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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: December 27, 2020, 09:20:39 PM »
Payton is pissed off...been checking in on Elba....
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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: December 27, 2020, 08:38:02 PM »
another stellar 1st 1/2, maybe third time's a charm?
21 Ws
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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: December 27, 2020, 01:19:24 PM »
Which has lasted longer:
a. Knicks search for a legit pg
b. war in Afghanistan
c. war on drugs
you get the point (pun intended).
Yes Quickly will help when he is back on the court, but the Knicks need two PGs (who needs two, who needs two...). Payton is not a starting PG -period. DSJ is not an NBA backup. Franc is not a PG. I give Burks credit for pitching in, but c'mon.
It is not a secret how badly the knicks need a real starting PG. So am I wondering what Rose's - and his huge braintrust - plan is, their vision?
This situation sort of reminds me of Gettlemen's tenure with the Jints. When he came on all he talked about was improving the O line - which everyone knew was essential. And it took him three years to finally get to it. Him and his hog mollies...idiot...
Rose had cap space and picks and should have addressed the PG issue at the top, not toppin. A solution - well understanding that most top tier FAs are simply not coming to NY, maybe be creative. Bo's suggestion that drafting both Halliburton and Quickly and then unloading either DSJ or Franc, for Chip's proverbial bag of beans, is, if nothing else, creative, naively optimistic, and outside the box.
Going with Payton, DSJ, and bringing in Quickly - who can play with or off the play, is not thinking but merely going through the motions - it took no effort or deep thinking to do that.
a. Knicks search for a legit pg
b. war in Afghanistan
c. war on drugs
you get the point (pun intended).
Yes Quickly will help when he is back on the court, but the Knicks need two PGs (who needs two, who needs two...). Payton is not a starting PG -period. DSJ is not an NBA backup. Franc is not a PG. I give Burks credit for pitching in, but c'mon.
It is not a secret how badly the knicks need a real starting PG. So am I wondering what Rose's - and his huge braintrust - plan is, their vision?
This situation sort of reminds me of Gettlemen's tenure with the Jints. When he came on all he talked about was improving the O line - which everyone knew was essential. And it took him three years to finally get to it. Him and his hog mollies...idiot...
Rose had cap space and picks and should have addressed the PG issue at the top, not toppin. A solution - well understanding that most top tier FAs are simply not coming to NY, maybe be creative. Bo's suggestion that drafting both Halliburton and Quickly and then unloading either DSJ or Franc, for Chip's proverbial bag of beans, is, if nothing else, creative, naively optimistic, and outside the box.
Going with Payton, DSJ, and bringing in Quickly - who can play with or off the play, is not thinking but merely going through the motions - it took no effort or deep thinking to do that.
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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: December 13, 2020, 12:17:25 PM »
Gotta say, Obi looked great, and yes coaching will make a difference this season, the Q is how much of a difference?
As much as in the NFL, like Judge for the Jints, I doubt it.
But it is great to have a real coach...in retrospect - what on earth where they thinking with Fizz? the only that guy was ready for is having his eyewear promoted in Architectural Digest
As much as in the NFL, like Judge for the Jints, I doubt it.
But it is great to have a real coach...in retrospect - what on earth where they thinking with Fizz? the only that guy was ready for is having his eyewear promoted in Architectural Digest
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Basketball / Re: the low-bar- rider
« on: November 30, 2020, 01:15:48 PM »
It will help the FO and Thibs as well, that the bar for this season is so low - Vegas has the Knicks at 22.5 wins, worst in the NBA w/Cleveland. So any improvement on that will have everyone blueskying it, and fair enough I guess.
In this regard it will allow Thibs to hopefully be true to himself, bury himself in the lab and see what diabolical avant garde experiments and, more importantly, results he can come up with...
so I guess time is on the Knicks side...but not the fans side, especially the old ones...
a few days ago my 21 yo son asked me "do you ever think the Knicks will ever not totally suck?" hard to say really - faith vs. reason ....
