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Russia will gain eastern Ukraine territories and hold them, as it has Crimea

5 (45.5%)

Russia will temporarily gain eastern Ukraine territories before being forced out of them

2 (18.2%)

Efforts to confront the Russian forces and get them out of Ukraine will lead to Putin's escalating and attacking NATO countries directly with missiles or other destructive measures

0 (0%)

The NATO/World response will be so mild that Putin will go ahead and take the rest of Ukraine

3 (27.3%)

Today Ukraine, tomorrow Moldova and who knows where else

1 (9.1%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: March 01, 2022, 01:18:43 PM

[LarryBnDC]

The slaughter in Bucha has EU looking at their red line on oil and gas...

https://archive.ph/XwYW7

The government declined to comment on allegations from Polands prime minister that Germany is the main roadblock to tougher sanctions.

There is widespread outrage in Germany, and German politicians will be forced to do something, but they dont want to do something that will hurt Germany, Dirsus said. There are no good options left. Massive sanctions would do damage to Germany. But do nothing and you are complicit. (Dirsus)

Russia has demanded that unfriendly countries pay for gas in rubles, or risk getting no gas at all. You almost get the impression that they want Putin to pull the plug for them, Dirsus added. Pressure would die down and they wouldnt be responsible for all the misery.

Fake news, right?

[bambu.]

Ukraine had security guarantees.
Look what's happened.
Other countries with security guarantees are watching what's happening to Ukraine and basically crying. Crying for Ukraine, and crying for themselves and what the slaughter in Ukraine means for them.
They are looking at their families and knowing they will be all blown to bits in their homes by the invaders.
They foolishly signed nuclear non-proliferation treaties, believing in the UN and alliances.

[luee]

Send them jet planes give the brave ukes a chance Joe. You already rightfully called Putin a war criminal! A little 12 o clock high over the Kremlin would end the war in a hurry.

[Holly Martins]

No it wouldn't you lunatic. 

[josh]

Send them jet planes give the brave ukes a chance Joe. You already rightfully called Putin a war criminal! A little 12 o clock high over the Kremlin would end the war in a hurry.

Hey, then we could possibly kill one war criminal and create a new one!

[luee]

It is a crime to see Ukraine being destroyed innocents killed and to only seize a yacht or two and declare another useless sanction.
Old Mr. compromise just is not good enough.

[facilitatorn]

Better than the old mr. Belly-up who preceded him.

Get on a plane to Poland, luee. Then head east and see if your ass can cash that check.

[luee]

Better than the old mr. Belly-up who preceded him.

Get on a plane to Poland, luee. Then head east and see if your ass can cash that check.

Huh! Too abstract. Members of both parties are now asking for more help for the Ukraine. Enough of the platitudes and walk back speeches.

[facilitatorn]

Thanks for the platitude. Packed yet?

[luee]

---President Joe Biden said evidence needs to be gathered to put Russian leader Vladimir Putin on trial for war crimes related to his nation

[bambu.]

Nothing, absolutely nothing will happen to Putin.
You watch.

Russian soldiers are scum of the earth...torturing and murdering adults and children.

[Oilcandide]

https://www.npr.org/2022/04/05/1090989328/australia-steps-up-missile-upgrade-due-to-growing-threats-from-china-and-russia

Here's something to help uncurl you from that foetal position. 

[josh]

It is a crime to see Ukraine being destroyed innocents killed and to only seize a yacht or two and declare another useless sanction.
Old Mr. compromise just is not good enough.

Remember, as Luee deliberately misrepresents what is going on that Luee was telling us how we should do nothing in the weeks before the invasion because there would be no invasion and Biden, et all, were jumping at shadows.

[josh]

Nothing, absolutely nothing will happen to Putin.
You watch.

We'll watch, Bambu.

Unlike Luee, we're not hopping a flight to Poland to go fight in the war, so watching is what we are left with.

But unless Putin kills himself, I would be surprised if he did not stand trial for war crimes - it just won't be fast enough.

[Hairy Lime]

It is a crime to see Ukraine being destroyed innocents killed and to only seize a yacht or two and declare another useless sanction.
Old Mr. compromise just is not good enough.

Remember, as Luee deliberately misrepresents what is going on that Luee was telling us how we should do nothing in the weeks before the invasion because there would be no invasion and Biden, et all, were jumping at shadows.

Well now, luee also told us Ukrainians were Nazis.