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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13350 on: May 02, 2019, 01:25:20 PM »

Further Barr testified that Mueller had no objections to the facts  in the summary, found none inaccurate, which Barr added was also confirmed by Mueller on a phone call.

This is Barr's recall of a telephone conversation.  Certainly he would have no reason to misrepresent its nature.  Right?  Yeah.  And nothing suspicious about his refusal to let Democrats see the notes from that call.

The problem, again, for the gems is that they have no evidence of any lie by Barr, the same evidence of Collusioin-as in NONE.

Mueller outlined lots of evidence of collusion.  You, apparently, have read as much of the report as Barr has, who was unaware yesterday that the Trump Campaign shared internal polling with a Russian middle-man.

The Washington Post survey just found support for impeachment of Trump is at 37%( it was 49% in August). Ditto in the numbers for Independents- 36% against 49% in August.  The Post's poll numbers reflect others by CNN and NPR.
Ludicrous calls by dems for Barr to resign over yesterday's Senate testimony only reflect their disappointment with the Mueller Report.  I imagine Trump is wishing that impeachment talk continues.

And then we get to "the polls prove me right!"  Knew you were itching to get into that.

Polling on Nixon's impeachment was low before the actual proceedings began.  Democratic leadership is approaching impeachment of Trump with caution, naturally some Democrats are going to pick up that message.  None of that says anything about whether or not impeachment is warranted.
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« Reply #13351 on: May 02, 2019, 01:55:25 PM »

Further Barr testified that Mueller had no objections to the facts  in the summary, found none inaccurate, which Barr added was also confirmed by Mueller on a phone call.

This is Barr's recall of a telephone conversation.  Certainly he would have no reason to misrepresent its nature.  Right?  Yeah.  And nothing suspicious about his refusal to let Democrats see the notes from that call.
He testified to the phone call under oath. 

The problem, again, for the dems is that they have no evidence of any lie by Barr, the same evidence of Collusioin-as in NONE.

Mueller outlined lots of evidence of collusion.  You, apparently, have read as much of the report as Barr has, who was unaware yesterday that the Trump Campaign shared internal polling with a Russian middle-man.
Well, believe what you want to believe. 

The Washington Post survey just found support for impeachment of Trump is at 37%( it was 49% in August). Ditto in the numbers for Independents- 36% against 49% in August.  The Post's poll numbers reflect others by CNN and NPR.
Ludicrous calls by dems for Barr to resign over yesterday's Senate testimony only reflect their disappointment with the Mueller Report.  I imagine Trump is wishing that impeachment talk continues.

And then we get to "the polls prove me right!"  Knew you were itching to get into that.

Polling on Nixon's impeachment was low before the actual proceedings began.  Democratic leadership is approaching impeachment of Trump with caution, naturally some Democrats are going to pick up that message.  None of that says anything about whether or not impeachment is warranted.
Not my call.  One way or the other.  But the politicians who have to face the voters pay attention to the opinion winds.
If Impeachment talk( complete with daily cables news interviews with Adam Schiff, Eric Swalwel, Elijah Cummings, and
Maxine Waters)drowns out the work of the democrats' legislative goals and the candidates' issues 2020 might not turn out the way you hope.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13352 on: May 02, 2019, 02:06:00 PM »

He testified to the phone call under oath. 

Uh huh.  And I'm sure the DOJ will be making Mueller available to testify any day now.

Well, believe what you want to believe. 

The AG whose opinion you parrot to declare that there was "no collusion" was apparently unaware of one of the key episodes outlined in Mueller's report that pointed to collusion.  This is not a matter of belief, but fact, played out on our TVs yesterday.

Not my call.  One way or the other.  But the politicians who have to face the voters pay attention to the opinion winds.

True.  They do.  Sometimes to the detriment of our Democracy. 
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« Reply #13353 on: May 02, 2019, 02:39:32 PM »

Further Barr testified that Mueller had no objections to the facts  in the summary, found none inaccurate, which Barr added was also confirmed by Mueller on a phone call.

