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Is America a Meritocracy?

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Voting closed: March 29, 2019, 11:59:24 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14971 on: June 12, 2019, 01:07:43 AM »

https://twitter.com/whitneyq/status/1138424555305951232

On why there is a 6 point gap between disabled folks' voting and the non-disabled.

Is this being pushed as an anti-trump issue? Sounds like something on a liberal elitist plate.

As a rule, the disabled are not big supporters of baby cages, graft, discrimination, rewarding pollution, and drunk ass foreign policy.

The biggest pocket of trump support seems to be with child molesters. Maybe he can turn them out like he did in Alabama.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14972 on: June 12, 2019, 01:15:49 AM »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-48592711

Record rains in China have resulted in millions being stranded.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14974 on: June 12, 2019, 02:01:29 AM »

Ya donít say?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/11/us/missouri-traffic-stops-black-drivers-trnd/index.html

Just a few bad apples, Larry. Nothing to worry about.

If you're white, that is.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14975 on: June 12, 2019, 03:09:37 AM »

Ya donít say?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/11/us/missouri-traffic-stops-black-drivers-trnd/index.html

"Using stops as a policing tool for crime prevention needs to cease," Pruitt said. "The fact that somebody is driving in a particular area, and a police officer feels that that person or individuals are out of place -- that, in itself, should not justify them impeding or intruding on their lives by stopping them and searching their vehicle."

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Why not?
Crime prevention.

The report also looked at data on arrests and searches during vehicle stops. About 6.37% of the stops of blacks and 6.26% of the stops of Hispanics resulted in arrest, compared with about 4.25% of the stops of whites, the report said.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14976 on: June 12, 2019, 07:11:15 AM »

https://twitter.com/whitneyq/status/1138424555305951232

On why there is a 6 point gap between disabled folks' voting and the non-disabled.

Is this being pushed as an anti-trump issue? Sounds like something on a liberal elitist plate.



As a rule, the disabled are not big supporters of baby cages, graft, discrimination, rewarding pollution, and drunk ass foreign policy.

The biggest pocket of trump support seems to be with child molesters. Maybe he can turn them out like he did in Alabama.

Deplorable, dirty filthy low lifes, against progress? Trump seems to be for keeping illegal migrants from child abusing societies out of the USA.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14977 on: June 12, 2019, 07:21:05 AM »

Child-abusing societies! What a clown you are.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14978 on: June 12, 2019, 09:08:07 AM »

Ya donít say?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/11/us/missouri-traffic-stops-black-drivers-trnd/index.html

"Using stops as a policing tool for crime prevention needs to cease," Pruitt said. "The fact that somebody is driving in a particular area, and a police officer feels that that person or individuals are out of place -- that, in itself, should not justify them impeding or intruding on their lives by stopping them and searching their vehicle."

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Why not?
Crime prevention.

The report also looked at data on arrests and searches during vehicle stops. About 6.37% of the stops of blacks and 6.26% of the stops of Hispanics resulted in arrest, compared with about 4.25% of the stops of whites, the report said.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14979 on: June 12, 2019, 09:11:07 AM »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/abortion-supporters-have-made-trumps-reelection-more-likely/2019/06/10/1dd4b9c4-8bb9-11e9-8f69-a2795fca3343_story.html

Interesting take on Biden vacillation from Michael Gerson....



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  .....This has left nearly monolithic parties to appeal to a more ethically complex country. A 2018 Gallup poll found 29 percent who believe abortion should be legal in all circumstances, 14 percent in most circumstances, 35 percent in few circumstances and 18 percent in no circumstances. So nearly 8 in 10 Americans believe that abortion should be available in all or some circumstances. And nearly 7 in 10 believe that abortion should be restricted in all or some circumstances.

Bidenís traditional position on this issue ó that there should be a difference in governmentís role in ďthe first day and the ninth monthĒ ó could effectively appeal to a country with these views. And his opposition to federal funding of abortion was one of the last remaining ways for a Democratic politician to tell Catholics (and others) that their ethical concerns have some degree of merit. Now, a Democratic presidential nominee is not allowed even a hint of reticence. Abortion must be supported and funded as a positive good.

