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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14895 on: June 10, 2019, 01:34:55 AM »

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/18/bikers-bring-30-000-meals-new-mexico-migrants-facility/3726760002/

We should not be needing the bikers to bring food to our concentration camps. The government should be taking care of it. That they are not is beyond criminal negligence.

The government does take care of it... they contract with the company that operates the detention centers. This is the root of the immigration problem; MONEY.

All this talk about Kushner and the GOP leading on Criminal Justice Reform is a smokescreen for a shift in the markets in the Prison Industrial Complex.

Obama began phasing out the private prison corporations so they had to find a new market. Trump came down the escalator yapping about Mexico not sending their best and the PIC poured tons of money into Trump’s campaign and they “won” the contracts for immigration detention centers.

Brown Invasion?

KA-CHING!

Suckers.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14896 on: June 10, 2019, 02:50:23 AM »

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_vault/2014/06/17/interactive_map_loss_of_indian_land.html?wpsrc=sh_all_mob_fb_top

These are a few years old, now, but present wonderful time-elapse maps, with adjustments available to the user.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14897 on: June 10, 2019, 03:06:25 AM »

https://theintercept.com/2019/03/07/nypd-rape-charges-dropped-anna-chambers/

Sure, they handcuffed and raped the teenager in their van. And yeah, they lied about it and tried to claim it was consensual.

But that's no reason to take it to court!
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14898 on: June 10, 2019, 03:09:42 AM »

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/18/bikers-bring-30-000-meals-new-mexico-migrants-facility/3726760002/

We should not be needing the bikers to bring food to our concentration camps. The government should be taking care of it. That they are not is beyond criminal negligence.

The government does take care of it... they contract with the company that operates the detention centers. This is the root of the immigration problem; MONEY.

All this talk about Kushner and the GOP leading on Criminal Justice Reform is a smokescreen for a shift in the markets in the Prison Industrial Complex.

Obama began phasing out the private prison corporations so they had to find a new market. Trump came down the escalator yapping about Mexico not sending their best and the PIC poured tons of money into Trump’s campaign and they “won” the contracts for immigration detention centers.

Brown Invasion?

KA-CHING!

Suckers.

Middle East peace?

CADRE-CHING!

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/10/jared-kushner-real-estate-cadre-goldman-sachs

If they made it more complicated they might miss out on opportunities to accept bribes, the whole point of their attack on America in the first place.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14899 on: June 10, 2019, 11:04:11 AM »

For those who think this warming of the Earth is just part of the normal cycle, a repost:
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-whats-warming-the-world/?fbclid=IwAR3ubzlFGxX-t3gMQnwHWYxuijPtncPy5dA-gZeqqotPDtr42V6g2Y6qlHI
Why isn't it a normal cycle?  Why did you limit the graph to a time period that is so limited?

1880 to the present is the period for which scientists have consistently gathered global climate data.  (but ice cores and analysis of geological strata and fossil composition also helps to unearth longer trends in the past)  Science uses a curve and then extrapolates from that, and compares the curve to other variables than temperature.   It is possible to spot trends when you have over a century of measurements.   This is how our present rise in surface temps and changes in storm systems, seawater temps and currents, glacier and ice cap shrinkage, etc. were all predicted back in the 70s and 80s. 

It's the same scientific method that allows us to know that sunspots have regular cycles, even though we haven't had astronomers with telescopes keeping records for 20,000 years.  Or that whales are mammals that evolved from land based herbivores, even though we don't have time machines that carry us back millions of years.  Inference and extrapolation are basic tools of science, the science you trust when you step onto a jet or undergo brain surgery.   I'll bet, if your daughter needed such surgery, you would choose the neurologist who attended Johns Hopkins, not the science denier who went to Oral Roberts University, College of Faith Healing.
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Oral Roberts does not train Neurologists .
Kinda destroys any credibility you assert(as in none)

Way to entirely miss the point, and ignore the answer I provided (from an actual scientist).   Of course ORU doesn't train neurologists.  That was the contrast I was trying to provide, to illustrate that you, like most people, do have some confidence that science works and that it matters when human lives at stake.   

