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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13110 on: April 26, 2019, 05:16:58 PM »

A member of the independent counsel team that recommended the impeachment of President Bill Clinton says that President Trump’s attempts to obstruct justice are “blunter by a thousandfold” than anything Clinton did and more than justifies the House Judiciary Committee opening impeachment proceedings.

So what are the dems waiting for?
Enough Republicans to put country over party to make it plausible. Not that this will happen.
Ah.
In the meantime they will talk about giving convicted murderers the right to vote,  have more conversations about reparations, discuss medicare for all, the green new deal, put bankers in jail, bust up large agricultural corporations, send tons of federal money to states to double teacher salaries,buy every baby a bond, forgive student debt and, of course, tax only the rich to pay for it all.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13111 on: April 26, 2019, 05:33:32 PM »

Trump changes his mind in the right direction, for a change.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/26/politics/donald-trump-measles-vaccines/

Has always been in favor of vaccines and is now appropriately advising that those not vaccinated AT ALL get it done.

You need to better inform yourself about the man you worship, kiidcarter8.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-donald-trump-repeatedly-claim-vaccines-cause-autism-they-dont/
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"When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."  -  The impeached "president" on Feb 27, 2020

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13112 on: April 26, 2019, 05:34:06 PM »

A member of the independent counsel team that recommended the impeachment of President Bill Clinton says that President Trump’s attempts to obstruct justice are “blunter by a thousandfold” than anything Clinton did and more than justifies the House Judiciary Committee opening impeachment proceedings.

So what are the dems waiting for?

With every post on this subject you prove Krugman's point.
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"When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."  -  The impeached "president" on Feb 27, 2020

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13113 on: April 26, 2019, 05:55:39 PM »

A member of the independent counsel team that recommended the impeachment of President Bill Clinton says that President Trump’s attempts to obstruct justice are “blunter by a thousandfold” than anything Clinton did and more than justifies the House Judiciary Committee opening impeachment proceedings.

So what are the dems waiting for?
With every post on this subject you prove Krugman's point.
LOL
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13114 on: April 26, 2019, 06:10:00 PM »

A member of the independent counsel team that recommended the impeachment of President Bill Clinton says that President Trump’s attempts to obstruct justice are “blunter by a thousandfold” than anything Clinton did and more than justifies the House Judiciary Committee opening impeachment proceedings.

So what are the dems waiting for?
LOL
With every post on this subject you prove Krugman's point.

Question:  Isn’t it on the beneficiary of Russian interference to come out and say publicly “I don’t want the help, its counter to our democratic interests, and I will in no way use or reference material stolen by Russia, or reward their meddling once in office.” 
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"When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."  -  The impeached "president" on Feb 27, 2020

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« Reply #13115 on: April 26, 2019, 06:10:49 PM »

A member of the independent counsel team that recommended the impeachment of President Bill Clinton says that President Trump’s attempts to obstruct justice are “blunter by a thousandfold” than anything Clinton did and more than justifies the House Judiciary Committee opening impeachment proceedings.

So what are the dems waiting for?
Enough Republicans to put country over party to make it plausible. Not that this will happen.

I think what REDSTATEWARD is jonesing to point out is that Impeachment doesn’t poll well.  But it didn’t poll well for Nixon either, before Congress started its investigation.

It certainly didn’t poll well for Clinton but the GOP did it anyway.  Of course, there it was less about duty to the Constitution (their premise was largely ridiculous) and more about politically dinging a popular President.  The Starr report was also specifically written as an impeachment referral, giving them the cover they needed, where the Mueller report (which unlike Starr’s investigation, and despite Trump’s protestations to the contrary) did not originate as a partisan hit-job.

If Democrats thought impeachment would get any kind of hearing in the Senate, they would go forward with it.  As it is, the calculation may be that it isn’t worth (possibly) paying a political price to make a symbolic stand.  Trump’s best (and probably only) chance at winning 2020 would be a massive mobilization of his base, and his playing the victim of a “Deep State coup” attempt would be one way that happens.  But even then, the Democrats are far from unified behind the cautious route.   Also worth noting, the more Trump refuses any kind of House oversight, the more he makes a case for his removal, and the less it seems like the Dems are just out to get him.

But the focus is on “what will the Democrats do” when it should be on the Republicans and their lies and abdication of duty.  They are now going all in on the “President’s” call to investigate the investigators when they know full well (Lindsay Graham certainly does) that the Mueller Investigation was 100% legitimate at its birth, and was implemented in a 100% professional and nonpartisan way.   

Which is what Trump thought too when he thought the report exonerated him, and the focus then was Adam Schiff.  Suddenly its back to the 13 angry Democrats routine, lol.
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"When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."  -  The impeached "president" on Feb 27, 2020

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« Reply #13116 on: April 26, 2019, 06:37:50 PM »

A member of the independent counsel team that recommended the impeachment of President Bill Clinton says that President Trump’s attempts to obstruct justice are “blunter by a thousandfold” than anything Clinton did and more than justifies the House Judiciary Committee opening impeachment proceedings.

So what are the dems waiting for?
Enough Republicans to put country over party to make it plausible. Not that this will happen.

