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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #15360 on: June 19, 2019, 09:48:14 AM »

Doesn't take a genius to see the problem in Venezuela was an incompetent and autocratic leader with a totalitarian vision, and not socialism.   It's not an excuse to point out an empirical fact of failed leadership - it's there in plain sight.
Failed Socialistic leadership?
Say it isn't so. 

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Funny how ideologues who rant against socialist democracy usually opt to not mention successful instances in Europe, where democratic process hasn't been subverted as it was forcefully in Venezuela.
There are no 'successful' socialist countries anywhere.
Scandinavia says howdy.
LOL

France, Germany, Netherlands, and Italy also send regards.  And the US, since the Woodrow Wilson administration.   People out where I dwell used to joke that farmers and ranchers hated FDR, that socialist bastard, right up until they failed and then they were pounding on his door yelling for assistance.

Yeah, no socialism here! (as Trump sends $25 Billion to farmers to maintain their political support when his protectionist trade policy would otherwise kill their business.)
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #15361 on: June 19, 2019, 09:50:27 AM »

Trump's been campaigning, instead of governing, since January 2017.   Everyone whose not in the deplorable basket is bored senseless.

White supremacists marching to confront anti-Trump protesters at his rally while Republicans claim to be scandalized by AOC calling their concentration camps concentration camps.
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"When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."  -  The impeached "president" on Feb 27, 2020

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #15362 on: June 19, 2019, 10:00:09 AM »

The beauty of using "socialism" as a pejorative is that the word means whatever Red chooses it to mean.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #15363 on: June 19, 2019, 10:15:33 AM »

Trump's been campaigning, instead of governing, since January 2017.   Everyone whose not in the deplorable basket is bored senseless.

"18 months - that's what you are talking about.  You have 18 months.  Then you are running again"

-Leo McGarry, to Matthew Santos, West Wing Season 7
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #15364 on: June 19, 2019, 10:18:23 AM »

The beauty of using "socialism" as a pejorative is that the word means whatever Red chooses it to mean.
LOL!
I think you should direct your education efforts on socialism to Whiskey, Barton, and NEEDS.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #15365 on: June 19, 2019, 10:34:48 AM »

LOL!!!!
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #15366 on: June 19, 2019, 10:35:03 AM »

It is Juneteenth. Have a BBQ.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #15367 on: June 19, 2019, 10:54:41 AM »

Trump rollout was beautiful.

KAG!
He is in great shape if the Dems nominate Hillary Clinton again.
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« Reply #15368 on: June 19, 2019, 11:56:57 AM »

The beauty of using "socialism" as a pejorative is that the word means whatever Red chooses it to mean.

If only they made dictionaries and encyclopedias that precisely defined words so that we understood "socialism" doesn't mean "Marxist dictatorship." 
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« Reply #15369 on: June 19, 2019, 12:00:16 PM »

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration on Wednesday completed one of its biggest rollbacks of environmental rules, replacing a landmark Obama-era effort that sought to wean the nation’s electrical grid off coal-fired power plants and their climate-damaging pollution.

Environmental Protection Agency chief Andrew Wheeler, a former coal industry lobbyist, signed a replacement rule that gives states leeway in deciding whether to require efficiency upgrades at existing coal plants.

Wheeler said coal-fired power plants remained essential to the power grid, something that opponents deny. “Americans want reliable energy that they can afford,” he said at a news conference. There’s no denying “the fact that fossil fuels will continue to be an important part of the mix,” he said.
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Sort of weird to roll back rules that promote more efficient coal plants.  Greater efficiencies would allow us to use coal longer and give the industry another way to brag about the good job they're doing.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #15370 on: June 19, 2019, 12:40:40 PM »

The American coal industry knows it has 3-5 years left at maximum in anything like its current scale.

The Emoluments and Bribery that went into this decision, along with the Emoluments and Bribery that drove the concentration camp contracts will become their own lurid articles of impeachment.

You could really feel the meth in the room at that Orlando Klan rally last night.
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Will the Supreme Court grant trump work release to attend the republican national convention?

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #15371 on: June 19, 2019, 01:06:38 PM »

Trump rollout was beautiful.

KAG!
He is in great shape if the Dems nominate Hillary Clinton again.

Do you think she would win the popular vote again?
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« Reply #15372 on: June 19, 2019, 01:13:10 PM »

Trump rollout was beautiful.

KAG!
He is in great shape if the Dems nominate Hillary Clinton again.

Do you think she would win the popular vote again?

Only by about 8 million votes. The 2020 Democratic nominee will do significantly better.

The trick will be to launch trump, like a fire boat into the republican senatorial campaigns at anchorage, taking the bulk of that ill fated fleet to the bottom with him.
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« Reply #15373 on: June 19, 2019, 01:28:29 PM »

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration on Wednesday completed one of its biggest rollbacks of environmental rules, replacing a landmark Obama-era effort that sought to wean the nation’s electrical grid off coal-fired power plants and their climate-damaging pollution.

Environmental Protection Agency chief Andrew Wheeler, a former coal industry lobbyist, signed a replacement rule that gives states leeway in deciding whether to require efficiency upgrades at existing coal plants.

Wheeler said coal-fired power plants remained essential to the power grid, something that opponents deny. “Americans want reliable energy that they can afford,” he said at a news conference. There’s no denying “the fact that fossil fuels will continue to be an important part of the mix,” he said.
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Sort of weird to roll back rules that promote more efficient coal plants. 

Not all that simplistic

Obama overreached - but was re-elected for it.
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« Reply #15374 on: June 19, 2019, 01:49:29 PM »

If they were willing to purchase enough golf rounds at Mar Lago, the asbestos and lead paint industries could make similar comebacks. That’s part of our reward if he gets a second term.
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