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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[luee]

Did the Knix actually trade for the no talent Moe Harkless?

[kiidcarter8]

No.

[bodiddley]

Our building block went 1-4 on FT's, 1-4 on 3's, and 5-16 FG overall.
Even on his 27 point explosion the other day, I thought RJB's shooting form looked awkward.  The guy has a good body, is athletic and usually plays with energy.  But right now he's mainly talented at bulling his way to the rim.  Which is also Randle's game.  Both would be helped by having shooters out there.  And defenders, since they aren't.  RJB needs to either learn to play defense or develop a jumper or both.  if he can't do that, then he'll be a disappointment.

[bodiddley]

I think this season has been especially low on upsets.  But last night, PHX beat MIL.  And ORL smacked around HOU.  At home Rockettes were down by 25 (71-46) at halftime and never mounted a challenge.  Game before, HOU was down 20-0 to CHA to open the contest.  4 game slump started with a loss to the Knix.

[facilitatorn]

Both RJ and Randle need to be willing to give up the ball earlier, set better screens and make cuts. That will both reduce bad shots and generate easy opportunities. Dialing in the shooting from distance and the stripe would help as well.

Miller seems to be getting a little of his Trey Burke sauce into young Frank slowly but surely as the season wears on.

None of these guys are so far along that they can’t continue to evolve and improve their games.

[kiidcarter8]

Our building block went 1-4 on FT's, 1-4 on 3's, and 5-16 FG overall.
Even on his 27 point explosion the other day, I thought RJB's shooting form looked awkward.  The guy has a good body, is athletic and usually plays with energy.  But right now he's mainly talented at bulling his way to the rim.  Which is also Randle's game.  Both would be helped by having shooters out there.  And defenders, since they aren't.  RJB needs to either learn to play defense or develop a jumper or both.  if he can't do that, then he'll be a disappointment.

If he is not a perennial all star he is a disappointment to many Knick fans

But all yous ay is true.

CHARACTER guy though - Barrett - and he does enough even on his bad shooting days to be a "building block" - even now - his rookie campaign.

Frank is coming along as a second unit keeper as well.  I may have been mistaken on his 6 mil option as he likely has some trade value - and court value has some upside for '20-'21.

[Kam]

Our building block went 1-4 on FT's, 1-4 on 3's, and 5-16 FG overall.
Even on his 27 point explosion the other day, I thought RJB's shooting form looked awkward.  The guy has a good body, is athletic and usually plays with energy.  But right now he's mainly talented at bulling his way to the rim.  Which is also Randle's game.  Both would be helped by having shooters out there.  And defenders, since they aren't.  RJB needs to either learn to play defense or develop a jumper or both.  if he can't do that, then he'll be a disappointment.

Randle's was a stopgap plan B signing.  His throwback game fits with NOBODY. Let's stop pretending that we need to fit around Randle.  Or even care whose game aligns with his.  The hardest thing to do in the NBA is build around a guy like Randle.

[kiidcarter8]

Randle has already in his young career played with players that were more ball-needy - thus handling less himself - and adapted fine.

On this team he and Barrett HAVE to create - or there would be nothing.

[bodiddley]

I've been saying from the day we signed him that Randle is a difficult player to build a team around, or to fit well on a team.  You basically need a rim protecting C who can stretch the floor on O.  Essentially Ma Gasol & Brook Lopez. 

And you need ballhandlers and passers and 3-point shooters to keep Randle's responsibility in those areas limited.  He's good at boarding and bulling his way inside.  A somewhat limited skillset in today's NBA.

[kiidcarter8]

Zion per 36

28/8/2.5/1

Randle per 36

21/11/3.5/1

[Kam]

Cam Reddish is quietly getting into a groove. 

You know that Luka/Trae Young trade also netted the Hawks Reddish and DeAndre Hunter.

The Hawks got a very good haul for Luka for sure.  Three great prospects.  Still rather have Luka.  But it's very intersting and could change.

[bodiddley]

Am I missing something?
Wasn't it just TRae and one 1st, which was used for Kam Red. 

And Hunter was ATL's own 1st round pick.

Traded by the Atlanta Hawks to the Dallas Mavericks for Trae Young and a 2019 1st round draft pick (Cam Reddish was later selected). (2019 1st-rd pick was top-5 protected.)

And Reddish has really improved the last month or two.
After a horrendous start, he's been a useful player.
Took him a little time to find his rhythm, confidence, game.  The NBA isn't an easy adjustment. Everyone is big, fast, can shoot (well, on other teams at least).

[bodiddley]

Zion per 36:   28/8/2.5/1
Randle per 36:  21/11/3.5/1

Meaning what exactly?
What's your interpretation of that?
Why'd you post it?

Surely you don't think Randle is as good as (19 year old) Zion.
And Kam might be off his nut these days, but probably doesn't think Randle is as good as KZ.  Yet posted a similar comparison.

Tell us what you think is going on  ...

[bodiddley]

GS has 15 W's.  And the worst record locked up if they want.

Cavs and TWolves 19 W's.
Knix, Pissedons, Hawks 20 W's.

At this point I'd rather have the 2nd or 3rd worst record than the 6th (or 7th, Bulls just 21 W's).

Whereforewise, I'd start Mitch and Franc (or Jr. Smith) and Knox.
Smith - RJB - Knox - Randle - Mitch.
Elf and Taj, Hark and Portis as 2nd unit.
Hell, cna run 5 or 6 games with Portis starting and Randle sitting as well.

Only 16 games left.  Let's see what our pups can do.
Knox can use some long minute runs.
Same with Franc'n'Smith.

All in on development and game time for the yute.
W's be damned.
DET is going to be hard to slot under (since they excised their top players).  Hawks and Bulls trying to win games.
Just need to drop below CLE and MIN.

A Top 3 lottery slotting would be good.  Likely a Top 5 pick, and 7th at worst.  No reason to drop a couple slots down with meaningless wins secured by vets who won't be back.

[bodiddley]

20 - 44.
16 games left.

Looks like whoever picked mid-20's will be closest.
Forget what i went with.
29 W's?

Will look for the prediction list when I have a chance.