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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18255 on: August 11, 2019, 06:20:57 PM »
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18256 on: August 11, 2019, 06:36:59 PM »
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18257 on: August 11, 2019, 07:17:58 PM »
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18258 on: August 11, 2019, 07:35:31 PM »
Quote from: bambu. on August 11, 2019, 07:17:58 PM
Sophisticated post, written with a posh accent;

The first thing a man should consider before having sex with anyone is...'Is it legal'?
...as different countries have different laws.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/lifestyle/lifestyleroyals/royals-rally-round-prince-andrew-as-he-is-joined-at-church-by-the-queen-charles-and-beatrice-a-day-after-his-past-came-back-to-haunt-him-with-suicide-of-billionaire-paedophile-jeffrey-epstein/ar-AAFEO3S?li=AAgfYrC&OCID=AVRES000

Good start, Bambu.

I would disagree, a little. Try "do I have consent?" This includes the legality question plus morality questions in those places in which the laws don't align with morality. (That is, most of the time.)

You might still want to refrain when it is moral, but might not be legal. OTOH, you can, I suppose, try to make a federal case out of it, which some have chosen to do. Loving is a name, not just an adjective or participle.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18259 on: August 11, 2019, 07:38:19 PM »
Quote from: josh on August 11, 2019, 07:35:31 PM
Quote from: bambu. on August 11, 2019, 07:17:58 PM
Sophisticated post, written with a posh accent;

The first thing a man should consider before having sex with anyone is...'Is it legal'?
...as different countries have different laws.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/lifestyle/lifestyleroyals/royals-rally-round-prince-andrew-as-he-is-joined-at-church-by-the-queen-charles-and-beatrice-a-day-after-his-past-came-back-to-haunt-him-with-suicide-of-billionaire-paedophile-jeffrey-epstein/ar-AAFEO3S?li=AAgfYrC&OCID=AVRES000

Good start, Bambu.

I would disagree, a little. Try "do I have consent?" This includes the legality question plus morality questions in those places in which the laws don't align with morality. (That is, most of the time.)

You might still want to refrain when it is moral, but might not be legal. OTOH, you can, I suppose, try to make a federal case out of it, which some have chosen to do. Loving is a name, not just an adjective or participle.

Reply of the year so far.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18260 on: August 11, 2019, 07:44:12 PM »
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18261 on: August 11, 2019, 07:50:12 PM »
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18262 on: August 11, 2019, 08:05:14 PM »
Nice debate

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18263 on: August 11, 2019, 10:06:33 PM »
Quote from: josh on August 11, 2019, 07:35:31 PM
Quote from: bambu. on August 11, 2019, 07:17:58 PM
Sophisticated post, written with a posh accent;

The first thing a man should consider before having sex with anyone is...'Is it legal'?
...as different countries have different laws.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/lifestyle/lifestyleroyals/royals-rally-round-prince-andrew-as-he-is-joined-at-church-by-the-queen-charles-and-beatrice-a-day-after-his-past-came-back-to-haunt-him-with-suicide-of-billionaire-paedophile-jeffrey-epstein/ar-AAFEO3S?li=AAgfYrC&OCID=AVRES000

Good start, Bambu.

I would disagree, a little. Try "do I have consent?" This includes the legality question plus morality questions in those places in which the laws don't align with morality. (That is, most of the time.)

You might still want to refrain when it is moral, but might not be legal. OTOH, you can, I suppose, try to make a federal case out of it, which some have chosen to do. Loving is a name, not just an adjective or participle.

Legal/consent?   yes.
Courts don't deal in morality, only in the law, supposedly.
Love, lust, infatuation, it matters not.

These days, men should introduce a new concept/rule/manifesto on the subject.
Article 1. Men should obtain written and video proof of age and consent before engaging in sex with anyone.
Article 2.Women should be made to be the 'aggressors' in pursuit of sexual contact with anyone.
Article 3. in progress.
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« Reply #18264 on: August 11, 2019, 10:36:56 PM »
Quote from: bambu. on August 11, 2019, 10:06:33 PM
Quote from: josh on August 11, 2019, 07:35:31 PM
Quote from: bambu. on August 11, 2019, 07:17:58 PM
Sophisticated post, written with a posh accent;

The first thing a man should consider before having sex with anyone is...'Is it legal'?
...as different countries have different laws.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/lifestyle/lifestyleroyals/royals-rally-round-prince-andrew-as-he-is-joined-at-church-by-the-queen-charles-and-beatrice-a-day-after-his-past-came-back-to-haunt-him-with-suicide-of-billionaire-paedophile-jeffrey-epstein/ar-AAFEO3S?li=AAgfYrC&OCID=AVRES000

Good start, Bambu.

I would disagree, a little. Try "do I have consent?" This includes the legality question plus morality questions in those places in which the laws don't align with morality. (That is, most of the time.)

You might still want to refrain when it is moral, but might not be legal. OTOH, you can, I suppose, try to make a federal case out of it, which some have chosen to do. Loving is a name, not just an adjective or participle.

Legal/consent?   yes.
Courts don't deal in morality, only in the law, supposedly.
Love, lust, infatuation, it matters not.

These days, men should introduce a new concept/rule/manifesto on the subject.
Article 1. Men should obtain written and video proof of age and consent before engaging in sex with anyone.
Article 2.Women should be made to be the 'aggressors' in pursuit of sexual contact with anyone.
Article 3. in progress.

1 step forward, 3 steps back.

It's as if you've forgotten that despite your <sarcasm font>poor beleaguered status as a male</font> that men are overwhelmingly the perpetrators, not the victims.

I presume that you will be carrying out this experiment with your wife, first, before trying it on the rest of us, right?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18265 on: August 11, 2019, 10:37:48 PM »
https://www.msnbc.com/americanswamp

Episode 3 ran tonight, looking at election/voting issues.

It's pretty good, for the open-minded of you.
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« Reply #18266 on: August 12, 2019, 12:34:00 AM »
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First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
~Pastor Martin Niemöller

So, don't tell me about how the Hispanics are different from the Jews. Don't try to explain to me how Donald Trump is different from Adolf Hitler. Don't try to explain to me how these detainment camps have been different from the 1930s concentration camps run by the Germans prior to Kristallnacht.

I will speak out for the Hispanics, for the Homosexuals, for the Transmen and Transwomen, for the Disabled. And I will want to know why you are not speaking out against somebody whose excuse is "they were breaking the law," as if the law were moral and as if they were equally banal, but certain, in their judgment against those in power who break the law, which they most assuredly are not.

And no, even if your read of the economy were correct (which it is not), "I support the group responsible for atrocities because I like their economic and immigration policies" is still a morally bankrupt position.

Nor is it a matter, as Luee and Ward and Ham like to put it, of your disagreeing with me about politics. It is a matter of human decency. Or perhaps I should say inhumanity.
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« Reply #18267 on: August 12, 2019, 12:51:49 AM »
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« Reply #18268 on: August 12, 2019, 12:54:50 AM »
https://www.businessinsider.com/pentagon-blames-trump-for-return-of-isis-syria-and-iraq-2019-8?fbclid=IwAR2Jir07tBkLaRlzM_WesZ6Fv_lxFQ8yc0mdxfbMXCHn3LDiTavuaySANUo

The Pentagon blames Trump for the return of ISIS in Syria and Iraq.

I am sure that will go over well with President Trump.
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« Reply #18269 on: August 12, 2019, 01:13:43 AM »
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