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What will be the outcome of Russia's invasion of Ukraine?

Russia will gain eastern Ukraine territories and hold them, as it has Crimea
- 5 (45.5%)
Russia will temporarily gain eastern Ukraine territories before being forced out of them
- 2 (18.2%)
Efforts to confront the Russian forces and get them out of Ukraine will lead to Putin's escalating and attacking NATO countries directly with missiles or other destructive measures
- 0 (0%)
The NATO/World response will be so mild that Putin will go ahead and take the rest of Ukraine
- 3 (27.3%)
Today Ukraine, tomorrow Moldova and who knows where else
- 1 (9.1%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: March 01, 2022, 01:18:43 PM


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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #1005 on: April 19, 2022, 02:15:33 PM »

Russia has deployed up to 20,000 mercenaries from Syria, Libya and elsewhere in Ukraine
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #1006 on: April 19, 2022, 02:17:47 PM »

The mercenaries are being thrown into the Russian effort to capture as much as possible of eastern Ukraine, in what western defence officials have described as a rush to have some sort of victory that Vladimir Putin can announce at the 9 May military parade in Moscow commemorating the second world war.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #1007 on: April 19, 2022, 02:19:27 PM »

The hope is that Putin will come to his senses and just stop the war

There is no hope that he will come to his senses.

There is slight hope that he will see a threat to his position if he continues and therefore stop, but it seems unlikely.

Nor is there much hope of sufficient uprising of Russians because of the deaths of tens of thousands of their soldiers.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #1008 on: April 19, 2022, 02:49:09 PM »

Hang on a minute...refugees from Russia?
Where's the war in Russia?
So they'd be 'economic refugees/immigrants' looking for a better life?
Pouring into Alaska/US...nice, and just where will they be living, working, getting treatment in hospitals etc?

Be it ever so humble there's no place like Nome!
Where the Russian refugees can dine on the best Eggs Benedict. Because as everyone knows, there is no place like Nome for the hollandaise.

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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #1009 on: April 19, 2022, 02:50:02 PM »

Russia has deployed up to 20,000 mercenaries from Syria, Libya and elsewhere in Ukraine


More cannon fodder.

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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #1010 on: April 19, 2022, 02:55:01 PM »

Hang on a minute...refugees from Russia?
Where's the war in Russia?
So they'd be 'economic refugees/immigrants' looking for a better life?
Pouring into Alaska/US...nice, and just where will they be living, working, getting treatment in hospitals etc?

Be it ever so humble there's no place like Nome!
Where the Russian refugees can dine on the best Eggs Benedict. Because as everyone knows, there is no place like Nome for the hollandaise.

There's no topping that. 

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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #1011 on: April 19, 2022, 03:01:15 PM »

It is ironic that we are discussing Putin on Elba, as the parallels with Napoleon exist, and it would be great to just remove Putin at this time and banish him to a small island.

Nice jokes about Nome and Eggs Benedict.

Bambu, sadly desperate people will sometimes do bad things such as fight as mercenaries for bad people, that is why we need for the World Bank and the IMF and the Peace Corps and others to do good things and to help to create good opportunities for the desperate people. They can be trained to be nurses at hospitals, etc, and they can do other good things, if they are given honest opportunities instead of bad opportunities. We need to create honest opportunities so that people can stay honest. And for instance, in Colombia they used to have child soldiers fighting for the communist drug dealers, but that is all over now, now we help the children to go to school, and we help to feed the children, and we buy the Colombian coffee, etc, and things are improving in Colombia. Colombia is a success story, and we need to keep buying the Colombian coffee and we need to keep educating the children, we are making a lot of progress in Colombia. And the President of Colombia attended Harvard.

We need for the world to become a better, more civilized place, not get worse. And as we have millions of homeless and displaced people in the world we need to guide our world towards getting the people into housing, and we need to expand education, etc. And Latin America needs libraries, etc, and the USA needs more book stores, etc.

Instead of moving towards violence, and brutality, and ignorance, and selfishness, and greed, then we need to move towards kindness, and civility, and generosity, and towards wisdom.

The people of the USA need to all be equal, and we need to have brotherhood for the good from sea to shining sea. And we need to be a force for good in the world, and advancements in medical care, we need to keep giving good things to the world.

And with all of the television, and radio, and movies, and books, etc, we need to strive to give good stuff to the world that will help us to be better people.

Colombia is a success story, and we need to keep moving ahead in good ways.

We also have Kiwanis International and other groups helping people.

The world must not let people like Putin cause us to become uncivilized. And the killing and raping must stop.

