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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[HamiltonIII]

The 49% Trump approval is what to him was "suspect"  - which to Josh is another way of saying "dont post that pro Trump shit around here!"

Heh

I'd say it's BIDEN central around here but

a)  nobody here wants to admit they support/like Joe
b)  Joe hasnt really taken the reins, has he?

a) a poll showing Trump has 49% approval is suspect, yes.  We've covered it well here why that is. 

b) Biden is not my preferred candidate.  His current lead is name recognition, "electability" and the hope that he would return the country to the normalcy of teh Obama Administration after four years of the US being run by an incompetent buffoon.  While those numbers may hold, I'm not sure that all of those reasons are valid.

Yeah. Who wants a candidate that could get elected and return us to normalcy? Typical of the extreme let of the Democratic Party.

Normalcy = "acceptable" levels of sexism.

Got it.

First rule of politics. Win the election. Time enough for change after that.

Snow White.

[kiidcarter8]

ANOTHER MASS SHOOTING FOILED -

shows gun control advocates are correct - that we MUST to whatever we can within reason to curb this senseless violence

Also says much for our FBI/other law enforcement - in a positive light - as well as the everyday folk who have come forward with information.

[REDSTATEWARD]

Chickens come home to Roost,
With a vengeance.

Seven or so years ago Obama needed a way to pay for ObamaCare so he decided to nationalize the student loan business arguing it would turn a profit and help fund his great social goal of providing
Affordable Health Insurance.

Fast forward to now and the Fed and the CBO report there are no profits and student loans will lose $300 Billion Then in the next decade it will start to REALLY cost us.
Worse the predicted savings in administrative costs by letting the government control the paperwork has not worked out so well. Duh!
Worst of all the cost of a college education has skyrocketed as Universities seized the opportunity that perceived easy loans would increase demand by offering boutique degrees at higher tuition costs. The result is, naturally, graduates in jobs that don’t deliver salaries to repay the loans.
But have no fear, Bernie and Liz are promosing “ free” college education for all.
If you think College is expensive now just wait until it is “ free”.

But, of course, Liz has done nicely during the loan debacle. As a college professor at Harvard along with her husband , the couple has a net worth of $12 million. And they were teaching at a non-profit institution with a $40 Billion endowment, enough money to negate any need for tuition(currently $ 99,000 per year).

[luee]

Luee and Kid like Biden.

Any questions?!

Two voices of reason and calm in a storm of hysteria, witch hunts, and liberal elitist lost causes.

[kiidcarter8]

Very dissimilar. Trump fires everyone who disagrees except family.

Whoa..... eaaaaaasy now.

[kiidcarter8]

The 49% Trump approval is what to him was "suspect"  - which to Josh is another way of saying "dont post that pro Trump shit around here!"

Heh

I'd say it's BIDEN central around here but

a)  nobody here wants to admit they support/like Joe
b)  Joe hasnt really taken the reins, has he?

a) a poll showing Trump has 49% approval is suspect, yes.  We've covered it well here why that is. 

b) Biden is not my preferred candidate.  His current lead is name recognition, "electability" and the hope that he would return the country to the normalcy of teh Obama Administration after four years of the US being run by an incompetent buffoon.  While those numbers may hold, I'm not sure that all of those reasons are valid.

Yeah. Who wants a candidate that could get elected and return us to normalcy? Typical of the extreme let of the Democratic Party.

Normalcy = "acceptable" levels of sexism.

Got it.

Mam Jill has said she has taken care of this issue.

"Let them come up to YOU, Joe"

Yeah - that oughta do it.

heh

[barton]

Turning to the personal, in recent days I have spoken to three individuals  (2 of whom are very close to me) who have told me that if Biden is the nominee they won't vote.  That concerns me.

You may pass this along to them:

1.  Are you fucking insane?  Do you REALLY want four more years of this shit?
2.  Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good or the okay.  Again, do you want four more years of Trump?
3.  Politics is called the Art of the Possible.  Please wake up and recognize this and get your ass to a polling station.
4.  Are you fucking insane?  Did 2016 teach you NOTHING about what happens when people adopt purity positions and stay home?
5.  Are you clean out of your motherfucking mind?

(You can tighten and polish that up a little, if you want.)

Cheers.

[kiidcarter8]

probably in a state where it wont matter anyway, barton

[NeedsAdjustments]

probably in a state where it wont matter anyway, barton

Strong argument for the EC you got there.

[barton]

https://www.nj.com/politics/2019/08/murphy-administration-staffer-fired-after-anti-semitic-facebook-posts-surface.html

Because you and all the others strangely missed it.

And it's not a joke.

So what?  Some state employee fired off some overheated rhetoric about who a school should be named after, and that we shouldn't give money to Israel, and that U.S. treatment of African Americans was like a holocaust. 

And was fired.  I don't know that I'd disagree with everything he said (not being up on the details of NJ politics and school namings), but I see no real problem with firing a recent hire who shows bad judgement.  The bit about sterilizing Ethiopian immigrants sounded like tinfoil hat crazy, and the government is probably better off without the guy. 

The real question, since this is a political discussion forum, should be as to the truth of any of his statements.  Even a tinfoil hat guy can be correct, some of the time. 

(Please quote my reply in its entirety, if you reply.  Thank you.)

[barton]

probably in a state where it wont matter anyway, barton

Strong argument for the EC you got there.

LOL

[NeedsAdjustments]

How predictable:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/22/media/sarah-sanders-fox-news/index.html

Not only confirmed that she is someone who lies for the "president" but also confirmed that Trump Administration officials sign NDAs that extend past their employment there.

So what value is there to having her on a news network actually interested in the truth?  Ah...

[oilcan]

Why one should question "49%" ----

https://apnews.com/1ad13f32984a4480a45738ead2b4c0d8

NEW YORK (AP) — About 6 in 10 Americans disapprove of President Donald Trump’s overall job performance, according to a new poll released Thursday by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research, which finds some support for the president’s handling of the U.S. economy but gives him weak marks on other major issues.

Just 36% of Americans approve of the way Trump is handling his job as president; 62% disapprove.

The numbers may be ugly for a first-term president facing reelection in 14 months, but they are remarkably consistent. Trump’s approval rating has never dipped below 32% or risen above 42% in AP-NORC polls since he took office.

No other president has stayed within so narrow a band. Since Gallup began measuring presidential approval, Trump is the only president whose rating has never been above 50%. Still, several — Harry Truman, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush — logged ratings worse than Trump’s lowest rating so far at some point during their time in office.

Trump’s poor grades in the AP-NORC poll extend to his handling of several key issues: immigration, health care, foreign policy and guns. Views of the Republican president’s handling of the economy remain a relative bright spot despite fears of a potential recession, but at least 60% of Americans disapprove of his performance on other issues. The consistency suggests the president’s weak standing with the American people is calcified after two years of near-constant political crises and divisive rhetoric at the White House....

[NeedsAdjustments]

Trump's chase to catch up with Obama's employment record loses ground by 500,000 jobs:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/21/business/economy/jobs-growth-revision.html

[kiidcarter8]

How predictable:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/22/media/sarah-sanders-fox-news/index.html

Not only confirmed that she is someone who lies for the "president" but also confirmed that Trump Administration officials sign NDAs that extend past their employment there.

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