, 2019, 04:00:02 PM »
Your fondness for powerful men who bugger the weaker, like Pell and Trump, is duly noted bambu-idiocy.
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« Reply #10469 on: February 28, 2019, 04:12:44 PM »
Quote from: whiskeypriest on February 28, 2019, 04:00:02 PM
Your fondness for powerful men who bugger the weaker, like Pell and Trump, is duly noted bambu-idiocy.

It's the possible-injustice/injustice in trials, verdicts, and sentences that I'm against, whether Lindy Chamberlain, George Pell, the hundreds in America the Innocence Project identifies as being wrongly-convicted and wrongly-incarcerated, or others. Others like the Aussie boys execution-slaughtered by Indonesia, for example.

As for Trump...you elected him 'king', I have to deal with him, and his 'enemies'...and the policies of his enemies which, if they come to fruition could be adopted by their ilk in bambuland, affecting me greatly.

bambu-ilk do not like stones being left unturned in trials.
Everyone deserves a fair trial.
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