In this regard it will allow Thibs to hopefully be true to himself, bury himself in the lab and see what diabolical avant garde experiments and, more importantly, results he can come up with...
so I guess time is on the Knicks side...but not the fans side, especially the old ones...
a few days ago my 21 yo son asked me "do you ever think the Knicks will ever not totally suck?" hard to say really - faith vs. reason ....
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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: November 23, 2020, 01:43:11 PM »Our guard play should be improved, especially if DSJ and Frank take required third year steps.yeah except they're in their fourth year?
Well we'll see exactly what coaching can do with these two reclamation projects...
Wasn't one of the points of hiring someone truly "connected" like Rose and then WWW, was to sell the likes of Rajon and others on the limitless possibilities of playing in NYC?
With all the disruptions this season the FO gets a pass, but next year with all the conserved FA money from resigning rather than rebuilding, the FO will need to step up their game and get going on whatever vision they are selling....
Can anyone post the recent Vorkunov in the Athletic - Chip it's right up your alley - Knicks boring is a good thing....
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Basketball / Re: OMARI SPELLMAN [Bo D & The Trojan Women]
« on: November 23, 2020, 01:36:10 PM »
Our Newest Knick. emerging not from Kentucky blue but the estimable VILLINOVA program where he was part of a starting five that included
So maybe Knicks just want Wildcats, not nec. UK
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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: November 22, 2020, 08:04:16 PM »
not so sure about that, can a Wildcat be traded off the Knicks...
Begley on Rivers contract - apparently years 2 & 3 and not guaranteed, which makes it even stranger if you ask me...
Begley on Rivers contract - apparently years 2 & 3 and not guaranteed, which makes it even stranger if you ask me...
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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: November 22, 2020, 07:55:04 PM »
and Rivers on a longer term deal than usual (for the Knicks)
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· 31m
Update on Rivers' contract: Three years, $10M, source tells ESPN. twitter.com/wojespn/status…
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· 31m
Update on Rivers' contract: Three years, $10M, source tells ESPN. twitter.com/wojespn/status…
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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: November 22, 2020, 07:09:59 PM »I’m betting Frank beats out every other guard on this roster to become the undisputed starting PG. His time is now.
Of all the things Frank might be, starting PG is not one of them...
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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: November 22, 2020, 07:08:44 PM »
Ed we hardly knew ya...
and guess what - more 2nd rounders...I might be underwhelmed but gotta admit this is getting fun, who next?
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Minnesota is trading Omari Spellman and Jacob Evans and a future second-round pick to New York for F Ed Davis, sources tell ESPN.
and guess what - more 2nd rounders...I might be underwhelmed but gotta admit this is getting fun, who next?
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@wojespn
Minnesota is trading Omari Spellman and Jacob Evans and a future second-round pick to New York for F Ed Davis, sources tell ESPN.
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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: November 22, 2020, 07:02:39 PM »
yeah the CAA Knicks...
If I had the energy I would point out how, contra Deadspin, Begley and Bondy point out that you can't keep on making cap space and not signing tertiary players for one year contracts....so you can make sense or stop making sense....
Also, saw something how Thibs wanted Melo and I think it was a reliable person (and certainly not Berman)...and I can only say - thank god we didn't sign Melo....
And yes now the PG slot is crowded without a clear sense of direction...Frank is certainly not a starting or even backup PG - that seems pretty clear. DSJ - when all you hear are word like "reclamation" "faith" "can be coached" and he's into what - year 4...well that's all faith and no reason...
this is not a rebuild as much as a re-sign, and maintain cap space...
so now it's all on the coaching and hopefully Thibs can pull a David Copperfield and make the Knicks appear relevant
If I had the energy I would point out how, contra Deadspin, Begley and Bondy point out that you can't keep on making cap space and not signing tertiary players for one year contracts....so you can make sense or stop making sense....
Also, saw something how Thibs wanted Melo and I think it was a reliable person (and certainly not Berman)...and I can only say - thank god we didn't sign Melo....
