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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #19860 on: September 04, 2019, 07:34:33 AM »

Guns are great...for shooting kidnappers.
When they grab your kid...you have to be ready to shoot to kill.
It's the same all over the world.

Unfortunately, in some countries people are not allowed to carry guns, or don't want to/don't think it's necessary.
Americans are lucky, they can carry guns and defend themselves and their families from kidnappers.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/kidnapped-daughter-6-of-f1-powerboat-star-found-dumped-alive-at-side-of-road/ar-AAGIUnG?li=AAgfYrC&OCID=AVRES000

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Japan/United-States/Crime

Note the difference in violent crime rates and homicide rate between Japan and the United States.  Or mass shootings.  One of those nations allows few people to carry guns.  The other one, pretty much anyone can have any kind of gun they want, short of a bazooka or grenade launcher.  Can you get that through your thick head?

If only the govt man and the cops in America could protect their citizens...then there'd be no need for The People to carry guns.

The bad people lurk in the shadows, waiting to pounce.
They pounced, mom had a shotgun and a pistol...intruder died, mom and baby are alive and well.
All good.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/okla-woman-shoots-kills-intruder911-operators-shoot/story?id=15285605
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #19861 on: September 04, 2019, 08:29:52 AM »

Good for her.
But for every instance like that, you can probably find more like this:
14-year-old killed his family, later confessed
And I didn't have to go back 9 months.  This was yesterday.
8th grader killed his father, stepmother, and three step-siblings ages 5, 6 and a 6-month old baby.   Dad's gun.

In your story, kind of stupid invaders if they only had a knife and didn't see through the windows or that she had a gun in each hand.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #19862 on: September 04, 2019, 09:08:53 AM »

Those stories, of kids shooting themselves, other kids, or their own families with their family's guns are legion, yet never seem to be uncovered by Bambu. "Guns are great" remains the narrative.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #19864 on: September 04, 2019, 09:36:22 AM »



If people don't mind, I was wondering who folks here favored in the Dem primary (thus far) and maybe some reasons for that support.


Warren for POTUS, because of being smart, because of carefully crafted policy proposals, long career that has provided much experience in national government, and because goddammit it's time to let a woman try her hand at this presidenting thing.

Booker for VPOTUS, because we need someone who really understands that affordable housing is absolutely critical.   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #19865 on: September 04, 2019, 10:35:57 AM »

Biden and Gabbard. Some centrist sanity after the bluster and pomposity of the past three years and a military lady who did not go to bed with the Saudis. No to 1% Pocahontas and Karl Bernie Marx.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #19866 on: September 04, 2019, 11:21:03 AM »

Biden and Gabbard. Some centrist sanity after the bluster and pomposity of the past three years and a military lady who did not go to bed with the Saudis. No to 1% Pocahontas and Karl Bernie Marx.
I don’t know about Gabbard but I can see  Biden winning the nomination because he is very popular with black voters , especially older black voters.  All the rest have moved way to the left of black voters who are more conservative and tend to believe Biden is the only hope of beating Trump.
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« Reply #19867 on: September 04, 2019, 12:05:19 PM »

Booker.  A sane progressive who is willing to work bipartisan.  Maybe have a midwesterner on the ticket with him who can talk with folks out there.  A Klobuchar or a Buttigieg.  Or (just my fantasy), bring Stacy Abrams aboard - she is awesome.  I am sorry that she doesn't want to run for Senate in 2020.   

But we'd better run this past Ward - he provides us with his special window into what black Americans think. 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #19868 on: September 04, 2019, 12:33:19 PM »

Guns are great...for shooting kidnappers.
When they grab your kid...you have to be ready to shoot to kill.
It's the same all over the world.

Unfortunately, in some countries people are not allowed to carry guns, or don't want to/don't think it's necessary.
Americans are lucky, they can carry guns and defend themselves and their families from kidnappers.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/kidnapped-daughter-6-of-f1-powerboat-star-found-dumped-alive-at-side-of-road/ar-AAGIUnG?li=AAgfYrC&OCID=AVRES000

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Japan/United-States/Crime

Note the difference in violent crime rates and homicide rate between Japan and the United States.  Or mass shootings.  One of those nations allows few people to carry guns.  The other one, pretty much anyone can have any kind of gun they want, short of a bazooka or grenade launcher.  Can you get that through your thick head?

If only the govt man and the cops in America could protect their citizens...then there'd be no need for The People to carry guns.

The bad people lurk in the shadows, waiting to pounce.
They pounced, mom had a shotgun and a pistol...intruder died, mom and baby are alive and well.
All good.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/okla-woman-shoots-kills-intruder911-operators-shoot/story?id=15285605

They pounced, Mom had a pistol... intruder was kid coming home from college for a surprise visit. Lucky Mom only winged her baby.

https://www.newsweek.com/ohio-mother-shoots-daughter-surprise-college-1457589
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #19869 on: September 04, 2019, 12:39:39 PM »

Guns are great...for shooting kidnappers.
When they grab your kid...you have to be ready to shoot to kill.
It's the same all over the world.

Unfortunately, in some countries people are not allowed to carry guns, or don't want to/don't think it's necessary.
Americans are lucky, they can carry guns and defend themselves and their families from kidnappers.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/kidnapped-daughter-6-of-f1-powerboat-star-found-dumped-alive-at-side-of-road/ar-AAGIUnG?li=AAgfYrC&OCID=AVRES000

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Japan/United-States/Crime

Note the difference in violent crime rates and homicide rate between Japan and the United States.  Or mass shootings.  One of those nations allows few people to carry guns.  The other one, pretty much anyone can have any kind of gun they want, short of a bazooka or grenade launcher.  Can you get that through your thick head?