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« Reply #14900 on: June 10, 2019, 11:22:40 AM »

About those cycles attributed to, you know, 'scientists'.
Lake Aerie and  Superior  — broke records for water levels this May. Lakes Michigan and Huron could follow suit.

Naturally, climate change is getting the blame. “We are undoubtedly observing the effects of a warming climate in the Great Lakes,” says Richard Rood, a University of Michigan climate scientist.

But just a few years ago, climate scientists were insisting that a warming climate would cause water levels to decline.

In 2008, Science Daily reported on a study that attributed the decline in Great Lakes water levels to global warming. The researchers who conducted the study said that the drop “raised concern because the declines are consistent with many climate change predictions.”

In 2009, Columbia University’s Earth Institute informed us that “most climate models suggest that we may see declines in lake levels over the next 100 years; one suggests that we may see declines of up to 8.2 feet.”

In 2011, the Union of Concern Scientists said that “scientists expect water levels in the Great Lakes to drop in both summer and winter, with the greatest declines occurring in Lakes Huron and Michigan.”

In 2013, the Natural Resources Defense Council said that “it’s no secret that, partially due to climate change, the water levels in the Great Lakes are getting very low.”

That same year, Think Progress reported that “Several different climate models for the Great Lakes region all predict that lake levels will decline over the next century.”

Since the Great Lakes account for 21% of the world’s surface fresh water, these stories were all wrapped in doom-and-gloom scenarios about the impact on drinking water, shipping, recreation, and so on.

The very next year, however, water levels started rising.

So what are scientists saying now? Simple. They’re now claiming that the fall and rise of Great Lakes’ water levels are due to climate change.

“Climate change is driving rapid shifts between high and low water levels on the Great Lakes,” is the new “consensus.”

The truth, of course, is that water levels in the Great Lakes vary over time. And, as a matter of fact, they varied far more in the past than they do now. A U.S. Geological Survey notes that “prehistoric levels exceed modern-day fluctuations.”


Prehistoric Great Lakes Levels

USGS studies show that prehistoric levels of Lake Michigan and Lake Huron exceeded modern-day fluctuations ( Fig. 3). Prehistoric variations in the levels of Lake Michigan have exceeded (by as much as a factor of 2) the 1.6-meter range of fluctuation that spanned the 1964 low level and the 1985-87 high level. One documented high-level episode occurred in the 17th century before the region was widely settled. Lake Superior levels show a similar history, although the range of prehistoric fluctuation exceeded 2 meters in comparison with the modern range of 1.0 meter. Studies by the USGS and the Michigan Sea Grant Program conducted at Bay Mills, Michigan, on the south shore of Lake Superior, near Sault Ste. Marie have documented episodes of low lake levels over the past 2,000 years with mean levels 1.5 meters lower than the present mean level of 183.4 meters. Such episodes of higher and lower levels resulted from natural climate changes in the region. Greater and lesser lake-level fluctuations related to future natural climatic changes are not only possible, but are probable. The impact of possible global warming on the magnitude and frequency of water-level changes remains uncertain.



https://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/FS-022-96/


This revising of specific models, based on new data, is why science works and retains its integrity.   The overall predictions (you've cherry-picked one, out of thousands) have proven correct.  Revising the hydrologic picture around the Great Lakes shows how the ability to simulate future changes is improving as we get more years of data.

The basic effect, of warming waters, both freshwater and oceanic, has been proven and completely bears out predictions that started being made in the 80s.  It's why massive die-offs of coral reefs are taking place right now, and many aquatic species are shifting habitats northward or southward.   

Predicting precisely where rising temps will make things drier, or wetter, is much harder and is a work in progress.  If it were easy to figure out a complex and chaotic system like weather and ocean currents, it would be the most surprising finding in humam history.   Actual scientists are quite conservative in stating the strength of their predictions, which should earn our trust.   

