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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10500 on: February 28, 2019, 07:31:02 PM »

It is not known precisely what factors led to the problems with Mr. Kushner’s security clearance.



How about THERE WERE NONE?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10501 on: February 28, 2019, 08:20:34 PM »

Believing claimed 'victims' of crime without proper, unbiased investigation and the production of evidence other than the word of accusers, is a dangerous thing to do [to the accused].
What 'victims' today are claiming happened should not just be believed without question by the cops, prosecutors etc.

Automatic believing of accusations by 'victims' is a bad mindset to have today...just as it was in times past;

Some 'victims' lie under oath...for many different reasons. One being money, another being revenge, another being an alibi, another being attention-seeking, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Banks_(American_football)

Brian Banks (born July 24, 1985)[1] is a former American football linebacker. He signed with the Atlanta Falcons of the National Football League (NFL) on April 3, 2013.[2][3] Banks previously signed as an undrafted free agent with the Las Vegas Locomotives of the United Football League in 2012.[4][5]

Banks was a standout high school football star at Polytechnic High School (Poly) in Long Beach, California. In 2002, his Junior year, Banks verbally committed to USC.[6] After being falsely accused of rape by classmate Wanetta Gibson, he spent close to six years wrongfully imprisoned and five years on a strict custody parole, but had his conviction overturned in 2012 after his accuser confessed that she had fabricated the entire story.

In the summer of 2002, Banks was arrested and charged after classmate Wanetta Gibson falsely accused him of dragging her into a stairway at Polytechnic High School (Poly) and raping her. Faced with a possible 41 years to life sentence, he accepted a plea deal that included five years in prison, five years of probation, and registering as a sex offender. Wanetta Gibson and her mother Wanda Rhodes sued the Long Beach Unified School District, claiming the Poly campus was not a safe environment, and won a $1.5 million settlement.][17][18] Banks says that the lawyer said that by pleading guilty he would receive probation, but no jail time.

In March 2011, Gibson contacted Banks on Facebook, met with him, and admitted in the presence of an attorney that she had fabricated the story. Banks secretly recorded Gibson's confession, but she later refused to tell prosecutors that she had lied so she wouldn't have to return the money she and her family had won in court.


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Nothing happened to her and others of her ilk...so 'lying victims' continue today.

Was this a black man and a white girl?

Black girl.

https://kissrichmond.com/2824842/updated-brian-banks-rape-accuser-ordered-to-pay-2-6m/
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10502 on: February 28, 2019, 08:28:50 PM »

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/george-pell-has-good-chance-of-winning-appeal-against-convictions-expert-says/ar-BBUbGCb?li=AAgfYrC&OCID=AVRES000

Cardinal George Pell’s appeal against his convictions of sexually assaulting and penetrating choirboys is likely to be granted and has a good chance of succeeding on the basis of unreasonableness, according to legal experts and defence lawyers.

Pell’s defence barrister, Robert Richter, told the sentencing hearing on Wednesday that his client’s appeal would be based on three key grounds: unreasonableness, the prohibition of video evidence in the closing address, and composition of the jury.

Experts spoken to by Guardian Australia agreed that while the latter two appeared flimsy, an appeal on the basis of unreasonableness may have a high chance of success. This argument says the jury delivered a verdict that was not supported by the evidence.


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Verdict not supported by the evidence?
Can't be having that sort of thing going on, or no one will be safe...and the reputation of the legal system will be in tatters.
He should be acquitted.

"What evidence"?  many people are asking.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10504 on: February 28, 2019, 08:56:40 PM »

I have a friend who is a musician, who was in a couple of bands that achieved some level of success, and he said that when you reach the top, it is not just you, you need to have a whole team working with you. For instance, Frank Sinatra, he had a whole team helping him, it was not just Frank out there in the world on his own. You have your lawyers, and your agent, and your public relations people, and security people, and other people, helping you. My friend calls the helpers "Buffers," as they are buffers between you and the real world out there. You can focus on making music, or making movies, or public service, or whatever you do, without having to worry about everything else in life. And you need to be able to trust your Buffers.

