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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[REDSTATEWARD]

Paulie K, telling it like it is:

Never mind attempts to spin this story as somehow not meeting some definitions of collusion or obstruction of justice. The fact is that the occupant of the White House betrayed his country. And the question everyone is asking is, what will Democrats do about it?

But notice that the question is only about Democrats. Everyone (correctly) takes it as a given that Republicans will do nothing. Why?

Because the modern G.O.P. is perfectly willing to sell out America if that’s what it takes to get tax cuts for the wealthy. Republicans may not think of it in those terms, but that’s what their behavior amounts to.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/22/opinion/trump-republican-party.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

How easy it is for the Times’ prince of darkness to spout his take. He neglects the dilemmas of the d’s.
The d’s  DOJ favorites, Mueller and Rosenstein,  could not make cases for collusion or obstruction even  with a staff of dem donors and Hillary supporters. Add in that the dem House majority contains a slew of red state reps who face re-election next year.

Your response proves Krugman's point.

No.  I made my own points. 

[whiskeypriest]

Paulie K, telling it like it is:

Never mind attempts to spin this story as somehow not meeting some definitions of collusion or obstruction of justice. The fact is that the occupant of the White House betrayed his country. And the question everyone is asking is, what will Democrats do about it?

But notice that the question is only about Democrats. Everyone (correctly) takes it as a given that Republicans will do nothing. Why?

Because the modern G.O.P. is perfectly willing to sell out America if that’s what it takes to get tax cuts for the wealthy. Republicans may not think of it in those terms, but that’s what their behavior amounts to.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/22/opinion/trump-republican-party.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

How easy it is for the Times’ prince of darkness to spout his take. He neglects the dilemmas of the d’s.
The d’s  DOJ favorites, Mueller and Rosenstein,  could not make cases for collusion or obstruction even  with a staff of dem donors and Hillary supporters. Add in that the dem House majority contains a slew of red state reps who face re-election next year.

Your response proves Krugman's point.

No.  I made my own points.

Vocabulary lesson free of charge. Enjoy!

1. You made your own points, which were wrong to the point of being nonsense.
2. As a result you proved Krugman's point.

Get the difference?

[REDSTATEWARD]

Paulie K, telling it like it is:

Never mind attempts to spin this story as somehow not meeting some definitions of collusion or obstruction of justice. The fact is that the occupant of the White House betrayed his country. And the question everyone is asking is, what will Democrats do about it?

But notice that the question is only about Democrats. Everyone (correctly) takes it as a given that Republicans will do nothing. Why?

Because the modern G.O.P. is perfectly willing to sell out America if that’s what it takes to get tax cuts for the wealthy. Republicans may not think of it in those terms, but that’s what their behavior amounts to.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/22/opinion/trump-republican-party.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

How easy it is for the Times’ prince of darkness to spout his take. He neglects the dilemmas of the d’s.
The d’s  DOJ favorites, Mueller and Rosenstein,  could not make cases for collusion or obstruction even  with a staff of dem donors and Hillary supporters. Add in that the dem House majority contains a slew of red state reps who face re-election next year.

Your response proves Krugman's point.

No.  I made my own points.

Vocabulary lesson free of charge. Enjoy!

1. You made your own points, which were wrong to the point of being nonsense.
2. As a result you proved Krugman's point.

Get the difference?

Thanks  for making my points.

[whiskeypriest]

Paulie K, telling it like it is:

Never mind attempts to spin this story as somehow not meeting some definitions of collusion or obstruction of justice. The fact is that the occupant of the White House betrayed his country. And the question everyone is asking is, what will Democrats do about it?

But notice that the question is only about Democrats. Everyone (correctly) takes it as a given that Republicans will do nothing. Why?

Because the modern G.O.P. is perfectly willing to sell out America if that’s what it takes to get tax cuts for the wealthy. Republicans may not think of it in those terms, but that’s what their behavior amounts to.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/22/opinion/trump-republican-party.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

How easy it is for the Times’ prince of darkness to spout his take. He neglects the dilemmas of the d’s.
The d’s  DOJ favorites, Mueller and Rosenstein,  could not make cases for collusion or obstruction even  with a staff of dem donors and Hillary supporters. Add in that the dem House majority contains a slew of red state reps who face re-election next year.

Your response proves Krugman's point.

No.  I made my own points.

Vocabulary lesson free of charge. Enjoy!

1. You made your own points, which were wrong to the point of being nonsense.
2. As a result you proved Krugman's point.

Get the difference?

Thanks  for making my points.

Assuming your point was that you are an idiot, well then I made it for you.

[josh]

"Everybody is being skipped by most Democrats"

Not sure what this means.  Do they all have their mind made up already on their primary vote?

It means that among those who have chosen, 18 of 19 are being skipped and among those who have not chosen, (a) many are being explicitly skipped and (b) generally all of them are skipped

[josh]

Paulie K, telling it like it is:

Never mind attempts to spin this story as somehow not meeting some definitions of collusion or obstruction of justice. The fact is that the occupant of the White House betrayed his country. And the question everyone is asking is, what will Democrats do about it?

But notice that the question is only about Democrats. Everyone (correctly) takes it as a given that Republicans will do nothing. Why?

Because the modern G.O.P. is perfectly willing to sell out America if that’s what it takes to get tax cuts for the wealthy. Republicans may not think of it in those terms, but that’s what their behavior amounts to.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/22/opinion/trump-republican-party.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

Mueller and Rosenstein could not make cases for collusion or obstruction

Talk about a misrepresentation of what Mueller did.

The case for obstruction was made and referred to Congress to do something about it or not - a political process, as you damned well know.

