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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[kidcarter8]

Who do I want to play WITH?
Who do I want to play FOR?

2 questions always at the forefront of a free agent's mind - in addition to playoff prospects, as my good friend Les relates.

[bodiddley]

I'll take Rondo over Elf.
But at least Elf offers a modicum of continuity.

As far as I can tell, no C received more than $10M so far as a FA.

I have Myers Leopard's 2/$20M as the biggest BIG deal.
Ibaka 2/$19M   @ LAC
Tristan 2/$19M @ Celts
Plumlee 3/$25M @ DET
Baynes 2/$14M @ TOR (nice fit)
Nerlens 1/$5M   @ NYK
WCS 2/ $8.2M   @ DAL
Ma Gasol & Dwight on vet min deals (2 years and 1 respectively)

[chipstern]

While BoD is engaged in one of his interminable WouldaCouldaShoulda laments, now rallying the Trojan Women for a period of abject mourning regarding the tragic lost opportunity of Harry Giles [who could indeed be a nice player, but we just engaged with his doppleganger in Nerlens Noels]....

Our Newest Knick. emerging not from Kentucky blue but the estimable VILLINOVA program where he was part of a starting five that included

Jalen Brunson           JR   G   6-3   199   18.9 Pts, 3.1 Reb, 4.6 Ast

Mikal Bridges           JR   F   6-7   191   17.7 Pts, 5.3 Reb, 1.9 Ast

Donte DiVincenzo   SO   G   6-5   200   13.4 Pts, 4.8 Reb, 3.5 Ast

Omari Spellman      FR   F   6-9   260   10.9 Pts, 8.0 Reb, 0.8 Ast

Eric Paschall           JR   F   6-8   255   10.6 Pts, 5.3 Reb, 2.2 Ast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md9XxtPA2UA

OMARI SPELLMAN

This was shared with me by Elba Alumnus, E-Mann, and I must say, it is pretty dope. 

Spellman is a spry, athletic and broad beamed bruiser (think Montrezl Harrell), with a significant motor, and can REALLY KNOCK DOWN THE THREE. 

His Villinova stats in 40 games for his one and done 2017-2018 season. 

PTS
10.9

TRB
8.0

AST
0.8

FG%
47.6

FG3%
43.3

FT%
70.0

eFG%
57.3

An interesting pickup.  And again, while mourning the tragic missed opporunities of Christian Wood (who did indeed show significant improvement and upside in a breakout 2019-2020) and Harry Giles, they promise nothing that we might not expect from Obi Toppin and Nerlens Noels, let alone Omari Spellman. 

[kidcarter8]

I'll take Rondo over Elf.
But at least Elf offers a modicum of continuity.

As far as I can tell, no C received more than $10M so far as a FA.

I have Myers Leopard's 2/$20M as the biggest BIG deal.
Ibaka 2/$19M   @ LAC
Tristan 2/$19M @ Celts
Plumlee 3/$25M @ DET
Baynes 2/$14M @ TOR (nice fit)
Nerlens 1/$5M   @ NYK
WCS 2/ $8.2M   @ DAL
Ma Gasol & Dwight on vet min deals (2 years and 1 respectively)

If you are keeping a list add R Lopez

Lakers deal with Gasol should be more than min.

[chipstern]

Uh, yes, I will take him over Elfrid Payton as well, Bo. 

But there does appear to be this pattern trending, where FREE AGENTS do not appear eager to sign on for the New York experience.  Nor have our experiences in this arena proven to be a viable way forward. 

So we have some more short turn, flippable, one and done/team option contracts to choose from. 

Not appetizing, but potentially nutritious.   

[kidcarter8]

The term "ball mover" has become popular in front offices.  While not necessarily "creators" these types hit the open man and with proper timing, while also being able to advance the ball up the court if asked

Rivers - check
Quickley - check
Burks - check

[chipstern]

Day In

Day Out

Some of the most feckless BS of any beat reporter.

