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Russia will gain eastern Ukraine territories and hold them, as it has Crimea

5 (45.5%)

Russia will temporarily gain eastern Ukraine territories before being forced out of them

2 (18.2%)

Efforts to confront the Russian forces and get them out of Ukraine will lead to Putin's escalating and attacking NATO countries directly with missiles or other destructive measures

0 (0%)

The NATO/World response will be so mild that Putin will go ahead and take the rest of Ukraine

3 (27.3%)

Today Ukraine, tomorrow Moldova and who knows where else

1 (9.1%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: March 01, 2022, 01:18:43 PM

[bambu.]

Love?
Russia, China and Iran dish out tough love.
The only way to beat that is with
pute hate.
Trouble is, Western leaders today are all warm and fuzzy...bambuworld roads are fast being taken over by Chinese cars.
China hurls insults, and bambuland
lets in more Chinese cars...lol.
 

[Hairy Lime]

Love?
Russia, China and Iran dish out tough love.
The only way to beat that is with
pute hate.
Trouble is, Western leaders today are all warm and fuzzy...bambuworld roads are fast being taken over by Chinese cars.
China hurls insults, and bambuland
lets in more Chinese cars...lol.

Of course there are foreign cars. Australian cars all have pouches instead of trunks. Not very useful.

[Holly Martins]

Now, now, there is nothing like a car that's all mar-souped up. And the springs are amazing.  First time I drove one I was like "wall aby damned!"

[FlyingVProd]

Love?
Russia, China and Iran dish out tough love.
The only way to beat that is with
pute hate.
Trouble is, Western leaders today are all warm and fuzzy...bambuworld roads are fast being taken over by Chinese cars.
China hurls insults, and bambuland
lets in more Chinese cars...lol.

We need to love and nurture our fellow human beings globally, and we need to build allies to work for peace. And we have the United Nations.

We had peace with Russia, and after the Berlin Wall came down in Germany, and after the Russians got their freedom, they had a huge rock concert with Pantera and many other American bands, the Russians love American Rock and Roll. We should have kept up the friendship with the Russians, and we should have nurtured the good people in Russia. We have the situation that we have today because we neglected to nurture our relationship with the good people in Russia when Russia was peaceful. Russians love Rock and Roll, and Americans were playing music in front of huge crowds in Russia, we should have kept it up and we should have nurtured our friendship.

There are people who are making money from weapons who want wars, they want you to be afraid so you will spend money on weapons, etc. They cannot make money from peace. So, it is all bullshit. There are people who want to focus on the bad in the world and they want you to spend money for protection. While I agree in being armed, and being able to defend ourselves, I do not agree that we have to have wars with these people, I think we can find the good people to support against the bad people. We need to find allies, we need to find good people to support, and we need to nurture our relationships with the good people.

I had a roommate who was the daughter of a Chinese general, she loves Malibu, she is not our enemy. We need to build relationships with people like my former roommate from China, instead of being enemies. We need to find the people who love us, and we need to love them back. We need to nurture our relationships with our allies.

Mahlagha Jaberi is from Iran, she is not our enemy. She lives in San Diego now. Mahlagha is great, and we need to nurture relationships with the good people from Iran, and we need to support the good people in Iran. The bad people are in the minority, I am sure that the good people are in the majority. We need to support the majority of people who are good people, and we need to nurture relationships with the good people.

In Russia right now we have allies there, there are good people in Russia right now who love us, and who hate what is happening right now in Ukraine, we need to support the good people in Russia in removing the bad people. We need to find our allies in Russia and we need to work together with our allies to stop the war and to remove and punish the bad guys.

One can never get lazy when it comes to our CIA and when it comes to nurturing relationships with the good people. It is like when you raise children, you are responsible for the adults that they become, if you neglect to love and nurture your children then you might end up with bad children, it is important to love and nurture our relationships with the good people around the world, we must never get lazy when it comes to nurturing relationships with the good people.

The Pope is ready to go to Ukraine right now. We need a world-wide global effort to work for peace in conjunction with the Pope. We need mass diplomacy, and we need to reach out to our allies in Russia, while at the same time we can surgically remove bad people and the good people can help us to remove the bad people. Make no mistake, Putin must be held accountable for his crimes, but there are good people in Russia who are against Putin who can take over Russia and remove the bad people.

Instead of just weapons, and war, we need to learn how to do diplomacy, and we need to learn how to nurture relationships with the good people.

