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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[Hairy Lime]

One of those nations allows few people to carry guns.  The other one, pretty much anyone can have any kind of gun they want, short of a bazooka or grenade launcher. 

the right of an individual guaranteed by the US Constitution.

No, it's guaranteed by one of the lamer comparatively recent SCOTUS decisions in the last couple decades. If the McConnell Court-packing gets undone in the future, so does that.

Your research is pretty lame.

SCOTUS on the 2nd Amendment

Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857)
United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1876)
Presser v. Illinois, 116 U.S. 252 (1886)
Miller v. Texas, 153 U.S. 535 (1894)
Robertson v. Baldwin, 165 U.S. 275 (1897)
United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939)
Lewis v. United States, 445 U.S. 55 (1980)
United States v. Verdugo-Urquidez, 494 U.S. 259 (1990)
Casey v. Planned Parenthood, 503 U.S. 833 (1992)

"last couple decades"

2019 - 20 years = 1999.

But okay, let's go back 30 years. You listed 2. I'd add a few you skipped, but...

"one of the lamer comparatively recent SCOTUS decisions"

Not the lamest. Not in history.

I was briefly inpressed that you had offered evidence to support your position and I was expecting you to try to support Heller, but you wisely didn't do that.

OTOH, you unwisely chose to ignore what I did write.

Wrong, again, Ward.

LOL
I don’t need to ignore what you wrote.
SCOTUS long ago settled the Constitutionality of the 2nd Amendment

I do not think you thought this one through. The Constitionality of the 2nd Amendment was settled by its ratification. The applicability of the 2nd Amendment beyond regular organized militias to individuals and the incorporation of the 2nd Amendment against the states were both decided by the SCOTUS in cases of first impression in the 2000s.

[REDSTATEWARD]

One of those nations allows few people to carry guns.  The other one, pretty much anyone can have any kind of gun they want, short of a bazooka or grenade launcher. 

the right of an individual guaranteed by the US Constitution.

No, it's guaranteed by one of the lamer comparatively recent SCOTUS decisions in the last couple decades. If the McConnell Court-packing gets undone in the future, so does that.

Your research is pretty lame.

SCOTUS on the 2nd Amendment

Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857)
United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1876)
Presser v. Illinois, 116 U.S. 252 (1886)
Miller v. Texas, 153 U.S. 535 (1894)
Robertson v. Baldwin, 165 U.S. 275 (1897)
United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939)
Lewis v. United States, 445 U.S. 55 (1980)
United States v. Verdugo-Urquidez, 494 U.S. 259 (1990)
Casey v. Planned Parenthood, 503 U.S. 833 (1992)

"last couple decades"

2019 - 20 years = 1999.

But okay, let's go back 30 years. You listed 2. I'd add a few you skipped, but...

"one of the lamer comparatively recent SCOTUS decisions"

Not the lamest. Not in history.

I was briefly inpressed that you had offered evidence to support your position and I was expecting you to try to support Heller, but you wisely didn't do that.

OTOH, you unwisely chose to ignore what I did write.

Wrong, again, Ward.

LOL
I don’t need to ignore what you wrote.
SCOTUS long ago settled the Constitutionality of the 2nd Amendment

I do not think you thought this one through. The Constitionality of the 2nd Amendment was settled by its ratification. The applicability of the 2nd Amendment beyond regular organized militias to individuals and the incorporation of the 2nd Amendment against the states were both decided by the SCOTUS in cases of first impression in the 2000s.

Uh, no.
The ratification of the Constitution( of which the 2nd Amendment was a key) was upheld by SCOTUS in the cases I cited.

[josh]

One of those nations allows few people to carry guns.  The other one, pretty much anyone can have any kind of gun they want, short of a bazooka or grenade launcher. 

the right of an individual guaranteed by the US Constitution.

No, it's guaranteed by one of the lamer comparatively recent SCOTUS decisions in the last couple decades. If the McConnell Court-packing gets undone in the future, so does that.

Your research is pretty lame.