And yes now the PG slot is crowded without a clear sense of direction...Frank is certainly not a starting or even backup PG - that seems pretty clear. DSJ - when all you hear are word like "reclamation" "faith" "can be coached" and he's into what - year 4...well that's all faith and no reason...
this is not a rebuild as much as a re-sign, and maintain cap space...
so now it's all on the coaching and hopefully Thibs can pull a David Copperfield and make the Knicks appear relevant
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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: November 21, 2020, 07:59:29 PM »
Look Kam, you are not wrong, but you are not nec. right either... like all sports arguments, esp. those based on preseason musings, there's no right or wrong, it's all just chin music until the results are in...
I could say Teague - but yeah - in terms of moving the needle, he alone does nothing, I could say, Rose could have been more creative in some way for Montrellz, or overpay for Bertans (not our money, cap space will still be in good shape)...but no single FA will move the needle - I get that....and 2021 is all about cap space - I get that too...
but if no decent FA wants to sign with the Knicks in '20, and this season shapes up to be another dopey, 2 steps back season - or even a 1/2 step forward season, why would any decent FA rush to sign with the Knicks - nothing has changed (certainly not the owner).
Maybe there are already winks and nods among the CAA mafia that some CAA repped FA will take New York money - maybe, who knows?
so many ifs, so much waiting, such a low bar, what happened to baby steps - unless you consider NOT doing any harm as a baby step, like I said such a low fucking bar...
maybe this all goes away tomorrow when the knicks unveil Russbrook? maybe I'ld be more forgiving if they drafted Halliburton and not Obi...
maybe Quickley will live up to Calipari's glowing recommendation (recycled from his same glowing recommendation of Knox)...
maybe Thibs will do a reclamation job with DSJ & Frank the likes of which has never been seen...
right now, the Knicks remain no part of nuthin', just like they have been for the better part of the last 20 years, I remain underwhelmed and welcome the opportunity to be genuinely surprised this season, as well with the next FA signing-fest
I could say Teague - but yeah - in terms of moving the needle, he alone does nothing, I could say, Rose could have been more creative in some way for Montrellz, or overpay for Bertans (not our money, cap space will still be in good shape)...but no single FA will move the needle - I get that....and 2021 is all about cap space - I get that too...
but if no decent FA wants to sign with the Knicks in '20, and this season shapes up to be another dopey, 2 steps back season - or even a 1/2 step forward season, why would any decent FA rush to sign with the Knicks - nothing has changed (certainly not the owner).
Maybe there are already winks and nods among the CAA mafia that some CAA repped FA will take New York money - maybe, who knows?
so many ifs, so much waiting, such a low bar, what happened to baby steps - unless you consider NOT doing any harm as a baby step, like I said such a low fucking bar...
maybe this all goes away tomorrow when the knicks unveil Russbrook? maybe I'ld be more forgiving if they drafted Halliburton and not Obi...
maybe Quickley will live up to Calipari's glowing recommendation (recycled from his same glowing recommendation of Knox)...
maybe Thibs will do a reclamation job with DSJ & Frank the likes of which has never been seen...
right now, the Knicks remain no part of nuthin', just like they have been for the better part of the last 20 years, I remain underwhelmed and welcome the opportunity to be genuinely surprised this season, as well with the next FA signing-fest
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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: November 21, 2020, 06:23:55 PM »Who was in the grey area that would have moved the needle and not hampered future cap space and wanted to be here??
Kam - it's pretty clear by now that no one "wants" to be here
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Basketball / Re: Get to the floor
« on: November 21, 2020, 06:10:13 PM »Looks like our inroads in the league are mainly roads to the Jazz and CAA.
I hope Leon has expansion plans for 2021.
and UK....
not a big splash, why is it always the extremes ...now something more interesting and proactive than Ed Davis and less that GH at 130 million - big grey area there to which Steady Eddy, Elf, and Burkes do not really belong....
I guess the big silver lining is they are all on one years... a low bar keeps us happy ....