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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[REDSTATEWARD]

In Israel Scientists maintain that natural immunity to Covid is stronger than vaccines in preventing infection.

...and they strenuously push vaccination because natural immunity can only be achieved by sacrificing hundreds of thousands of people.  The whole point of vaccination is that it is better for millions to get mildly sick or asymptomatic, than to do nothing and let many vulnerable persons die or be seriously ill and have longterm health afflictions.   If you ever start to know what you're talking about, instead of spewing ignorant shit from your anus, please let us know.

Do you disagree with what Starbucks has done?

No. 

[REDSTATEWARD]

52 per cent of the Senate upholds the Filibuster.

[LarryBnDC]

https://twitter.com/bse229/status/1484007688866566150?s=21

[LarryBnDC]

Dems had a damn good day.

[josh]

[facilitatorn]

52 per cent of the Senate upholds the Filibuster.

Those are Russian comfort senators. It is not rude but patriotic to throw rocks at them, their property, and the infrastructure of their campaigns.

[Holly Martins]

In Israel Scientists maintain that natural immunity to Covid is stronger than vaccines in preventing infection.

...and they strenuously push vaccination because natural immunity can only be achieved by sacrificing hundreds of thousands of people.  The whole point of vaccination is that it is better for millions to get mildly sick or asymptomatic, than to do nothing and let many vulnerable persons die or be seriously ill and have longterm health afflictions.   If you ever start to know what you're talking about, instead of spewing ignorant shit from your anus, please let us know.

You might want to get your apples and oranges sorted out.
The USA has had 1,605 infections per 100K people reported in the  last 7 days.
Israel, with a vaccination rate of nearly 98 percent, has had 3200 infections per 100k people in the same period.

Lowers the death rate.  In a country with thorough testing, infection rates from omicron breakthrough will be higher, but vaccine greatly reduces deaths and serious illness.  As Oil already explained.  May I suggest an ESL course, to boost your reading skills?

And no, I don't support Starfucks.  Vaccines need to be mandatory, just as they have been for a dozen other serious contagious diseases.  The conflict between public safety and FREEDUMB!!! is generally resolved by the duty to prevent serious harm and not swamp ERs and ICUs, just as with stop signs, red lights, seatbelts, indoor smoking bans, speed limits, and school vaccinations.

[Holly Martins]

https://twitter.com/bse229/status/1484007688866566150?s=21

"As Americans." Was that a Kinsley Gaffe?  Or did he just forget to add "generally" or "in total"? 

Imagine if a Clinton said that. 

But no, we're probably not going to have that quote fed back to us by partisans for the next five plus years.  Because Progressives actually have real things they want to get done.

[REDSTATEWARD]

In Israel Scientists maintain that natural immunity to Covid is stronger than vaccines in preventing infection.

...and they strenuously push vaccination because natural immunity can only be achieved by sacrificing hundreds of thousands of people.  The whole point of vaccination is that it is better for millions to get mildly sick or asymptomatic, than to do nothing and let many vulnerable persons die or be seriously ill and have longterm health afflictions.   If you ever start to know what you're talking about, instead of spewing ignorant shit from your anus, please let us know.

You might want to get your apples and oranges sorted out.
The USA has had 1,605 infections per 100K people reported in the  last 7 days.
Israel, with a vaccination rate of nearly 98 percent, has had 3200 infections per 100k people in the same period.

Lowers the death rate.  In a country with thorough testing, infection rates from omicron breakthrough will be higher, but vaccine greatly reduces deaths and serious illness.  As Oil already explained.  May I suggest an ESL course, to boost your reading skills?

And no, I don't support Starfucks.  Vaccines need to be mandatory, just as they have been for a dozen other serious contagious diseases. 

Advice YOU should take.
The CDC has already said   Surviving a previous infection  provided better protection than vaccination against Covid-19 during the Delta wave, citing research showing that both the shots and recovery  from the virus provided Better  protection. Doctors also said  the research also did not  apply to the current Omicron wave. It would  be like comparing apples  and oranges. (WSJ 1/20/22)

And no, I do not support Starfucks.  Vaccines need to be mandatory, just as they have been for a dozen other serious contagious diseases.

Then have Congress mandate them. That is the Constitutional remedy. The only one.
Without it we follow our employer or make our own decisions.

[REDSTATEWARD]

Robert Reich
Former Clinton Labor Secretary in a now-deleted tweet.


Tonight, Republican senators lined up to shake Kyrsten Sinema s hand, Democratic senators should have given her the backs of their hands.[/i

Ah, of course, follow the blue print laid down by Hillary, demonize those who have different opinions.
They are DEPLORABLE, RACIST, HITLER LOVERS, or JEFFERSON DAVIS/BULL CONNIR wannabes.

If Biden wants to turn his failed presidency around he would be advised to dump his reliance on Bernie Sanders
If he did he would pick up Joe Manchin.

[facilitatorn]

http://www.thebulwark.com/the-six-main-strands-of-the-trump-coup-attempt/

[facilitatorn]

Robert Reich
Former Clinton Labor Secretary in a now-deleted tweet.


Tonight, Republican senators lined up to shake Kyrsten Sinema s hand, Democratic senators should have given her the backs of their hands.[/i

Ah, of course, follow the blue print laid down by Hillary, demonize those who have different opinions.
They are DEPLORABLE, RACIST, HITLER LOVERS, or JEFFERSON DAVIS/BULL CONNIR wannabes.

If Biden wants to turn his failed presidency around he would be advised to dump his reliance on Bernie Sanders
If he did he would pick up Joe Manchin.

Have you found a country that accepts belly crawling backbiting sluts like yourself, you stateless moronic invalid?

[facilitatorn]

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/22876361/freedom-to-vote-act-senate-filibuster-what-next

[josh]

What next, indeed.

This is a pretty dumb bill, but given the state of Florida (or the state of the state of Florida, if you prefer), it will probably become law until it hits SCOTUS where it will get crushed as a Freedom of Speech issue, probably 6-3 or perhaps up to 8-1.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/19/us/florida-education-critical-race-theory-bill/index.html

A bill intended to prevent folks from being made to feel uncomfortable for being racists.

[Oiled]

Red, hospital admissions and deaths in the vaccinated world are proportionally much lower than in previous surges.

Vax boost the immune system and permits survival of those who wouldn't survive a natural infection.  I would favor the plan being advanced in places like Spain and UK, to declare the virus endemic, and treat it as such rather than as a crisis.  And that works best with vax AND natural immunity. 

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-boris-johnson-health-europe-spain-1ab95ea43fa30bcb36f068c9a8664d12