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Re: Knicks
« Reply #10710 on: February 02, 2020, 05:07:20 PM »

Here’s a different direction, based on reports of the wolves being interested in Smith

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7280600

Gorgui Dieng and Keita Bates-Diop for DSJ and Bobby Portis.

We get the better young prospect, they get a back of rotation big with a team option instead of a guaranteed second year.

Dieng is more of a center than Taj with a better 3 stroke

Dieng Robinson
Randle Gibson Knox
Morris Bates-Diop Iggy
Barrett Bullock Dotson Ellington
Payton Frank Trier
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #10711 on: February 02, 2020, 06:58:59 PM »

You got over Russell pretty quickly.

I'd take him for expirings and picks
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #10712 on: February 02, 2020, 07:04:57 PM »

Does Minnesota want to get out from under Gieng's 17 mil for next year?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #10713 on: February 02, 2020, 07:08:07 PM »

I'd do Wiggins for Bobby, Dennis and Wayne E
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« Reply #10714 on: February 02, 2020, 07:30:13 PM »

Minny definitely wants to get rid of Diengs salary.

KBD is interesting.

Since they reportedly want to move Covington,  and keep Wiggy,  I'd make a play for him.

Sean Davenney had some deal where Wolves got Knix (Franc,  Trier,  Portis,  I think it was)  and Lakes got Cov,  and we got a Lakes 1st and Dieng.   I'd rather deal with Minny direct,  get Covington and Dieng.  Give them say Portis and Randle. Or whatever.  Toss in Jr. Smith if they like him.
 Devanneys deal Mini got too little.  And we'd help the Lakes get the best player.  And our return was iffy.   Good for the Lakes for sure.
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« Reply #10715 on: February 02, 2020, 07:35:19 PM »

Hell, I'd do that Uncle Wiggy trade too,  and I don't want him.   Bad deal for Minn.   And I think they are glad their commitment to Wighat is finally paying off. 

I think they should Sell High on Wiggy,  but reportedly its solid 2way Covington they have on offer.

Minny botched up with Diengs contract and thinking Teague was an answer.  I think they got lucky Wig has started playing up to his contract (sort of).
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« Reply #10716 on: February 02, 2020, 07:57:36 PM »

I think Gieng's a good player.  Added three ball this year

Career high PER last year and this year he is matching it.

Tough to say the contract was bad.
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« Reply #10717 on: February 02, 2020, 07:59:10 PM »

Wolves asked Sixers for Thybulle and a #1 in exchange for Covington.
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« Reply #10718 on: February 02, 2020, 08:00:15 PM »

Watched 1Q of Indy game.   Pacecars looked a bit slowish.  But mostly ran their offense okay,  just missed a ton of good looks.

As the 1Q was winding down,  Clyde said they looked tight,  got mostly open shots and just weren't making them.   Which is what I saw too, rather than any Knick defensive juggernaut.   

Indy did not get fast breaks,  but I suspect they are a slowish team for the most part.   One late 1Q fast break,  Dot just wrapped up Holiday,  who then missed both FTs.
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« Reply #10719 on: February 02, 2020, 08:02:40 PM »

Sources also say the Wolves are happy to keep Covington and make him a part of the vision for next season, but everybody outside of Towns is available in a trade. Or at least the Wolves are willing to take those trade calls. Their priority is setting up more roster flexibility for acquiring bigger names, and finding a playmaker who meshes perfectly with setting up Towns


https://hoopshype.com/storyline/robert-covington-trade/
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« Reply #10720 on: February 02, 2020, 08:08:53 PM »

As the 1Q was winding down,  Clyde said they looked tight,  got mostly open shots and just weren't making them.   Which is what I saw too, rather than any Knick defensive juggernaut.   


I thought the key was not allowing penetration and only allowing one shot (Brogdon really a 2)

Pacers made second Q run when McConnell became shifty.
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« Reply #10721 on: February 02, 2020, 08:21:24 PM »

If Dieng were valuable he'd be playing more than 17 minutes a game.  Which is more than last years 13 and the year before 16.  Basically $1M per minute.

There is no way Dieng was worth $16M per for 4 years.   You just don't pay a backup C that much, let alone a low impact one like Dieng.  His value was maybe half that.

Interesting that he's doing all right shooting 3's this year.   But from what I've seen its almost exclusively corner 3's,  which isn't ideal for your C, for getting back on D.

Mini has long overpaid to retain their own guys.  Wiggy and Dieng just recent examples of bad homer contracts.
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« Reply #10722 on: February 02, 2020, 08:28:15 PM »

Indy's G's weren't getting into the paint 1Q, but their Bigs were on PnR's.  Bitadze,  Sabonis, MyTurn just blew many good opps.

Taj played good D on an early Sabonis postup.   Mitch took a charge on a MyTurn deep roll.   But other than that,  it was just missed Indy shots. 

Knix did good board work, especially Randle (9 1Q boards I believe).
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« Reply #10723 on: February 02, 2020, 08:40:20 PM »

For 2020-21

Covington Towns, Wiggins, Culver, [Cole Anthony], Dieng, Layman (yeah, they miss him), Okogie, Bates-Diop

Not a bad team.
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« Reply #10724 on: February 02, 2020, 08:44:18 PM »

Minny reportedly interested in Tangelo and Aaron Gordon.   A nice trade idea (not mine):
Gordon + Quinn Cook to Minny ;
Kuzma + Dieng to Orl ;
 Covington + Vonleh to Lakes.

I'd rate it as another fail for Minny, but everybody gets something they want.  Nice 3 way concoction.
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