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« Reply #20446 on: September 16, 2021, 07:58:06 PM »

Fucking assholes

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/20/san-francisco-statues-ulysses-s-grant-junipero-serra-francis-scott-key

ONCE AGAIN, Kiid Has Outdone Himself.  Did you read the fucking article?  Spare us your white supremacist outrage. 

In 1814, Key was a slaveholding lawyer from an old Maryland plantation family, who thanks to a system of human bondage had grown rich and powerful.

When he wrote the poem that would, in 1931, become the national anthem and proclaim our nation

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,
A home and a country, should leave us no more?
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave,
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

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« Reply #20447 on: September 16, 2021, 09:14:39 PM »

The article is over a year old.

It is good Kid can now cheer and support the toppling of statues of slave owning assholes.

Kid is either making progress or I am giving him too much credit and he is sinking further into the lead piped bullshit factory that consumes him.
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« Reply #20449 on: September 16, 2021, 10:43:55 PM »

Fucking assholes

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/20/san-francisco-statues-ulysses-s-grant-junipero-serra-francis-scott-key

Sorry

Wrong forum.

Total disgrace in Golden Gate Park.

The Key space now shows sculptures of 350 blacks surrounding the "monument", representing the first slaves from 1619.  No problem with that whatsoever.
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« Reply #20450 on: September 16, 2021, 11:41:47 PM »

The disgrace is wherever you are posting from and Austin and Tallahassee and Palm Beach.

Also you should stop fucking yourself long enough to find a country to emigrate to.

I know anything more than that is too much for you Kiid so I will leave it there.
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« Reply #20451 on: September 16, 2021, 11:47:29 PM »

I hear Hungary is nice this time of year ...

Yeah, I'm looking forward to Pre-season, not Summer League.
Believe we play WASh a lot, which is a fun team to check in on this year.

Might need to finally pay for a VPN, as the gov't seems to be thwarting the free ones I've relied on.  As in I can't even get to theose youtube vids for now.
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« Reply #20452 on: September 17, 2021, 12:40:38 AM »

I think Chamaaco is just messing with you guys.
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« Reply #20453 on: September 17, 2021, 09:31:52 PM »

Frank fully guaranteed by Mavs this year with team option for year two.
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« Reply #20454 on: September 18, 2021, 03:18:38 PM »

Well, clearly DAL doesn't see Franc as a PG:
Luka is the functional PG.  Brunson a young quality backup.  Also Trey Burke and Tyrell Terry.
I assume Franc is mostly SG injury insurance, and available in case Sterling Borwn or Josh Green aren't up for the task.  Hard to see Franc getting minutes without injuries or those two underwhelming.
Tim Jr, Bullox and Funky-Smith will take up most of the wing minutes.
Though team could go smallball if/when KZ is enfeebled.


Aaron Gordon for $22M per?  Seems to be making a career out of having potential and almost ready for a break out.  Good energy guy, very athletic, not always making smart plays or focused enough. Can he impact winning?  Maybe it'll work with DEN not asking too much of him.  But then is he worth $22M ...



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« Reply #20455 on: September 18, 2021, 05:27:58 PM »

Well, clearly DAL doesn't see Franc as a PG:
Luka is the functional PG.  Brunson a young quality backup.  Also Trey Burke and Tyrell Terry.
I assume Franc is mostly SG injury insurance, and available in case Sterling Borwn or Josh Green aren't up for the task.  Hard to see Franc getting minutes without injuries or those two underwhelming.
Tim Jr, Bullox and Funky-Smith will take up most of the wing minutes.
Though team could go smallball if/when KZ is enfeebled.


Aaron Gordon for $22M per?  Seems to be making a career out of having potential and almost ready for a break out.  Good energy guy, very athletic, not always making smart plays or focused enough. Can he impact winning?  Maybe it'll work with DEN not asking too much of him.  But then is he worth $22M ...

Beauty Is In The Eye Of The Beholder

Aaron's stats don't jump out at you like Evan's. 

But look who he will teamed with in Denver?

Nikola Jokic, Michael Porter, Jaamal Murray

Gordon and Jeff Green give them depth at SF/PF. 

Gordon just turned 26.   

Evan Fournier   $17,142,857   $18,000,000   $18,857,143   $19,000,000 [Team Option]

Julius Randle   $21,780,000   $26,136,000   $28,226,880   $30,317,760   $32,408,640 [Player Option]

As for the Dallas Half Knicks?

Porzingis
Bullock
Hardaway
Ntilikina
Burke
Harper [Jared]

Yes, Dallas is pretty deep at PG/SG. 

However, not so much at the wing, where Frank could spell Bullock at SF. 

We know about Bullock's D, and his catch and shoot pedigree on the Knicks, where while I am sure we wanted to make Reggie an offer, while we were sealing the deal on Fournier, who is more proactive in creating his own offense at SF, Bullock went to Dallas, where camping out in his accustomed corner Toll Booth as Doncic breaks down the defense, Reggie could be good for 15-18 a night easy.  And if Frank gets 15-18 minutes a night, for defensive matchups, let's recall that Frank in limited minutes with the Knicks hit 23-48 3-Pointers, mostly from that corner spot, which is a .479% clip over less than ten minutes a night over 33 games. 

Dallas does not have much depth at Wing/Small Forward.  In the era of Small Ball/Positionless Hoops, Frank will have a chance to remake himself, in what promises to be three-four guard sets. 

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #20456 on: September 19, 2021, 12:24:38 AM »

Tim Jr., Bullocks and Funky-Smith are all combo wings and should eat up most/all the SG/SF minutes.  Since Luka usually guards the least threatening F/SG, there could be minutes for Franc guarding the other team's PG, especially if the team has a quick dynamic backup PG.   Penetrating PG's could give DAL trouble if they task Tim/Reg/Dorian with trying to stick them.  You don't want Tim, 2nd leading scorer, getting in foul trouble that way, as happened some last year.  Brunson is game but still somewhat green at that end. 

So I've revised, Franc could come in as a specialist defensively at PG.  And on O, he has to be better to launch when open, or move the ball crisply.  We all knew Franc's future at PG was highly questionable when he would make grade school telegraphed cross-court passes.  Along with barely able to bring the ball upcourt under pressure, and routinely giving the ball up 35' out.  Combined with the lack of shooting/scoring, and Franc is a marginal NBA player.  Hope he can figure it out and stick around -- he has improved his shot -- but next stop might be Marseilles.
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« Reply #20457 on: September 19, 2021, 11:55:52 AM »

Chip sniffing the glue again (this time re. Ntlikina and Bullock

Reg won't get the shots.  Frank won't get the minutes
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« Reply #20458 on: September 19, 2021, 12:55:48 PM »

Well, clearly DAL doesn't see Franc as a PG:
Luka is the functional PG.  Brunson a young quality backup.  Also Trey Burke and Tyrell Terry.


Not at al certain that T Terry factors in one bit - and I dont see Burke there.  But so many games will see Luka+Brunson surpass 48 minutes total that there wont BE any 3rd PG run.

Frank may be it in name only, not actual play.
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« Reply #20459 on: September 19, 2021, 01:53:45 PM »

Chip sniffing the glue again (this time re. Ntlikina and Bullock

Reg won't get the shots.  Frank won't get the minutes

Not at al certain that T Terry factors in one bit - and I dont see Burke there.

I like it when ChamAco debates ChamAAco 😜🤩🤪
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