And there is an old cowboy saying, do not bad mouth the brand that you ride for. If you work for them, and accept their money, then you cannot bad mouth them, if you dislike them then quit, but do not accept their money and bad mouth them.

So, I think that Trump's lawyer, Cohen, should have kept his mouth shut. Cohen would have had more respect if he would have kept his mouth shut. The time to speak was when he was doing the work and accepting Trump's money.

You need to have loyal people in your inner circle, and you need loyal Buffers whom you can trust.

I am not saying that I agree with what Trump has done, and you all know that I am against building a wall, but I am just saying that people need to take responsibility for their own actions instead of blaming others.

Cohen is taking responsibility for his errors.

And no, he shouldn't have remained loyal, Tony. Loyalty in the face of malfeasance is not a positive trait. And.. Trump is not, himself, loyal, so being loyal to him is foolish other than when it is for survival.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10505 on: February 28, 2019, 09:00:41 PM »

Speaking of "poor choice of words";

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/terrible-choice-of-phrase-robert-richter-apologises-for-plain-vanilla-comment/ar-BBUbYRm?li=AAgfYrC&OCID=AVRES000[/

'Terrible choice of phrase': Robert Richter apologises for 'plain vanilla' comment

Defence barrister Robert Richter, QC, has apologised for describing acts of sexual abuse carried out by Cardinal George Pell against two choirboys as "no more than a plain vanilla sexual penetration case".

The prominent Melbourne-based barrister was heavily criticised after he made the comments during a pre-sentencing hearing on Wednesday for Pell, who has been convicted of sexually abusing two boys in a sacristy after Sunday Mass in 1996.

"After spending a sleepless night reflecting upon the terrible choice of phrase I used in court during the course of a long and stressful process, I offer my sincerest apologies to all who were hurt or offended by it," Mr Richter said in a statement released on Thursday evening.

"No offence was intended. It was not intended to evade the seriousness of what had been done. The seriousness of the crime was acknowledged at the outset by the concession that merited imprisonment.

"In seeking to mitigate the sentence I used a wholly inappropriate phrase for which I apologise profusely to all who interpreted it in a way it was never intended: it was in no way meant to belittle or minimise the suffering and hurt of victims of sex abuse, and in retrospect I can see why it caused great offence to many.

"I hope my apology is accepted as sincerely as it is meant and I will never repeat such carelessness in my choice of words which might offend," he said.


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A man with a conscience.
He's realised the error of his words, he's sincerely apologised, and we move on.

"The seriousness of what had been done."

Sure sounds like an admission that his client is guilty, as he was found to be, just as the original statement was an admission, even though you wish to claim otherwise.

His client had been convicted, so he had to accept that and try to lessen the sentence.
No good still proclaiming innocence...his client was just proven guilty, his once-alleged offending now fact as far as the court was concerned.
He couldn't say "the seriousness of what had allegedly been done".
He had to speak that his client was guilty and the acts of sexual abuse had been proven.

He couldn't still say "the alleged offending is at the lower end of the scale".

His original comment was made after his client had been found guilty of the crimes he was charged with.
He then had to try to lessen the sentence for his now-convicted-pedophile client.
A pedophile he surely could be...but many people still have problems with the trial, evidence etc.

Except that the follow-up clarification came after it was too late to influence the verdict, Bambi. He was just clarifying the words.

Many people have many problems with many things, but without having had access to all of the evidence.

You keep using that "many others" had a problem with it as if that actually has substance to it. It doesn't.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10506 on: February 28, 2019, 09:01:55 PM »

Speaking of "poor choice of words";

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/terrible-choice-of-phrase-robert-richter-apologises-for-plain-vanilla-comment/ar-BBUbYRm?li=AAgfYrC&OCID=AVRES000[/

'Terrible choice of phrase': Robert Richter apologises for 'plain vanilla' comment

Defence barrister Robert Richter, QC, has apologised for describing acts of sexual abuse carried out by Cardinal George Pell against two choirboys as "no more than a plain vanilla sexual penetration case".