The moral question is obvious: How does this allow Biden to live with his Catholic conscience? But the political implications are also relevant. Biden has made it harder ó significantly harder ó for cultural conservatives who are disturbed by Trumpís cruelty and prejudice to vote for Biden, should he be his partyís nominee.     
Well, the radical shift to the right on state laws restricting abortion is going to cause people who support it to rethink the way they view abortion. Advocating for greater protection as a response strikes me as natural.

Yeah, as in other issues, the tendency these days is for everyone to be more polarized.  As with guns, a centrist position will be harder to find, because it takes, like, nuance and real dialog between factions and all that tricky bipartisan stuff that used to be called "politics."   

So we have states banning abortion where a "heartbeat" is an electrical flicker in a ball of cells one millimeter in diameter, or some group making a legal argument that the 2nd Amendment defends silencers.   

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14980 on: June 12, 2019, 09:22:27 AM »

Ya donít say?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/11/us/missouri-traffic-stops-black-drivers-trnd/index.html

Racism is over, dude!   It's just a "cultural" thing.   The refusal to change tail light bulbs among African-Americans is deeply ingrained in their traditions. 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14981 on: June 12, 2019, 09:42:22 AM »

https://www.forbes.com/sites/petergreene/2019/03/29/report-the-department-of-education-has-spent-1-billion-on-charter-school-waste-and-fraud/?fbclid=IwAR2AS2B83GzB2oHjhIBgAvVatYeWZb5iWZ-giuCps7LXFWgh1iz_B42AT_I#de130e727b64

Here's another of those "liberal elite" things - we hate waste and fraud, even in ideas we otherwise like.

I have no specific beef with the reports conclusions, Iím simply not in a position or have the knowledge to refute them. But I would apply the same skepticism to a report put out by an organization whose stated goal is to limit charter schools telling me a full quarter of the public money spent on them is a waste and a fraud as I would to a report on climate change put out by Exxon-Mobil. 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14982 on: June 12, 2019, 10:01:13 AM »

https://www.forbes.com/sites/petergreene/2019/03/29/report-the-department-of-education-has-spent-1-billion-on-charter-school-waste-and-fraud/?fbclid=IwAR2AS2B83GzB2oHjhIBgAvVatYeWZb5iWZ-giuCps7LXFWgh1iz_B42AT_I#de130e727b64

Here's another of those "liberal elite" things - we hate waste and fraud, even in ideas we otherwise like.

I have no specific beef with the reports conclusions, Iím simply not in a position or have the knowledge to refute them. But I would apply the same skepticism to a report put out by an organization whose stated goal is to limit charter schools telling me a full quarter of the public money spent on them is a waste and a fraud as I would to a report on climate change put out by Exxon-Mobil.

Itís all bullshit, anyway..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/06/11/is-it-better-be-born-smart-or-rich-you-probably-wont-like-answer/
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14983 on: June 12, 2019, 10:40:17 AM »

After months of citing Gallup and its 35-37 per cent Trump ratings, Morning Joe today begins using, "Trump - the 40 per cent president".  Then goes on to say, ".....41, 42 per cent" as if that were a major fault.

What happened to 37, Joe?

Of course the real poll now sits at 51% favorable, 47% unfavorable for President Trump

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history

High this year - 53
Low this year - 43

Strong approve sits at 37

Strong disapprove at 40

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14984 on: June 12, 2019, 10:49:09 AM »

After months of citing Gallup and its 35-37 per cent Trump ratings, Morning Joe today begins using, "Trump - the 40 per cent president".  Then goes on to say, ".....41, 42 per cent" as if that were a major fault.

What happened to 37, Joe?

Of course the real poll now sits at 51% favorable, 47% unfavorable for President Trump

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history

High this year - 53
Low this year - 43

Strong approve sits at 37

Strong disapprove at 40

Thank you for the careful parsing of obviously biased polling.  If Trump was really polling at 51 percent nationally, he wouldn't be looking at internal polls that have losing key states he won in 2016, and he wouldn't have to instruct his aides to lie about it:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/10/us/politics/trump-biden-iowa.html

I have no idea what polling "Morning Joe" usually cites, but Trump has more or less consistently been between 40-42 percent in reputable polling averages for his whole presidency (except for when he tried to take people's health insurance away, and he dropped down to 36-38 percent) so I'd say that quote is accurate.

And yes, polling at 41, 42 percent is a major fault, as it would make Trump the least popular President since WWII.

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