The human mind is like an umbrella - it works best when open. 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14901 on: June 10, 2019, 11:23:09 AM »

Red got a tax cut.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14902 on: June 10, 2019, 11:46:43 AM »

SCOTUS rejects challenge to " In God We Trust"
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14903 on: June 10, 2019, 11:54:49 AM »

For those who think this warming of the Earth is just part of the normal cycle, a repost:
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-whats-warming-the-world/?fbclid=IwAR3ubzlFGxX-t3gMQnwHWYxuijPtncPy5dA-gZeqqotPDtr42V6g2Y6qlHI
Why isn't it a normal cycle?  Why did you limit the graph to a time period that is so limited?

1880 to the present is the period for which scientists have consistently gathered global climate data.  (but ice cores and analysis of geological strata and fossil composition also helps to unearth longer trends in the past)  Science uses a curve and then extrapolates from that, and compares the curve to other variables than temperature.   It is possible to spot trends when you have over a century of measurements.   This is how our present rise in surface temps and changes in storm systems, seawater temps and currents, glacier and ice cap shrinkage, etc. were all predicted back in the 70s and 80s. 

It's the same scientific method that allows us to know that sunspots have regular cycles, even though we haven't had astronomers with telescopes keeping records for 20,000 years.  Or that whales are mammals that evolved from land based herbivores, even though we don't have time machines that carry us back millions of years.  Inference and extrapolation are basic tools of science, the science you trust when you step onto a jet or undergo brain surgery.   I'll bet, if your daughter needed such surgery, you would choose the neurologist who attended Johns Hopkins, not the science denier who went to Oral Roberts University, College of Faith Healing.
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Oral Roberts does not train Neurologists .
Kinda destroys any credibility you assert(as in none)

Way to entirely miss the point, and ignore the answer I provided (from an actual scientist).   Of course ORU doesn't train neurologists.  That was the contrast I was trying to provide, to illustrate that you, like most people, do have some confidence that science works and that it matters when human lives at stake.
Until Science changes its mind.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14904 on: June 10, 2019, 11:57:11 AM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14905 on: June 10, 2019, 11:57:54 AM »

SCOTUS rejects challenge to " In God We Trust"

Yeah, so?
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« Reply #14906 on: June 10, 2019, 12:12:58 PM »

Red is a flat earthier who hopes to rehabilitate the reputation of eugenics which he sees as the whole point of intelligent design. Most of the horrible shit Red wants to see done is obviously horrible, so horrible he’s had to twist a religion into a corrupt mockery of its tenets to give it any justification.

Red believes that all in for Jesus = too dumb for science. It’s why he thinks he can skate along in a more Christian nation.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14907 on: June 10, 2019, 12:26:17 PM »

SCOTUS rejects challenge to " In God We Trust"

Yeah, so?
News item, that's all.
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« Reply #14908 on: June 10, 2019, 12:55:38 PM »

http://youtu.be/_cPII2l-K4s

No war but class war. It’s the long war.

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« Reply #14909 on: June 10, 2019, 01:06:41 PM »

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/18/bikers-bring-30-000-meals-new-mexico-migrants-facility/3726760002/

We should not be needing the bikers to bring food to our concentration camps. The government should be taking care of it. That they are not is beyond criminal negligence.

The government does take care of it... they contract with the company that operates the detention centers. This is the root of the immigration problem; MONEY.

All this talk about Kushner and the GOP leading on Criminal Justice Reform is a smokescreen for a shift in the markets in the Prison Industrial Complex.

Obama began phasing out the private prison corporations so they had to find a new market. Trump came down the escalator yapping about Mexico not sending their best and the PIC poured tons of money into Trump’s campaign and they “won” the contracts for immigration detention centers.

Brown Invasion?

KA-CHING!

Suckers.

Middle East peace?

CADRE-CHING!

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/10/jared-kushner-real-estate-cadre-goldman-sachs

If they made it more complicated they might miss out on opportunities to accept bribes, the whole point of their attack on America in the first place.

The author is wrong, though. There is no conflict of interest! The White House is operated to enrich the occupant and his family. So is the private business. No conflict.
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