If only the govt man and the cops in America could protect their citizens...then there'd be no need for The People to carry guns.

The bad people lurk in the shadows, waiting to pounce.
They pounced, mom had a shotgun and a pistol...intruder died, mom and baby are alive and well.
All good.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/okla-woman-shoots-kills-intruder911-operators-shoot/story?id=15285605

They pounced, Mom had a pistol... intruder was kid coming home from college for a surprise visit. Lucky Mom only winged her baby.

https://www.newsweek.com/ohio-mother-shoots-daughter-surprise-college-1457589
Dammit, LarryB, Bambu was just going to post that story.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #19870 on: September 04, 2019, 12:47:01 PM »


But we'd better run this past Ward - he provides us with his special window into what black Americans think.


ROCK HILL, S.C. — A generational divide among black voters is persisting in the Democratic primary — between the two old white men.

Joe Biden has amassed a staggering lead among older African Americans, commanding nearly two-thirds support of black voters 65 and older in the most recent Morning Consult poll. Bernie Sanders is the favorite of black millennials, though his margin with that group is much smaller. Among all black voters, Biden is leading Sanders, 41 percent to 20 percent.

Politico- September 2, 2019
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« Reply #19871 on: September 04, 2019, 02:01:38 PM »


But we'd better run this past Ward - he provides us with his special window into what black Americans think.


ROCK HILL, S.C. — A generational divide among black voters is persisting in the Democratic primary — between the two old white men.

Joe Biden has amassed a staggering lead among older African Americans, commanding nearly two-thirds support of black voters 65 and older in the most recent Morning Consult poll. Bernie Sanders is the favorite of black millennials, though his margin with that group is much smaller. Among all black voters, Biden is leading Sanders, 41 percent to 20 percent.

Politico- September 2, 2019

Millennials came of age with Obama and Biden was his wingman. Boomers know Biden for decades and like him in spite of his policy fuck ups because we know his heart is in the right place.

Bernie came along and millennials had a choice between a guy who challenged the status quo or HRC who represented status quo yet HRC whipped his ass in the primary.

So right now Bernie and Biden have the advantage of big time name recognition and familiarity’s. Both are probably gonna lose to Warren whose organization is formidable.

LarryB September 4, 2019
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« Reply #19872 on: September 04, 2019, 02:10:18 PM »


But we'd better run this past Ward - he provides us with his special window into what black Americans think.


ROCK HILL, S.C. — A generational divide among black voters is persisting in the Democratic primary — between the two old white men.

Joe Biden has amassed a staggering lead among older African Americans, commanding nearly two-thirds support of black voters 65 and older in the most recent Morning Consult poll. Bernie Sanders is the favorite of black millennials, though his margin with that group is much smaller. Among all black voters, Biden is leading Sanders, 41 percent to 20 percent.

Politico- September 2, 2019

Biden has a staggering lead in the field right now with all voters, largely thanks to his name recognition.  And I would bet good money that the “generational divide” between support for a progressive vs. more moderate candidate exists with white voters too. 

As for anyone thinking there is one candidate who is “the only hope of beating Trump” as though Trump is some kind of political juggernaut (particularly with the coming economic slowdown)  I’d say that thinking is flawed. 

I am uncomfortable with anyone basing their choice on who can best beat Trump in the general.  Yes, we are facing what could be considered an existential crisis in four more years of this “president” but it’s the gaming it out that can go wrong.  You don’t think the US will elect a woman?  OK.  But given that Biden is gaffe-prone, has issues with interactions with women, and seems to have an indifferent attitude toward the truth (issues that matter to Democratic voters, anyway) it’s not impossible that down the road Biden becomes less “electable.”  At the very least he draws less clear a contrast with the White House’s current occupant.

Plus, beating Trump isn’t only about the election.  There will be a lot of work to do after its won, and it will take someone with energy and ideas to reverse the damage that has been done and ferret out the time-bombs left over by the equal parts incompetence and malice of the Trump Administration.

I hope that 2020, like 2018, is another election in which the GOP face a clear reckoning for their support of corruption and white nationalism, for their anti-democratic positioning, and for putting their party over their country.  I think it will be.  And I think any number of our current candidates can stand at the head of that storm, but Elizabeth Warren will do the best job of returning our government to its people.
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« Reply #19873 on: September 04, 2019, 02:12:11 PM »


But we'd better run this past Ward - he provides us with his special window into what black Americans think.


ROCK HILL, S.C. — A generational divide among black voters is persisting in the Democratic primary — between the two old white men.

Joe Biden has amassed a staggering lead among older African Americans, commanding nearly two-thirds support of black voters 65 and older in the most recent Morning Consult poll. Bernie Sanders is the favorite of black millennials, though his margin with that group is much smaller. Among all black voters, Biden is leading Sanders, 41 percent to 20 percent.

Politico- September 2, 2019

Millennials came of age with Obama and Biden was his wingman. Boomers know Biden for decades and like him in spite of his policy fuck ups because we know his heart is in the right place.

Bernie came along and millennials had a choice between a guy who challenged the status quo or HRC who represented status quo yet HRC whipped his ass in the primary.

So right now Bernie and Biden have the advantage of big time name recognition and familiarity’s. Both are probably gonna lose to Warren whose organization is formidable.

LarryB September 4, 2019
Both Bernie and Warren are left of Blacks. Their policies on immigration and student loan  forgiveness just two examples.
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« Reply #19874 on: September 04, 2019, 02:16:06 PM »

The only clear cut policies of Warren and Sanders is “taking the government FROM the people.”
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