Now reporting that Knicks hired Johnnie Bryant as part of their FAILED PLOY to deploy him as an enticelemtn to LURE Donovan Mitchell to the Knicks as a FA. 

Never mind that pre Max Extension, he would've been a RESTRICTED FREE AGENT, and thus, Utah, could not only offer him an extra year, but match any offer. 

I mean, they just GAVE HIM A MAX EXTENSION A FULL YEAR BEFORE THEY WERE OBLIGATED TO DO SO. 

Dumb motherfucker. 

[chipstern]

The term "ball mover" has become popular in front offices.  While not necessarily "creators" these types hit the open man and with proper timing, while also being able to advance the ball up the court if asked

Rivers - check
Quickley - check
Burks - check

Barrett - check

[chipstern]

Adrian Wojnarowski: Free agent G Damyean Dotson has agreed to a two-year, $4M deal with the Cleveland Cavaliers, his agent Chris Gaston of @Famfirstsports tells ESPN. – via Twitter wojespn

Good landing spot for Dot.

Happy for the kid.  He played hard, D'd up and enjoyed some significant nights for our Knicks, knocking down threes, and accepting his ever shifting role, or the lack thereof, with professionalism and maturity. 

I wish him luck. 

[kidcarter8]

Seems obvious we will rid ourselves of Evans, as constructed no?

[bodiddley]

I see Ma Gasol at $2.63M which is the vet min for a player with more than 10 years.

But the Lakes pay all of that, and the league doesn't cover a chunk as usual, since LAL signed him for more than one year.

I was mainly wondering if any C's got paid, and trying to gauge the C market.
There's a glut of C's and the position has become devalued.
But this crop was mainly backups and oldheads.
Does show you can get a quality backup C for cheap, as we did.

I saw one game where Nerlens blocked 3 shots near the rim on the same possession.

A flier of Spellman instead of Giles.  Sure, why not.
The two times I saw Spellman wasn't enough to determine whether he has potential or not.  He puts forth effort.

Of course lots of guys on one year contracts (or on the trade block) isn't really the way to build a team.  And those two categories apply to nearly our whole team except Mitch, RJB and ObiT.

[Jack Straw]

Our Newest Knick. emerging not from Kentucky blue but the estimable VILLINOVA program where he was part of a starting five that included

So maybe Knicks just want Wildcats, not nec. UK

[Jack Straw]

Our guard play should be improved, especially if DSJ and Frank take required third year steps.

yeah except they're in their fourth year? 

Well we'll see exactly what coaching can do with these two reclamation projects...

Wasn't one of the  points of hiring someone truly "connected" like  Rose and then WWW,  was to sell the likes of Rajon and others on the limitless possibilities of playing in NYC? 

With all the disruptions this season the FO gets a pass, but next year with all the conserved FA money from resigning rather than rebuilding, the FO will need to step up their game and get going on whatever vision they are selling....

Can anyone post the recent Vorkunov in the Athletic - Chip it's right up your alley - Knicks boring is a good thing....

[lesterluv]

You know this place was left an absolute wasteland by Mills and Fiz.

There weren't any cornerstone pieces available or jumping to come here.
Yes, no magic was worked.
But now we have a coach and apparently some competency.
Some nice young players and decent talent coming in.

Austin Rivers isn't my fave player, but he's a hell of a lot more likely to give you good minutes through the coming regular season than an injury prone and disinterested in the mundane Rondo. And I LOVE Rondo.

I don't really know what folks were expecting, but I'm looking forward to the season start and happy to have some more draft picks and cash in the pocket for future spend.

[kidcarter8]

Wasn't one of the  points of hiring someone truly "connected" like  Rose and then WWW,  was to sell the likes of Rajon and others on the limitless possibilities of playing in NYC?


You said it

One of - not solely - and not solely this year, either

A guy like Wes is well connected throughout the league.  Those connections may pay off in time.  But first we need to look like a solid organization, one that can be trusted and that  is moving on an incline.