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Russia will gain eastern Ukraine territories and hold them, as it has Crimea

5 (45.5%)

Russia will temporarily gain eastern Ukraine territories before being forced out of them

2 (18.2%)

Efforts to confront the Russian forces and get them out of Ukraine will lead to Putin's escalating and attacking NATO countries directly with missiles or other destructive measures

0 (0%)

The NATO/World response will be so mild that Putin will go ahead and take the rest of Ukraine

3 (27.3%)

Today Ukraine, tomorrow Moldova and who knows where else

1 (9.1%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: March 01, 2022, 01:18:43 PM

[Espnthree]

All you have to do is produce it.

I can't disprove the existence of fairies, either, but in the absence of evidence for them and the generally silly claims of tiny magical woodland spirits I can dismiss them.

Okay you dismissed them.  Now what?
You gonna stomp your feet too?

[bambu.]

All you have to do is produce it.

The burden of proof lies with the person making a specious claim.  Boz doesn't have to produce squat for you.

I can't disprove the existence of fairies, either, but in the absence of evidence for them and the generally silly claims of tiny magical woodland spirits I can dismiss them.

In Ireland they build freeways etc around fairy trees, so as not to disturb the fairies.

[facilitatorn]

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/04/02/indoor-plumbing-still-a-pipe-dream-for-20-of-russian-households-reports-say-a65049

The pleasure of acquiescing to xenophobes and their endless thirst for authority that they are not even smart enough to respect.

[bambu.]

Time to start missiling Russia.
Evil Russia is now bombing hospital maternity wards and killing babies.

[facilitatorn]

They have been doing it for months now. Wake up.

[bambu.]

They have been doing it for months now. Wake up.

Where are all the surface to air missiles the West promised Ukraine?

[LarryB!]

They have been doing it for months now. Wake up.

Where are all the surface to air missiles the West promised Ukraine?

Ask your No. 1 radio host

[bambu.]

They have been doing it for months now. Wake up.

Where are all the surface to air missiles the West promised Ukraine?

Ask your No. 1 radio host

It's obvious Europe-West is paralysed with fear, so Russia just keeps right on turning Ukraine into ash.
Russia fires missiles into Ukraine...so Ukraine should do the same to Russia.
Rockets raining down on Moscow seems what it will take to make the Russian People revolt and storm the Kremlin.

[LarryB!]

Putin is losing his groove

[bambu.]

Putin is losing his groove

Ukrainians are losing their lives.
Iran is supplying Russia with weapons.
There'll be nothing left in Ukraine soon if Europe-West doesn't quickly supply Ukraine with 
enough missiles to damage Russia.

[kidcarter8]

Problem is media isnt accurately reporting the Ukraine scoreboard, thus it appears they dont need the help they actually will.

[facilitatorn]

There are major ramp ups to let Ukraine throw longer punches and keep its best stuff on the field more regularly.

There have been massing. As the ground freezes there will be pressings and then all will see if the lead to any breakthroughs for either side.

I am not sure how watching the conscripted Russian army surrender under friendly fire or freeze to death in the open will play domestically in Russia. However I am pretty sure that whatever the Russians do to them, Ukraine will remain strongly together against the Russian aggressor for as long as it takes to get them out. 

[Oilcandide]

It will be Afghanistan II, for Russia.  They're slow learners those tovarichi. 

[Oilcandide]

This is just some background reading on what some foreign policy experts are saying we should be thinking about, in terms of a possible escalation to war with either China or Russia.  About a ten minute read.  Among other things, it gets into what scenarios are likely if the US actually decided to give military support (direct action) to Taiwan, and how few living Americans have real experience of a world war and the levels of sacrifice and suffering it would involve. 

https://archive.ph/2022.12.02-155532/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/02/opinion/america-world-war-iii.html

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[bambu.]

This is just some background reading on what some foreign policy experts are saying we should be thinking about, in terms of a possible escalation to war with either China or Russia.  About a ten minute read.  Among other things, it gets into what scenarios are likely if the US actually decided to give military support (direct action) to Taiwan, and how few living Americans have real experience of a world war and the levels of sacrifice and suffering it would involve. 

https://archive.ph/2022.12.02-155532/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/02/opinion/america-world-war-iii.html

(PW free screenshot)

Time for the West to write letters to The People of Russia and The People of China...telling them that if Russia or China fires nukes at the West/NATO countries, that nuclear missiles will rain down on China and/or Russia and they will likely be dead or horribly maimed for life, trying to live in a nuclear wasteland.

End with:
"Kiss your family and give them all a big hug tonite, they could be turned into ash next week if Putin or Xi fires nukes at anyone."

*******

Fighting WW3 against China, Russia and their allies should not be left to the US alone...now, a coalition of US aligned nations should be formed.
Countries having to decide..."IN or OUT".

The West seems hopeless at hacking the militaries, infrastructure, etc of Eastern nations.