Salute,

Tony V.

[bambu.]

Russia rules the UN.
The good people in Russia can do nothing, as the bad people in Russia are not interested in diplom
acy, only interested in slaughtering the population of Ukraine and taking Ukraine as part of Russia.
Putin is only one person, so there are many people in Russia behind the invasion/slaughter.
Chinese warships are cruising along the coast of Australia, obviously looking fir suitable landing sites for the invasion by its 2 million troops, tanks, missile launchers etc.
Ms Jaberi is not running Iran, unfortunately. The ayatollahs are.
Peace and love are things of past
eras.
Chairman Mao's words are the standard today:
"Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun".
*
Yes, the man with the biggest and best guns wins.
It has always been so.
A man with no guns has no power and no hope...in every facet of life today.
Self defence, home defence, school defence, country's defence.
American men know it, it's why they want the biggest and best guns.

[bambu.]

Now Russia is saying that Alaska is part of Russia.
O oh.

[josh]

Now Russia is saying that Alaska is part of Russia.
O oh.

Two week old hyperbole.

[FlyingVProd]

Cleopatra did not rule with the barrel of a gun.

Though I agree we must have a good defense and the best weapons.

The thing is, when all that you have is a hammer, then everything is a nail. We need more tools than just weapons, and we need to use our brains and our hearts.

And we need more filmmakers like Frank Capra was to help to lead Hollywood. And we need better television shows and films and we need better music.

The Russians love American Rock and Roll, we need to give them what they want, we need to find the good people and support the good people as they remove the bad people, like we did in Italy in World War II, we removed the Germans and the Italians killed Mussolini themselves, and then we turned Italy over to the good Italians. We need to help the good people to remove Putin and we need to put the good people in charge of Russia.

And I wish that Mahlagha Jaberi was in charge of Iran, she could be like Cleopatra was in Egypt. And we need for our CIA to always let us know who are our friends who we can support.

Salute,

Tony V.

[josh]

Cleopatra did not rule with the barrel of a gun.

No, just with a powerful and weaponed guard.

[FlyingVProd]

We also have MONEY as a tool, and world trade as a tool, etc.

We can go in and pay the Russians in Russia to rise up against Putin, we can give financial support to people who want to over-throw Putin. And then when the people remove Putin then we can support the good people by re-establishing world trade, etc.

With Putin in power the only future for the Russians is poverty, we need to convince the Russians that they must remove Putin to have prosperity, with the peace will come prosperity.

We need to give money and weapons and support to our allies in Russia to remove Putin and to restore peace, and with peace will come prosperity.

Salute,

Tony V.

[bambu.]

Of course Russia has won...Ukrainians being told to evacuate certain parts and told by local authorities to accept Russian rule in others or be arrested.
Europe and the rest of the world basically did *nothing* to stop Russia.

[facilitatorn]

Maybe if Ukraine could get a gun .  .  .

[FlyingVProd]

Now This

The first ship carrying Ukrainian grain set out Monday from the port of Odesa under an internationally brokered deal to unblock the country's agricultural exports.

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The local news stopped covering the situation in Ukraine, we had a reporter who went to Ukraine on her own to report the story but then for some reason she quit, she said she wants to start a new chapter in her life, Christina Pascucci, so now no one is reporting on what is going on in Ukraine. Christina kept us well informed on Ukraine, but she said she wanted to do other things with her life and she retired as a reporter. Christina was a great reporter, it is sad that she quit. For some reason she just quit her job, and no one else has been reporting on Ukraine.

Salute,

Tony V.

[LarryBnDC]

As Putin prepped and then launched the Russian invasion of Ukraine, many top conservatives (a) rushed to his defense and (b) blamed Biden for it.

But whether, as the GOP would have it, this only happened because of Biden's weakness, or this only happened because of GOP coddling of and support for Putin, it has happened.

The truth of the matter is that it shouldn't matter whether our president is strong or weak or our opposition party is encouraging and complicit or supportive of the occupant of the White House. The person responsible for this invasion is Vladimir Putin, would-be President-for-Life of Russia.

What do you think should be our response at this point and what, if anything, should the NATO response be?

Keep doing what is being done and increase the weaponry.

Russia is getting squeezed inside and outside.

[facilitatorn]

http://news.yahoo.com/sculpture-vladimir-putin-riding-miniature-062653239.html