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Voting closed: March 29, 2019, 11:59:24 PM


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josh

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13905 on: May 19, 2019, 03:26:37 AM »

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/16/mark-morgan-eyes-ice-director-1449570?fbclid=IwAR21SyUvoToG1K5j-G_6uizkn70_9e20-DgDFze6pnv68FXegrsm5JwTuHM

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“I’ve been to detention facilities where I’ve walked up to these individuals that are so-called minors, 17 or under,” Morgan said on “Tucker Carlson Tonight” in January. “I’ve looked at them and I’ve looked at their eyes, Tucker — and I’ve said that is a soon-to-be MS-13 gang member. It’s unequivocal.”

Ah, the old "I looked in their eyes" trick for establishing guilt without commission of a crime. No computer needed.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13906 on: May 19, 2019, 09:00:26 AM »

Australia goes conservative

---Australia's shock election results are drawing comparisons to Trump's 2016 win---

https://www.businessinsider.com/australian-election-results-prime-minister-morrisons-shock-victory-results-2019-5

Must be the Russians? Everyone loves the illegal migrants.
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josh

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13907 on: May 19, 2019, 09:54:38 AM »

Australia goes conservative

---Australia's shock election results are drawing comparisons to Trump's 2016 win---

https://www.businessinsider.com/australian-election-results-prime-minister-morrisons-shock-victory-results-2019-5

Must be the Russians? Everyone loves the illegal migrants.

I liked the juxtaposition between the end of the article and the link to another one:

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Morrison's unexpected victory doesn't exactly spell a certain future for conservative control of the country, as it's still unclear if politicians close to Morrison can pass policy with an outright majority or will need to court independents for support.

SEE ALSO: Only 80,000 koalas remain in the world, rendering them 'functionally extinct' — another victim of the 6th mass extinction

Can't be the climate, right folks?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13908 on: May 19, 2019, 11:30:18 AM »


Yep, a few college grads who couldn’t afford their rent had a good idea and worked it. They saw a niche market and they filled it.

Yeah, everyone should do that.
Well, at least you now understand how AIRBNB was founded and succeeded.
Inovation and hard work.

A sick twisted reactionary real estate system catering to money launderers and tax cheats makes AirBNB possible, putting some money in the pockets of those with excess property and crowding out renters. AirBNB’s value as a company is dependent on conditions that drive people to or keep people in homelessness.

Yes.  Really hurting affordable rentals.  And open to nasty scamming. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/reader-center/airbnb-new-york-city.html



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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13909 on: May 19, 2019, 11:59:46 AM »


Yep, a few college grads who couldn’t afford their rent had a good idea and worked it. They saw a niche market and they filled it.

Yeah, everyone should do that.
Well, at least you now understand how AIRBNB was founded and succeeded.
Inovation and hard work.

A sick twisted reactionary real estate system catering to money launderers and tax cheats makes AirBNB possible, putting some money in the pockets of those with excess property and crowding out renters. AirBNB’s value as a company is dependent on conditions that drive people to or keep people in homelessness.

Yes.  Really hurting affordable rentals.  And open to nasty scamming. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/reader-center/airbnb-new-york-city.html
Wonder of all wonders.  Someone cheated.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13910 on: May 19, 2019, 12:45:16 PM »

Just pay your taxes for once, Red. It won’t kill you.
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josh

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13911 on: May 19, 2019, 12:48:40 PM »

Just pay your taxes for once, Red. It won’t kill you.

Ward is still puzzled by how luck can be a factor in somebody's success, since he is sure that hard work and good ideas are enough to succeed in life.

Then again, he also still doesn't get metaphors.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13912 on: May 19, 2019, 12:55:53 PM »

Just pay your taxes for once, Red. It won’t kill you.

Ward is still puzzled by how luck can be a factor in somebody's success, since he is sure that hard work and good ideas are enough to succeed in life.
What luck?

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13913 on: May 19, 2019, 01:11:52 PM »

https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/schooled2lose/

It's not how hard you work.

It's how wealthy your familiy is.
Check out the story of Airbnb.
For starters.

Ward, people win the lottery. We know that. It's not news. But if hard work were all it took, there would be many more billionaires than there are. The evidence is in. It has been in for at least 80 years, when the first study I know of illustrated the fact that the best predictor of educational attainment was father's income. Not his or mom's education level. Not the kids' or parents' intelligence. Not where they lived or how many siblings they had. Income.