The prominent Melbourne-based barrister was heavily criticised after he made the comments during a pre-sentencing hearing on Wednesday for Pell, who has been convicted of sexually abusing two boys in a sacristy after Sunday Mass in 1996.

"After spending a sleepless night reflecting upon the terrible choice of phrase I used in court during the course of a long and stressful process, I offer my sincerest apologies to all who were hurt or offended by it," Mr Richter said in a statement released on Thursday evening.

"No offence was intended. It was not intended to evade the seriousness of what had been done. The seriousness of the crime was acknowledged at the outset by the concession that merited imprisonment.

"In seeking to mitigate the sentence I used a wholly inappropriate phrase for which I apologise profusely to all who interpreted it in a way it was never intended: it was in no way meant to belittle or minimise the suffering and hurt of victims of sex abuse, and in retrospect I can see why it caused great offence to many.

"I hope my apology is accepted as sincerely as it is meant and I will never repeat such carelessness in my choice of words which might offend," he said.


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A man with a conscience.
He's realised the error of his words, he's sincerely apologised, and we move on.

"The seriousness of what had been done."

Sure sounds like an admission that his client is guilty, as he was found to be, just as the original statement was an admission, even though you wish to claim otherwise.

His client had been convicted, so he had to accept that and try to lessen the sentence.
No good still proclaiming innocence...his client was just proven guilty, his once-alleged offending now fact as far as the court was concerned.
He couldn't say "the seriousness of what had allegedly been done".
He had to speak that his client was guilty and the acts of sexual abuse had been proven.
Not sure how it works in Australia, but in the United States attorneys often maintain their client's innocence long after conviction.

As they should if they believe their client is innocent.


Missing the point.

They do it regardless of their belief.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10507 on: February 28, 2019, 09:02:21 PM »

So...what do all the people so concerned with Hillary Clinton's handling of supposedly sensitive intelligence info say about this?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/28/us/politics/jared-kushner-security-clearance.html

Nothing.

Why would they?
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« Reply #10508 on: February 28, 2019, 09:07:02 PM »

On election security - testimony that was going on at the same time as Cohen's, yesterday:
https://twitter.com/jhalderm/status/1101146090416558080
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10509 on: February 28, 2019, 09:39:11 PM »

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/blogs/tim-blair/trump-hat-takes-care-of-business/news-story/11f232c009e42da3fc5cd41df7a0357e

TRUMP HAT TAKES CARE OF BUSINESS

Things rarely end well for MAGA hat haters. They lose their jobs, they lose their credibility and they lose their residency.
Massachusetts man Bryton Turner was wearing his MAGA cap at a restaurant recently when Rosiane Santos took exception to his patriotic headwear:
“She started saying, ‘What does your hat say? What does your hat say?’ I told her and she said, ‘Why would you wear that hat here?’

“I said, ‘It’s America. I can wear this hat wherever I want.’ ”

As Turner and his friends ate, the woman continued to berate him, and finally, he said, she went over and pushed his hat off.
“She started to throw a fit and cause a scene. She threw my hat across the bar three or four times before I took the video with my cellphone. I tried to take the video just so she would stop but she didn’t.”

The bartender called 911 and when the cops arrived, he showed them the video. They were escorting the woman out of the bar when she again lunged at the American taxpayer, hitting him.

The bartender, Geo Macarao, told Channel 25: “I couldn’t imagine somebody just coming up and hitting them when there’s cops right here.”
So Santos was arrested and charged with assault. And then she was arrested again, because it turns out Santos is an illegal immigrant from Brazil who has been living in the US since overstaying a tourist visa in 1994:

US Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokesman John Mohan said in a statement, “(Rosiane) Santos is currently facing local charges for assault and other offenses. She is presently in ICE custody and has been entered into removal proceedings before the federal immigration courts.”