I think what REDSTATEWARD is jonesing to point out is that Impeachment doesn’t poll well. 
I suggest you stick to making your points(if any) and refrain from interpreting mine.
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If Democrats thought impeachment would get any kind of hearing in the Senate, they would go forward with it.  As it is, the calculation may be that it isn’t worth (possibly) paying a political price to make a symbolic stand. 
A symbolic stand? Impeachment has been the dems' goal since November of 2016.
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Trump’s best (and probably only) chance at winning 2020 would be a massive mobilization of his base, and his playing the victim of a “Deep State coup” attempt would be one way that happens.  But even then, the Democrats are far from unified behind the cautious route.   Also worth noting, the more Trump refuses any kind of House oversight, the more he makes a case for his removal, and the less it seems like the Dems are just out to get him.
That may be the most incoherent statement you have ever written/
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But the focus is on “what will the Democrats do” when it should be on the Republicans and their lies and abdication of duty.  They are now going all in on the “President’s” call to investigate the investigators when they know full well (Lindsay Graham certainly does) that the Mueller Investigation was 100% legitimate at its birth, and was implemented in a 100% professional and nonpartisan way.   
What we know now is the Mueller investigation was based on a fraud that began in early 2016 instigated by Barack Obama and Joe Biden.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13117 on: April 26, 2019, 06:44:14 PM »

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/at-72-trump-says-hes-a-young-vibrant-man-can-beat-biden/ar-BBWkcOe?li=AAgfYrC&OCID=AVRES000

At 72, Trump says he's 'a young vibrant man,' can beat Biden

President Donald Trump says he feels "young" and "vibrant" at age 72 and thinks he can beat 76-year-old Joe Biden "easily."
A reporter asked Trump at the White House on Friday how old is too old to be president of the United States.

Trump said: "I just feel like a young man. I'm so young. I can't believe it. ... I'm a young vibrant man."


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At 72, we are the same age. O how I wish I were so young and vibrant, like he is.


 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13118 on: April 26, 2019, 06:58:59 PM »

Trump changes his mind in the right direction, for a change.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/26/politics/donald-trump-measles-vaccines/

Has always been in favor of vaccines and is now appropriately advising that those not vaccinated AT ALL get it done.

https://www.statnews.com/2015/09/18/trump-backs-autism-group-that-rejects-his-views/

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  For years Donald Trump has been publicly pushing the notion, which the scientific community has widely discredited, that vaccines cause autism. He did it again at Wednesday’s GOP presidential debate, telling a story about a child who he said got vaccinated, then “got a tremendous fever, got very, very sick, now is autistic.” 


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13119 on: April 26, 2019, 07:02:06 PM »

Trump changes his mind in the right direction, for a change.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/26/politics/donald-trump-measles-vaccines/

Has always been in favor of vaccines and is now appropriately advising that those not vaccinated AT ALL get it done.

Trump has claimed that vaccines cause autism. He's offered a couple statements on it over the years, varying from direct connection to claiming that the speed/size of the vaccine was responsible.

You, Kiid, are almost as full of shit as he is and has been.
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« Reply #13120 on: April 26, 2019, 07:18:11 PM »

Trump also claimed that he’s young and vibrant, that he won in 2016, and has the best words. No one believes any of this.

Meanwhile

http://www.emptywheel.net/2019/04/22/the-significance-of-trumps-obstruction-of-his-familys-campaign-finance-crimes-plural/
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« Reply #13121 on: April 26, 2019, 07:35:11 PM »

What we know now is the Mueller investigation was based on a fraud that began in early 2016

The fraud was already 70 years old in 2016 and was even then already decaying rapidly.

And you really mean exposed when you say instigated.

Follow your fraud, Red. It’s not much dumber than anything else you do with your life.
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« Reply #13122 on: April 26, 2019, 07:40:06 PM »

Trump changes his mind in the right direction, for a change.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/26/politics/donald-trump-measles-vaccines/

Has always been in favor of vaccines and is now appropriately advising that those not vaccinated AT ALL get it done.

You need to better inform yourself about the man you worship, kiidcarter8.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-donald-trump-repeatedly-claim-vaccines-cause-autism-they-dont/

Its right in the article.  Vaccinate in smaller doses.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13123 on: April 26, 2019, 08:20:50 PM »

A member of the independent counsel team that recommended the impeachment of President Bill Clinton says that President Trump’s attempts to obstruct justice are “blunter by a thousandfold” than anything Clinton did and more than justifies the House Judiciary Committee opening impeachment proceedings.

So what are the dems waiting for?
Enough Republicans to put country over party to make it plausible. Not that this will happen.
Ah.
In the meantime they will talk about giving convicted murderers the right to vote,  have more conversations about reparations, discuss medicare for all, the green new deal, put bankers in jail, bust up large agricultural corporations, send tons of federal money to states to double teacher salaries,buy every baby a bond, forgive student debt and, of course, tax only the rich to pay for it all.
The work of the nation will go on parallel to the 8nvestigations, if that is what you mean.
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« Reply #13124 on: April 26, 2019, 08:26:21 PM »

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