This is Barr's recall of a telephone conversation.  Certainly he would have no reason to misrepresent its nature.  Right?  Yeah.  And nothing suspicious about his refusal to let Democrats see the notes from that call.

The problem, again, for the gems is that they have no evidence of any lie by Barr, the same evidence of Collusioin-as in NONE.

Mueller outlined lots of evidence of collusion.  You, apparently, have read as much of the report as Barr has, who was unaware yesterday that the Trump Campaign shared internal polling with a Russian middle-man.

The Washington Post survey just found support for impeachment of Trump is at 37%( it was 49% in August). Ditto in the numbers for Independents- 36% against 49% in August.  The Post's poll numbers reflect others by CNN and NPR.
Ludicrous calls by dems for Barr to resign over yesterday's Senate testimony only reflect their disappointment with the Mueller Report.  I imagine Trump is wishing that impeachment talk continues.

And then we get to "the polls prove me right!"  Knew you were itching to get into that.

Polling on Nixon's impeachment was low before the actual proceedings began.  Democratic leadership is approaching impeachment of Trump with caution, naturally some Democrats are going to pick up that message.  None of that says anything about whether or not impeachment is warranted.

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« Reply #13354 on: May 02, 2019, 02:51:09 PM »

He testified to the phone call under oath. 

Uh huh.  And I'm sure the DOJ will be making Mueller available to testify any day now.
Mueller does not need DOJ approval to speak for himself.

Well, believe what you want to believe. 
The AG whose opinion you parrot to declare that there was "no collusion" was apparently unaware of one of the key episodes outlined in Mueller's report that pointed to collusion.  This is not a matter of belief, but fact, played out on our TVs yesterday.
It was on TV? Well that settles it. LOL

Not my call.  One way or the other.  But the politicians who have to face the voters pay attention to the opinion winds.
True.  They do.  Sometimes to the detriment of our Democracy.
Wait! The polls were conducted by TV networks! How can you disagree?
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« Reply #13355 on: May 02, 2019, 03:01:24 PM »

Mueller does not need DOJ approval to speak for himself.

Mueller is a DOJ employee.  The request for his testimony has gone through the DOJ, and its on the DOJ to set a date.  Thus far, they have not.

It was on TV? Well that settles it.

Yes, the hearing was carried live on TV.  Strange that you are unaware of that.  You must really reside in your own FOX bubble.

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« Reply #13356 on: May 02, 2019, 03:11:19 PM »

Mueller does not need DOJ approval to speak for himself.

Mueller is a DOJ employee.  The request for his testimony has gone through the DOJ, and its on the DOJ to set a date.  Thus far, they have not.
Oh. So the DOJ approved the leaked Mueller letter of March 27?

It was on TV? Well that settles it.

Yes, the hearing was carried live on TV.  Strange that you are unaware of that.  You must really reside in your own FOX bubble.
Oh  I see. The hearings have competing opinions.  The ones you agree are the 'facts' in your world.
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« Reply #13357 on: May 02, 2019, 03:19:28 PM »

Regarding Barr's evasive and misleading testimony yesterday.

I think it only fair for Sen Graham to schedule a future hearing to allow for adequate time for Generalisimo Barr to read the Mueller Report/ Perhaps he can get through a few questions without perjuring himself.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13358 on: May 02, 2019, 03:24:29 PM »



https://exjournalistsunite.wordpress.com/2019/05/02/so-what-if-barr-wont-testify-today-weve-already-seen-all-we-need-to-see/

Yes, agreed

The report is public, after all.

Good to see them generating so much cash from its sale

heh

The FACT the AG lied to Congress is just not a big deal, huh?
What was the lie?

Which time?

When he claimed to not know what Mueller's thoughts were on Barr's 4 page memo? How about that one. It's hardly the only one.

Goold old disingenuous Ward. Lie, deny, and obfuscate.
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« Reply #13359 on: May 02, 2019, 03:30:15 PM »

Very very small potatoes

But rock on.
Comparde to "I did not have sexual relations with that woman?"