After her first arrest, Santos admitted to Channel 25, “I had a little bit to drink. Maybe that’s the reason that I couldn’t walk away, but being discriminated for so many times in my life, I just had to stand up for my life …”

When they arrived at the police station, the illegal immigrant refused to get out of the cruiser and yelled, “What are you going to do if I don’t?”
What they did was take her fingerprints, after which they called ICE.

Bye bye, Miss Santos.


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Very patriotic to be wearing a MAGA hat.
MAGA hats are magical.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10510 on: February 28, 2019, 09:41:59 PM »

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/blogs/tim-blair/trump-hat-takes-care-of-business/news-story/11f232c009e42da3fc5cd41df7a0357e

TRUMP HAT TAKES CARE OF BUSINESS

Things rarely end well for MAGA hat haters. They lose their jobs, they lose their credibility and they lose their residency.
Massachusetts man Bryton Turner was wearing his MAGA cap at a restaurant recently when Rosiane Santos took exception to his patriotic headwear:
“She started saying, ‘What does your hat say? What does your hat say?’ I told her and she said, ‘Why would you wear that hat here?’

“I said, ‘It’s America. I can wear this hat wherever I want.’ ”

As Turner and his friends ate, the woman continued to berate him, and finally, he said, she went over and pushed his hat off.
“She started to throw a fit and cause a scene. She threw my hat across the bar three or four times before I took the video with my cellphone. I tried to take the video just so she would stop but she didn’t.”

The bartender called 911 and when the cops arrived, he showed them the video. They were escorting the woman out of the bar when she again lunged at the American taxpayer, hitting him.

The bartender, Geo Macarao, told Channel 25: “I couldn’t imagine somebody just coming up and hitting them when there’s cops right here.”
So Santos was arrested and charged with assault. And then she was arrested again, because it turns out Santos is an illegal immigrant from Brazil who has been living in the US since overstaying a tourist visa in 1994:

US Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokesman John Mohan said in a statement, “(Rosiane) Santos is currently facing local charges for assault and other offenses. She is presently in ICE custody and has been entered into removal proceedings before the federal immigration courts.”

After her first arrest, Santos admitted to Channel 25, “I had a little bit to drink. Maybe that’s the reason that I couldn’t walk away, but being discriminated for so many times in my life, I just had to stand up for my life …”

When they arrived at the police station, the illegal immigrant refused to get out of the cruiser and yelled, “What are you going to do if I don’t?”
What they did was take her fingerprints, after which they called ICE.

Bye bye, Miss Santos.


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Very patriotic to be wearing a MAGA hat.
MAGA hats are magical.

They're behind the times, according to the local news.

Ms. Santos is married to an American citizen and has a Green Card application in.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10511 on: February 28, 2019, 09:43:35 PM »

https://www.kxii.com/content/news/Federal-judge-blocks-purging-of-voter-rolls-in-Texas-506515071.html

Texas is trying to purge its voter rolls, but "U.S. District Judge Fred Biery of San Antonio says there was no evidence of widespread voter fraud, and called interim Secretary of State David Whitley's attempt "ham-handed.""
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10512 on: February 28, 2019, 09:58:35 PM »

Putin says Russia did not hack our election. Trump believed him.

The Prince said he had nothing to do with the reporter's death. Trump believed him.

Now Kim Jong Un says he had nothing to do with Otto Warmbier's death.

Trump believes him.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trump-otto-warmbier-death-kim-jong-un-wasn-t-blame-n977516

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10513 on: February 28, 2019, 11:33:32 PM »

Putin says Russia did not hack our election. Trump believed him.

The Prince said he had nothing to do with the reporter's death. Trump believed him.

Now Kim Jong Un says he had nothing to do with Otto Warmbier's death.

Trump believes him.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trump-otto-warmbier-death-kim-jong-un-wasn-t-blame-n977516

In the real world, Trump really has no choice but to believe them.
What would you have him do, call them all liars?
That'd be great for American business, not.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10514 on: February 28, 2019, 11:37:13 PM »


They're behind the times, according to the local news.

Ms. Santos is married to an American citizen and has a Green Card application in.

People should be stopped [legally of course'] from attacking MAGA hat wearers.
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