Mueller could not indict a sitting president in his opinion - which is why he did not refer the case to the Attorney General.

And Rosenstein had nothing to do with the conclusion.

You fit into your party so well, Ward.

Lie, deny, and obfuscate.

It's all you do.

[josh]

Paulie K, telling it like it is:

Never mind attempts to spin this story as somehow not meeting some definitions of collusion or obstruction of justice. The fact is that the occupant of the White House betrayed his country. And the question everyone is asking is, what will Democrats do about it?

But notice that the question is only about Democrats. Everyone (correctly) takes it as a given that Republicans will do nothing. Why?

Because the modern G.O.P. is perfectly willing to sell out America if that’s what it takes to get tax cuts for the wealthy. Republicans may not think of it in those terms, but that’s what their behavior amounts to.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/22/opinion/trump-republican-party.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

How easy it is for the Times’ prince of darkness to spout his take. He neglects the dilemmas of the d’s.
The d’s  DOJ favorites, Mueller and Rosenstein,  could not make cases for collusion or obstruction even  with a staff of dem donors and Hillary supporters. Add in that the dem House majority contains a slew of red state reps who face re-election next year.

Your response proves Krugman's point.

No.  I made my own points.

Sure. Your points illustrated Krugman's point.

Your points are self-deceptive and intended to deceive others, but fail miserably.

[arafura]

Our ally Saudia Arabia:   37 beheadings today and one head and body displayed in public as a warning. 

Surprised Trump and Pence didn't go to watch.  Probably got the live stream from their butcher friend MbS.

Death penalty...the State execution-slaughtering human beings.
Lead them to the death 'chamber' alive, and 'drag' them out dead.

Majority of Americans seem to approve.
'Payback', 'revenge', 'justice', 'evil must be punished'.

[josh]

Our ally Saudia Arabia:   37 beheadings today and one head and body displayed in public as a warning. 

Surprised Trump and Pence didn't go to watch.  Probably got the live stream from their butcher friend MbS.

Death penalty...the State execution-slaughtering human beings.
Lead them to the death 'chamber' alive, and 'drag' them out dead.

Majority of Americans seem to approve.
'Payback', 'revenge', 'justice', 'evil must be punished'.

Kind of like you, despite your protestations to the contrary, whether those lying cheating women or those evil Muslims and terrible immigrants.

[josh]

https://thenextweb.com/syndication/2018/12/23/the-internet-is-toxic-because-humans-are-toxic/

Pretty much nails it.

[arafura]

Once upon a time, in a far off land called Australia, the State used to hang people, decapitating them.
They hanged Ned Kelly.
They put his head on display.
Someone stole his severed head.

Where is Ned's head?
Who knows?

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/where-is-ned-kellys-skull-bushrangers-missing-head-remains-a-mystery/news-story/a8fdb0f09038d54fd4e84382c1aff611

Where is Ned Kelly’s skull? Bushranger’s missing head remains a mystery

#####

bambu-ilk had the State's power to execution-slaughter human beings, removed.

[josh]

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/apr/23/greta-thunberg-full-speech-to-mps-you-did-not-act-in-time

Pretty much nails it.

[kiidcarter8]

"Everybody is being skipped by most Democrats"

Not sure what this means.  Do they all have their mind made up already on their primary vote?

It means that among those who have chosen, 18 of 19 are being skipped and among those who have not chosen, (a) many are being explicitly skipped and (b) generally all of them are skipped

heh

[arafura]

Our ally Saudia Arabia:   37 beheadings today and one head and body displayed in public as a warning. 

Surprised Trump and Pence didn't go to watch.  Probably got the live stream from their butcher friend MbS.

Death penalty...the State execution-slaughtering human beings.
Lead them to the death 'chamber' alive, and 'drag' them out dead.

Majority of Americans seem to approve.
'Payback', 'revenge', 'justice', 'evil must be punished'.

Kind of like you, despite your protestations to the contrary, whether those lying cheating women or those evil Muslims and terrible immigrants.

Time, isn't it, that the majority of Americans stopped approving of death chambers?
Time, isn't it, that you stopped approving of lying women trying to have men wrongly-convicted and tossed in prison?
Time, isn't it, that you stopped believing that "all Muslims are lovely people"?
Time, isn't it, that you stopped believing in 'open borders' and that "all immigrants whether illegal or legal are lovely people"?

[REDSTATEWARD]

Paulie K, telling it like it is:

Never mind attempts to spin this story as somehow not meeting some definitions of collusion or obstruction of justice. The fact is that the occupant of the White House betrayed his country. And the question everyone is asking is, what will Democrats do about it?

But notice that the question is only about Democrats. Everyone (correctly) takes it as a given that Republicans will do nothing. Why?

Because the modern G.O.P. is perfectly willing to sell out America if that’s what it takes to get tax cuts for the wealthy. Republicans may not think of it in those terms, but that’s what their behavior amounts to.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/22/opinion/trump-republican-party.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

Mueller and Rosenstein could not make cases for collusion or obstruction

Talk about a misrepresentation of what Mueller did.

The case for obstruction was made and referred to Congress to do something about it or not - a political process, as you damned well know.

Congress can always " do something" as per the Constitution.It has its own investigative powers and the power to impeach. 

Mueller could not indict a sitting president in his opinion - which is why he did not refer the case to the Attorney General.

He left that decision to the Attorney General. Barr conferred with Rod Rosenstein and concluded there was no obstruction.
It is interesting to note that senior leadership of the dems, based on the Mueller Report, find no impeachable charge but want more work by the House investigative committees.