The bullshit is all yours and Ward's.
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« Reply #13360 on: May 02, 2019, 03:36:18 PM »



Barr was unflappable yesterday

"I'm trying to struggle with the word "suggest."

Unflappable?!

The man admitted he concluded there was no evidence of obstruction without having looked at the evidence!
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« Reply #13361 on: May 02, 2019, 03:53:24 PM »

Barr’s son in law is an employee of the White House Counsel’s office. His back tatoo of Richard Nixon’s dick head has almost healed.

There are criminals who occasionally find their way into the Democratic party and its politics.

The republican party is a criminal organization tip to tail. It needs to be subdued and expunged.
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« Reply #13362 on: May 02, 2019, 03:58:35 PM »

In language Red can understand

CHICKEN BARR

RAT TRUMP

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« Reply #13363 on: May 02, 2019, 04:49:39 PM »

Further Barr testified that Mueller had no objections to the facts  in the summary, found none inaccurate, which Barr added was also confirmed by Mueller on a phone call.

This is Barr's recall of a telephone conversation.  Certainly he would have no reason to misrepresent its nature.  Right?  Yeah.  And nothing suspicious about his refusal to let Democrats see the notes from that call.
He testified to the phone call under oath. 

The problem, again, for the dems is that they have no evidence of any lie by Barr, the same evidence of Collusioin-as in NONE.

Mueller outlined lots of evidence of collusion.  You, apparently, have read as much of the report as Barr has, who was unaware yesterday that the Trump Campaign shared internal polling with a Russian middle-man.
Well, believe what you want to believe. 

The Washington Post survey just found support for impeachment of Trump is at 37%( it was 49% in August). Ditto in the numbers for Independents- 36% against 49% in August.  The Post's poll numbers reflect others by CNN and NPR.
Ludicrous calls by dems for Barr to resign over yesterday's Senate testimony only reflect their disappointment with the Mueller Report.  I imagine Trump is wishing that impeachment talk continues.

And then we get to "the polls prove me right!"  Knew you were itching to get into that.

Polling on Nixon's impeachment was low before the actual proceedings began.  Democratic leadership is approaching impeachment of Trump with caution, naturally some Democrats are going to pick up that message.  None of that says anything about whether or not impeachment is warranted.
Not my call.  One way or the other.  But the politicians who have to face the voters pay attention to the opinion winds.
If Impeachment talk( complete with daily cables news interviews with Adam Schiff, Eric Swalwel, Elijah Cummings, and
Maxine Waters)drowns out the work of the democrats' legislative goals and the candidates' issues 2020 might not turn out the way you hope.

You’re delusional but that’s ok.

Barr gave up any pretense of being the attorney for the United States and proved he is in essence the defense attorney for the President. Any investigation in which he exercises supervision is tainted because of his naked display of partisanship.

But in assisting in the cover up of the cover up he has moved all this shit from the realm of politics to a matter of law.

Yeah, y’all want an Impeachment so you can gnash your teeth and wail about the unfairness of ir all... we’ll all that shirt tearing ain’t flying Slick.

Nope. Now it’s Democrsts moving legislative policies that will help people through the House so the GOP can kill those bills in the Senate. Meanwhile the hearings follow the ‘roadmap” drawn by Mueller because these are investigations of fucking crimes. If Trump wasn’t President he’d be trying to cut a deal to live out his life in a nice prison.

Because now you’re giving the voters a choice... a country ruled by law or a pseudo monarchy dictatorship?

60% is a lot more than 40%.
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« Reply #13364 on: May 02, 2019, 05:40:48 PM »

Oh. So the DOJ approved the leaked Mueller letter of March 27?

Not sure what you are trying to say here.  No Mueller does not need permission to send an interdepartmental letter.  Yes Mueller testimony to Congress is requested and scheduled through the DOJ.  If this is still not getting through to you, you are being purposefully obtuse.

Oh  I see. The hearings have competing opinions.  The ones you agree are the 'facts' in your world.

Barr was asked a question, and he clearly did not know the underlying facts behind the question.  This was not an opinion expressed by one side or the other.  Barr did not know facts as laid out in the report.  And this happened more than once.
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