SCOTUS on the 2nd Amendment

Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857)
United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1876)
Presser v. Illinois, 116 U.S. 252 (1886)
Miller v. Texas, 153 U.S. 535 (1894)
Robertson v. Baldwin, 165 U.S. 275 (1897)
United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939)
Lewis v. United States, 445 U.S. 55 (1980)
United States v. Verdugo-Urquidez, 494 U.S. 259 (1990)
Casey v. Planned Parenthood, 503 U.S. 833 (1992)

"last couple decades"

2019 - 20 years = 1999.

But okay, let's go back 30 years. You listed 2. I'd add a few you skipped, but...

"one of the lamer comparatively recent SCOTUS decisions"

Not the lamest. Not in history.

I was briefly inpressed that you had offered evidence to support your position and I was expecting you to try to support Heller, but you wisely didn't do that.

OTOH, you unwisely chose to ignore what I did write.

Wrong, again, Ward.

LOL
I don’t need to ignore what you wrote.
SCOTUS long ago settled the Constitutionality of the 2nd Amendment

Which still has nothing to do with the Heller decision which is about whether the right of individuals to own guns is tied to militias or not.

But you don't care about that because it would undermine your position.

p.s. Claiming Dred Scot supports your position is really stupid, not because it does or does not.

[Hairy Lime]

One of those nations allows few people to carry guns.  The other one, pretty much anyone can have any kind of gun they want, short of a bazooka or grenade launcher. 

the right of an individual guaranteed by the US Constitution.

No, it's guaranteed by one of the lamer comparatively recent SCOTUS decisions in the last couple decades. If the McConnell Court-packing gets undone in the future, so does that.

Your research is pretty lame.

SCOTUS on the 2nd Amendment

Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857)
United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1876)
Presser v. Illinois, 116 U.S. 252 (1886)
Miller v. Texas, 153 U.S. 535 (1894)
Robertson v. Baldwin, 165 U.S. 275 (1897)
United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939)
Lewis v. United States, 445 U.S. 55 (1980)
United States v. Verdugo-Urquidez, 494 U.S. 259 (1990)
Casey v. Planned Parenthood, 503 U.S. 833 (1992)

"last couple decades"

2019 - 20 years = 1999.

But okay, let's go back 30 years. You listed 2. I'd add a few you skipped, but...

"one of the lamer comparatively recent SCOTUS decisions"

Not the lamest. Not in history.

I was briefly inpressed that you had offered evidence to support your position and I was expecting you to try to support Heller, but you wisely didn't do that.

OTOH, you unwisely chose to ignore what I did write.

Wrong, again, Ward.

LOL
I don’t need to ignore what you wrote.
SCOTUS long ago settled the Constitutionality of the 2nd Amendment

I do not think you thought this one through. The Constitionality of the 2nd Amendment was settled by its ratification. The applicability of the 2nd Amendment beyond regular organized militias to individuals and the incorporation of the 2nd Amendment against the states were both decided by the SCOTUS in cases of first impression in the 2000s.

Uh, no.
The ratification of the Constitution( of which the 2nd Amendment was a key) was upheld by SCOTUS in the cases I cited.

Uh, no. You have no idea what you are saying. And neither, for that matter, does espnthree.

[josh]

https://t.co/tRtqZyeYQV?fbclid=IwAR0Dlgu8Hmt1TdokVlawE-UAkBMOMMppe6UuxcYWkRasVzB7QJk-L-ChtWA

Scientists must act on our own warnings to humanity

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/115409735/temperature-high-up-in-atmosphere-above-antarctica-sets-record?fbclid=IwAR2QC8I8vg9-axbff2VjKeu6_Gq8m2TuqOIFvgLX4fWXFfZiEEkzF0ph-a0

Temperature high up in atmosphere above Antarctica sets record
Rapid warming high above Antarctica is a 'fascinating event' and uncharted territory for experts:

[Yankguy1]

One of those nations allows few people to carry guns.  The other one, pretty much anyone can have any kind of gun they want, short of a bazooka or grenade launcher. 

the right of an individual guaranteed by the US Constitution.

No, it's guaranteed by one of the lamer comparatively recent SCOTUS decisions in the last couple decades. If the McConnell Court-packing gets undone in the future, so does that.

