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What will be the outcome of Russia's invasion of Ukraine?

Russia will gain eastern Ukraine territories and hold them, as it has Crimea
- 5 (45.5%)
Russia will temporarily gain eastern Ukraine territories before being forced out of them
- 2 (18.2%)
Efforts to confront the Russian forces and get them out of Ukraine will lead to Putin's escalating and attacking NATO countries directly with missiles or other destructive measures
- 0 (0%)
The NATO/World response will be so mild that Putin will go ahead and take the rest of Ukraine
- 3 (27.3%)
Today Ukraine, tomorrow Moldova and who knows where else
- 1 (9.1%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: March 01, 2022, 01:18:43 PM


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« Reply #405 on: March 09, 2022, 12:28:51 PM »

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"We're preparing for a new Russian offensive. We've ordered 50 extra busses for POWs."

Mykolaiv Oblast Governor Vitaliy Kim is fast earning a reputation for astonishing panache under pressure.
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« Reply #406 on: March 09, 2022, 12:43:28 PM »

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/3/8/2084548/--The-Z-sign-is-the-symbol-for-people-who-cannot-even-draw-a-swastika-properly

There is a nice breakdown on the Russian economy as it relates to Mexican avocados in this piece. Well worth the read.
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« Reply #407 on: March 09, 2022, 03:03:13 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/09/europe/russia-conscripts-fighting-ukraine-intl/index.html

Putin's denying that the conscripts were part of the invasion force was stupid.

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A day earlier, in an International Women's Day address, Putin had reassured soldiers' mothers and wives that Russian conscripts are not taking part in his invasion of Ukraine, which he has referred to as a "special military operation."
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #408 on: March 09, 2022, 03:14:16 PM »

BTW, anyone know why some news outlets are putting Russian oil imports, as a percentage of total US consumption, at 3% (Forbes, et al) and some at 8% (WSJ, et al)?

I sense there are two different metrics being used here.

A shock I imagine, but I was actually not being rhetorical. Kind of baffling.  And somebody even posted a 1% figure. 
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« Reply #409 on: March 09, 2022, 03:19:14 PM »

BTW, anyone know why some news outlets are putting Russian oil imports, as a percentage of total US consumption, at 3% (Forbes, et al) and some at 8% (WSJ, et al)?

I sense there are two different metrics being used here.

A shock I imagine, but I was actually not being rhetorical. Kind of baffling.  And somebody even posted a 1% figure.

"The US imported about 672,000 barrels per day of crude oil and petroleum products from Russia in 2021, according to data from the Energy Dept." (per NYP)

Let's take that number at face value. We can figure out the percentage from there.
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« Reply #410 on: March 09, 2022, 03:23:20 PM »

BTW, anyone know why some news outlets are putting Russian oil imports, as a percentage of total US consumption, at 3% (Forbes, et al) and some at 8% (WSJ, et al)?

I sense there are two different metrics being used here.

A shock I imagine, but I was actually not being rhetorical. Kind of baffling.  And somebody even posted a 1% figure.

"The US imported about 672,000 barrels per day of crude oil and petroleum products from Russia in 2021, according to data from the Energy Dept." (per NYP)

Let's take that number at face value. We can figure out the percentage from there.

But part of the problem is what the percent is of.

From WSJ:
"About 8% of U.S. imports of oil and refined products, or about 672,000 barrels a day, came from Russia last year, said Andy Lipow, president of Lipow Oil Associates LLC in Houston, citing figures from the Energy Information Administration. Of that, Russia's crude made up roughly 3% of the nation's imports, about 200,000 barrels a day. "

It's no wonder we're confused.
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« Reply #412 on: March 09, 2022, 06:49:44 PM »

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« Reply #413 on: March 09, 2022, 11:08:02 PM »



It's no wonder we're confused.
Speak for yourself
The rest of us can understand English
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« Reply #414 on: March 09, 2022, 11:15:27 PM »

From Russia with Death....

Youch. And not a point many are making when they talk about Kremlin assets.
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« Reply #415 on: March 09, 2022, 11:44:00 PM »



It's no wonder we're confused.
Speak for yourself
The rest of us can understand English

I would look forward to your explanation of the apparently contradictory sentences, but I know you can't do it, you can only posture.
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« Reply #418 on: March 10, 2022, 12:23:43 AM »



It's no wonder we're confused.
Speak for yourself
The rest of us can understand English

I would look forward to your explanation of the apparently contradictory sentences, but I know you can't do it, you can only posture.
the USA imports 8 per cent of its oil from Russia of which 3 per cent is crude.
You can look it up.
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« Reply #419 on: March 10, 2022, 12:30:49 AM »

We can decarbonize 8% in a year and not miss it.

Build Back Better, for the war effort and also for world peace.

Keep marching.

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