And for instance, I have seen the bad that illegal drugs cause in the world, and thus I would never be a drug dealer, no matter how hungry I get I am not going to sell cocaine or meth or heroin, I would starve and die and still not sell illegal drugs, and so if we can reach the children young we can teach them to avoid the illegal drugs, and if we teach them honest ways to make money then they are not going to do bad things out of desperation. For the youth it is all about education, education, and more education. And we can use film and television and music to try to teach people, etc.

We need peace and we need to be civilized. They say for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, but we need more than that, we need to stop Putin and we need to help the people, plus deal with the issues that we have outside of Putin.

Salute,

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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #1012 on: April 19, 2022, 03:30:32 PM »

Here is the link for UNICEF in Ukraine...

https://www.unicef.org/ukraine/en

I once worked for a Vet who was Marine who served as a dog handler in World War II, and he had a photo of the United Nations on the wall of his dog kennel, and he believed that the UN could prevent World War III, he had great hopes for the UN.

And Audrey Hepburn starved as a child during World War II, they named a tulip after her because she ate flowers when she was starving. Audrey fully supported UNICEF. God bless UNICEF for going in and feeding the hungry children of war.

Salute,

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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #1013 on: April 19, 2022, 03:50:20 PM »

The mercenaries are being thrown into the Russian effort to capture as much as possible of eastern Ukraine, in what western defence officials have described as a rush to have some sort of victory that Vladimir Putin can announce at the 9 May military parade in Moscow commemorating the second world war.

Sooner or later the FSB is gonna take out Putin
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #1014 on: April 19, 2022, 04:24:30 PM »

The World Bank and the IMF are already planning how to rebuild Ukraine after the war, money and banking are a huge part of civilization, and they not only want to rebuild Ukraine, but they want to rebuild Ukraine to be better than how it was before the war. Like Biden they want to BUILD BACK BETTER. So, that is good, we have people in powerful positions who are planning on how to build Ukraine back better than how it was before the war.

The World Bank also said that people need to lock in low interest rates on their loans before inflation causes the rates to rise. They want for the poor nations to lock in their loans at low rates before the rates rise. And when poor nations borrow money, they do not want them to borrow to just stay at the same level of debt, they want for the people to plan and borrow enough money so that they can improve their situation and rise out of debt. We need for people to plan, and to study, and to learn, so that they can rise and succeed when they are given the funding that they need. We need for the people of Ukraine to plan and prepare so that they can build back better after the war is over, the money will be there when they need it, they need to plan on how to best spend the money when the time comes.

Salute,

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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #1015 on: April 19, 2022, 06:44:17 PM »

Putin has gotten only more evil since he has jumped into bed with, broken, and ridden English speaking conservative parties, republicans, tories, and Scummos gang in Oz. It goes to prove even in its nastiest form love rubs off both ways strengthening the affinities of the lovers.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #1016 on: April 19, 2022, 06:57:48 PM »

Putin has gotten only more evil since he has jumped into bed with, broken, and ridden English speaking conservative parties, republicans, tories, and Scummos gang in Oz. It goes to prove even in its nastiest form love rubs off both ways strengthening the affinities of the lovers.

Putin didn't get as far as Oz, the Russian Bear is 'king' in Indonesia/Asia.
The 'US President' is 'king' in Australia.

No need for US troops to get slaughtered trying to defend Australia...all that's needed in bambuland are nukes of all types, including nuke armed subs.
China etc need to know that any invasion of Australia would see millions die in their homelands, and their large cities wiped out.
Ukraine was not prepared, no nukes etc...look what's happening to it as a result.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #1017 on: April 19, 2022, 10:17:17 PM »

Hang on a minute...refugees from Russia?
Where's the war in Russia?
So they'd be 'economic refugees/immigrants' looking for a better life?
Pouring into Alaska/US...nice, and just where will they be living, working, getting treatment in hospitals etc?

Usually a strong ethic there - but some are in gangs I am sure.
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Re: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
« Reply #1018 on: April 20, 2022, 12:09:34 AM »

Hang on a minute...refugees from Russia?
Where's the war in Russia?
So they'd be 'economic refugees/immigrants' looking for a better life?
Pouring into Alaska/US...nice, and just where will they be living, working, getting treatment in hospitals etc?

Usually a strong ethic there - but some are in gangs I am sure.

Yes, Russian mafia is a good bet.
No ID or background checks needed..."come one, come all, welcome to your new and better life".
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« Reply #1019 on: April 20, 2022, 11:14:34 AM »

Hang on a minute...refugees from Russia?
Where's the war in Russia?
So they'd be 'economic refugees/immigrants' looking for a better life?
Pouring into Alaska/US...nice, and just where will they be living, working, getting treatment in hospitals etc?

Usually a strong ethic there - but some are in gangs I am sure.

Yes, Russian mafia is a good bet.
No ID or background checks needed..."come one, come all, welcome to your new and better life".
You have no clue how the system works or what our policy actually is.
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