Your research is pretty lame.

SCOTUS on the 2nd Amendment

Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857)
United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1876)
Presser v. Illinois, 116 U.S. 252 (1886)
Miller v. Texas, 153 U.S. 535 (1894)
Robertson v. Baldwin, 165 U.S. 275 (1897)
United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939)
Lewis v. United States, 445 U.S. 55 (1980)
United States v. Verdugo-Urquidez, 494 U.S. 259 (1990)
Casey v. Planned Parenthood, 503 U.S. 833 (1992)

"last couple decades"

2019 - 20 years = 1999.

But okay, let's go back 30 years. You listed 2. I'd add a few you skipped, but...

"one of the lamer comparatively recent SCOTUS decisions"

Not the lamest. Not in history.

I was briefly inpressed that you had offered evidence to support your position and I was expecting you to try to support Heller, but you wisely didn't do that.

OTOH, you unwisely chose to ignore what I did write.

Wrong, again, Ward.

LOL
I don’t need to ignore what you wrote.
SCOTUS long ago settled the Constitutionality of the 2nd Amendment

I do not think you thought this one through. The Constitionality of the 2nd Amendment was settled by its ratification. The applicability of the 2nd Amendment beyond regular organized militias to individuals and the incorporation of the 2nd Amendment against the states were both decided by the SCOTUS in cases of first impression in the 2000s.

Uh, no.
The ratification of the Constitution( of which the 2nd Amendment was a key) was upheld by SCOTUS in the cases I cited.

Uh, no. You have no idea what you are saying.

Yes. I do.

Why is ESPN3 speaking for Red?

[josh]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/03/business/walmart-ends-handgun-ammo-sales/index.html?fbclid=IwAR2QdK9N8oN0zOfkOD7zWAQBNHqAVJMCt7_ix4G7Q5eDHwmQM5YXLpX2RIQ

Bullet control works, too.

No right to purchase ammo, as far as I know.

[josh]

[bambu.]

The madness of King Bojo....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/showdown-set-for-the-british-parliament-as-legislators-return-from-summer-recess/2019/09/03/105ecca6-cb6c-11e9-9615-8f1a32962e04_story.html

Hooting, jeering, catcalling in Parliament today.

Why can't we do that here?

You can't?

[josh]

The madness of King Bojo....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/showdown-set-for-the-british-parliament-as-legislators-return-from-summer-recess/2019/09/03/105ecca6-cb6c-11e9-9615-8f1a32962e04_story.html

Hooting, jeering, catcalling in Parliament today.

Why can't we do that here?

You can't?

In Congress, Bambi.

[REDSTATEWARD]

The ratification of the Constitution( of which the 2nd Amendment was a key) was upheld by SCOTUS in the cases I cited.  RedStageWarJimESPN3 and 4 and 5

The Comstitution was ratified by 9 of the 13 states BEFORE the Bill of Rights (including the 2nd Amendment) was written.  Something that didn't exist was KEY to the US Constitution being
Ratified?

Yep.

[REDSTATEWARD]

The ratification of the Constitution( of which the 2nd Amendment was a key) was upheld by SCOTUS in the cases I cited.  RedStageWarJimESPN3 and 4 and 5

The Comstitution was ratified by 9 of the 13 states BEFORE the Bill of Rights (including the 2nd Amendment) was written.  Something that didn't exist was KEY to the US Constitution being
Ratified?

Yep.

Yep?  Try NOPE!

Nope.

[josh]

Before and after pictures from the Bahamas:

[josh]

Uh, no.
The ratification of the Constitution( of which the 2nd Amendment was a key) was upheld by SCOTUS in the cases I cited.

The US Constitution was ratified on June 21, 1788.

The 2nd Amendment (which was the 4th one put up, not the 2nd) was proposed on Sept. 25, 1789, along with 11 others. It was not ratified until Dec. 15, 1791, nearly 3 and a half years after the Constitution.

No, the subsequently enumerated 2nd Amendment was not key to the ratification of the Constitution.

[facilitatorn]

If you said that to anyone but a shit eating troll, they would agree.