There have been changes since then, with the lower percentage of nuclear families as one of the factors. But the role of SES in educational attainment is stronger than ever, whether you like it or not.
Ok.
Don’t check out Airbnb.

It doesn't require "checking out," Ward. It's been very much in the public eye.
Obviously your eyes don't work.

Weak sauce, sister.
That you are.  AIRBNB is not a rags to riches story, a tale of inherited wealth,  or connected in any way to winning a lottery.
It is a multi billion dollar business built by the persistence of a couple of college grads who turned turned unused spaces into
a worldwide chain of rentable rooms in 81,000+ cites.

Yeah, and?
You jumped into a discussion you did not understand.

Coming from "or connected in any way to winning a lottery" Ward, that is a hilarious statement.

You seldom understand discussions you are in, especially those with metaphors in them.
You brought up the lottery, not me.
You took a metaphor literally. You either lack the capacity for abstract thought or are an intellectually dishonest tool deliberately being an ass for private amusement. Since these are not mutually exclusive alternatives,  I retain the possibility of your being both.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13914 on: May 19, 2019, 02:54:31 PM »


You took a metaphor literally. You either lack the capacity for abstract thought or are an intellectually dishonest tool deliberately being an ass for private amusement. Since these are not mutually exclusive alternatives,  I retain the possibility of your being both.
LOL
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josh

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13915 on: May 19, 2019, 03:29:40 PM »


You took a metaphor literally. You either lack the capacity for abstract thought or are an intellectually dishonest tool deliberately being an ass for private amusement. Since these are not mutually exclusive alternatives,  I retain the possibility of your being both.
LOL

Translation of Ward's LOL = "I have no idea what you mean by 'took a metaphor literally,' but won't admit it."
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josh

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13916 on: May 19, 2019, 03:37:16 PM »

Australia goes conservative
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Must be the Russians? Everyone loves the illegal migrants.

I was thinking about this some more.

a) Did the new PM's team meet multiple times with the Russians?

b) Did the new PM, on national television, request the Russians' help?

c) Did the election result settle on 1% or less of the vote in 3 states?

d) Did Australia's intelligence and security agencies report that the Russians had tried to (and in some cases succeeded in) hack the election?

No? Then it was probably not the Russians.

But then there's this:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/19/opinions/austria-freedom-party-scandal-eu-election-andelman/index.html

So, maybe it was the Russians.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13917 on: May 19, 2019, 03:48:57 PM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13918 on: May 19, 2019, 04:25:26 PM »

Migrant children have heartbeats too?
Of course they do.

Trouble is, ...not every child and adult in Mexico, Central America, Africa, South America, Middle East, North Asia, Sth Asia, SE Asia etc can be moved into USA to live.
It simply can't happen.
There have to be limits.
America takes in the number it can afford.
The rest?...it's a cruel, cruel world out there. People born on garbage dumps, live on garbage dumps their whole lives, fossick for food there, sleep there, maybe raise kids there as well.

The down and out, the homeless [imagine being homeless in the snow and then the dirty, icy slush full of cigarette butts and litter], poor who don't know where their next meal is coming from...in America have heartbeats too.

The United States government took children from legal asylum applicant, transported them, and intentionally did not track where they were taken or to whom they were given, to prevent their being returned to their families.


Which, if true, was totally the wrong thing to do.

Mythology

The mass of ordinary Germans did know about the evolving terror of Hitler's Holocaust, according to a new research study. They knew concentration camps were full of Jewish people who were stigmatised as sub-human and race-defilers. They knew that these, like other groups and minorities, were being killed out of hand.

They knew that Adolf Hitler had repeatedly forecast the extermination of every Jew on German soil. They knew these details because they had read about them. They knew because the camps and the measures which led up to them had been prominently and proudly reported step by step in thousands of officially-inspired German media articles and posters according to the study, which is due to be published simultaneously in Britain and the US early next month and which was described as ground-breaking by Oxford University Press yesterday and already hailed by other historians.

The reports, in newspapers and magazines all over the country were phases in a public process of "desensitisation" which worked all too well, culminating in the killing of 6m Jews, says Robert Gellately. His book, Backing Hitler, is based on the first systematic analysis by a historian of surviving German newspaper and magazine archives since 1933, the year Hitler became chancellor. The survey took hundreds of hours and yielded dozens of folders of photocopies, many of them from the 24 main newspapers and magazines of the period.


 https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/feb/17/johnezard

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