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Russia will gain eastern Ukraine territories and hold them, as it has Crimea

5 (45.5%)

Russia will temporarily gain eastern Ukraine territories before being forced out of them

2 (18.2%)

Efforts to confront the Russian forces and get them out of Ukraine will lead to Putin's escalating and attacking NATO countries directly with missiles or other destructive measures

0 (0%)

The NATO/World response will be so mild that Putin will go ahead and take the rest of Ukraine

3 (27.3%)

Today Ukraine, tomorrow Moldova and who knows where else

1 (9.1%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: March 01, 2022, 01:18:43 PM

[CaptainCargo]

Probably not popular but a differing view than the standard Western knee-jerk.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq4k8bBx2Pc

[CaptainCargo]

EU has deployed fighter jets and tens of thousands of anti-tank and machine guns to Ukraine.

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About time.

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Putin has hired, thru one of his best buddies, mercenaries from Africa to kill the President of Ukraine.

Just where does anyone think these jets are going to take off from if they even manage to get into Ukraine? Where will Ukraine get the trained pilots to fly them? The Western media would have everyone believe that Ukrainian jets of the Ukrainian air force are just flying around inside the country conducting missions. When the truth is the skies over Ukraine are owned by the Russian air force. Nobody wants war and the concerned medias of both sides tend to lie their collective asses off.

[facilitatorn]

They are essentially the same Migs Ukraine uses. They have mobile launch setups they move around which is why hitting airfields has not grounded the ones they had already. More birds in the pipe, minimal retraining required. Maintaining and renewing your pilot corps is the main trick.

[facilitatorn]

http://thetriad.thebulwark.com/p/the-west-is-winning-russia-is-losing?utm_source=url

[CaptainCargo]

They are essentially the same Migs Ukraine uses. They have mobile launch setups they move around which is why hitting airfields has not grounded the ones they had already. More birds in the pipe, minimal retraining required. Maintaining and renewing your pilot corps is the main trick.

If they are, and they actually manage to get off the ground,(aka not getting destroyed as they are trucked in) they will simply be shot down like the rest. A few aircraft isn't going to make a rats ass difference in the sky. And servicing them would be next to impossible. The Russians have the same eye in the sky that everyone else has.

[Holly Martins]

Probably not popular but a differing view than the standard Western knee-jerk.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq4k8bBx2Pc

The attack on residential neighborhood in Kharkiv today somewhat undermines his thesis that Russia has no intent to harm Ukrainian noncombatants or hurt the country.  Those were not shells going astray.  The footage is unambiguous.  As for simply assuming that we accept the rhetorical use of "knee-jerk" to dismiss western journalists who work in dangerous war zones, sorry, that's just sophistry.  You need evidence.  Especially when a proven ruthless dictator and murderous thug starts firing rockets and dropping bombs on major population centers and its captured by hundreds of thousands of cellphone cameras. 

In countries where almost everyone has a smartphone and some ability to upload, it's a lot harder to hide destruction and murder of civilians. 

[Holly Martins]

They are essentially the same Migs Ukraine uses. They have mobile launch setups they move around which is why hitting airfields has not grounded the ones they had already. More birds in the pipe, minimal retraining required. Maintaining and renewing your pilot corps is the main trick.

If they are, and they actually manage to get off the ground,(aka not getting destroyed as they are trucked in) they will simply be shot down like the rest. A few aircraft isn't going to make a rats ass difference in the sky. And servicing them would be next to impossible. The Russians have the same eye in the sky that everyone else has.

It will be Hungarian style urban fighting that will be the real migraine for Russia, I would guess.  Embedded in the brickwork with assault rifles, Javelin ATTs, Molotov cocktails, IEDs, RPGs, etc the Ukrainian people will make taking cities a deep and sucking bog for Putin. 

[facilitatorn]

If sanctions kick in in a few weeks without Russia dominating airspace, locking in supply lines, and holding some major cities, Russia may have a hard think about a full withdrawal. Keeping Ukraine alive and supplied in every way is the best thing we can do right now to help based on the current state of play.

[LarryBnDC]

They are essentially the same Migs Ukraine uses. They have mobile launch setups they move around which is why hitting airfields has not grounded the ones they had already. More birds in the pipe, minimal retraining required. Maintaining and renewing your pilot corps is the main trick.

If they are, and they actually manage to get off the ground,(aka not getting destroyed as they are trucked in) they will simply be shot down like the rest. A few aircraft isn't going to make a rats ass difference in the sky. And servicing them would be next to impossible. The Russians have the same eye in the sky that everyone else has.

It will be Hungarian style urban fighting that will be the real migraine for Russia, I would guess.  Embedded in the brickwork with assault rifles, Javelin ATTs, Molotov cocktails, IEDs, RPGs, etc the Ukrainian people will make taking cities a deep and sucking bog for Putin.

The Bear is trying to swallow the porcupine

[bambu.]

ScoMo just took $100m out of the bambuland 'war chest ' to give to Ukraine.
Not sure what they'll get for $100m but I guess it's better than nothing.

Russian vodka pulled from liquor store shelves downunder.
Everything Russian is on the nose.

[luee]

Frightening how a blood thirsty madman can still take complete control of a modern democracy.

[bambu.]

Frightening how a blood thirsty madman can still take complete control of a modern democracy.

Simple really...it's happening because the West is doing nothing, just allowing it to happen.
Ye olde:  "evil flourishes when good men do nothing."
Well good men are doing nothing, too scared to upset the blood thirsty madman.
Of course, the whole Russian regime is doing it, not just the madman.
Europe obviously learnt absolutely nothing from WW11 and Hitler.
Hitler is back, Europe got conned again.

Trump said it true:  "Putiin is smart, but it's not that Putin is smart, it's that our (West) leaders are dumb".
Truer words have never been spoken.

Sky News said it true:

WEST IGNORED THE RISE OF CHINA AND RUSSIA.
CLIMATE CHANGE FOLLY SANK THE WEST (Para...something like that).
Yes, West was busy beating itself up over climate change instead of arming itself.
Only having one country (USA) armed to the teeth was total folly.
Relying on the blood thirsty madman's oil and gas was unbelievable folly.
ScoMo and Australia are not the enemies, but they're the ones the West attacks all the time..."burning too much coal", "not doing enough for women and women's rights"...etc etc etc.
Russia and China are the enemies, the ones threatening and doing war! But the West loves them, Russia is the Chair of the UN, the blood thirsty madman and his regime are ruling the world.  LOL
China, vice President of the world, has everyone tied a up and handcuffed with trade. The dumb West fell for its tempting charms.

Too late for Ukraine and its people. Russia...Putin is only one man...is now bombing Ukraine to bits, soon there'll be nothing left but rubble...no buildings left and no people left alive.
All the dumb West basically does is watch on saying "oh dear, isn't that terrible".

Trump is 100% correct...dumb dumb dumb is the West.
Finland borders Russia, next to it are Norway and Sweden, what defences do they have, these "best countries in the world"?
Any oil rigs, any coal mines, any gas mines...how much are they paying the US for their security?

[LarryBnDC]

Powerful stuff

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1498626678846799875?s=21

[Holly Martins]

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скучно до слез

[facilitatorn]

http://www.thebulwark.com/death-to-rt/