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How Should the Basketball "Topics" Be Arranged?

Knicks, NBA, College
- 3 (50%)
Knicks, Other Basketball
- 0 (0%)
NBA, College
- 1 (16.7%)
Basketball
- 0 (0%)
Leave it as it is
- 2 (33.3%)

Total Members Voted: 6

Voting closed: August 30, 2020, 02:57:14 PM


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facilitatorn

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13740 on: October 15, 2020, 02:46:45 PM »

Yes, Bullock is. We should pick up his option, but teams need more than one.

Drafting we should stand pat and draft Vassell at 8, Tyler Bey at 27, and Killian Tille at 38. All are Thibs type defenders who rip corner threes.
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« Reply #13741 on: October 15, 2020, 03:02:01 PM »

Maybe we should've waited ...
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13742 on: October 15, 2020, 03:02:30 PM »

I am certainly not going to bash new management in their first draft/year

Would be upset a bit only if we passed on Carey at 27.

Oh - yeah - and give me one white guy out of the 3.    :)
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13743 on: October 15, 2020, 03:15:13 PM »

Thus far Knicks have had ZOOM calls with LaMelo ball and Kira Lewis Jr.  None other reported.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13744 on: October 15, 2020, 07:41:25 PM »

O'Connor mock

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/

Haliburton and the other Bey come our way

Fine with me

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13745 on: October 16, 2020, 12:30:53 AM »

Bullocks should be able to have a better season.  I'd like him back.  But he's a 3&D wing; the other guys I was talking about are combo F 3&Ders, so not much overlap.
Also we're probably talking 20 mins guys.


So kiid, you've come around on Halliburton?  Didn't you say there was no way he was a Top 8 player earlier? 

I still like Ty H.  A shooter with some playmaking ability so can handle some PG.  Seems to have a good feel on the court.  A bit slight for D.  From the little I saw, he reminded me of Rodney Hood (who for whatever reason hasn't reached his potential).  Another comp would be Sacto's Bogdanovich who we might be considering in FA.


If we could nab Bogguy in FA and draft Vassal, that would really change the character of our team.  Enter the modern NBA era.  We'd still be looking for a PG -- but could draft one with the #27 or try to move up around the #20 pick to get a better selection.  Lotta interesting PG's projected to go from 18 on down.  Easier and less costly to move up near the bottom of the draft. 

That's my plan.
I'd also be fine with throwing lots of money at FVV and adding Okongwu (or Vassal).
FVV and Okongwu would toughen us up immediately.  Another change for the better.  And guys Thibs would like, guys who stick their nose in and make folks uncomfortable.  [then grab best shooter available at #27, Bey or whomeva]
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13746 on: October 16, 2020, 12:39:08 AM »

So kiid, you've come around on Halliburton?  Didn't you say there was no way he was a Top 8 player earlier?



Pay attention

I said I trust the new management team
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13747 on: October 16, 2020, 12:42:26 AM »

Draft is before FAA, right?  So you cant be thinking, "if we add FVV then we draft so and so."
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13748 on: October 16, 2020, 12:46:18 AM »

So simply flip it around.

If we draft Okongwu, and depending if we get a PG we like lower down, go hard after FVV.

If we draft Vassal, both FVV and Bog make sense.

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13749 on: October 16, 2020, 12:48:09 AM »

So kiid, you've come around on Halliburton?  Didn't you say there was no way he was a Top 8 player earlier?


Pay attention
I said I trust the new management team

Well, there's a Trump-level dodge.
Has the new management said anything on Halliburton?
Your opinion died or something?
Grow a pair ...
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« Reply #13750 on: October 16, 2020, 12:55:02 AM »

I've heard it described as a draft where if you're not picking 1 or 2 then it doesn't much matter where you pick in the top 10 as some talent will slide.

1. Is that a reasonable assertion?

If the above is true some might be tempted to call it a "deep draft" but my 2nd question is:

2. Is the draft class as a whole that good or are we going to be looking back in 7 years saying "wow.... only 1-2 all stars from this draft and only a couple other starters for good teams"

I guess you'd call that a "weak deep draft"

All just a guessing game at this point but i'm concerned that we're making a lot out of a little.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13751 on: October 16, 2020, 09:07:00 AM »

Has the new management said anything on Halliburton?


No - not that I have read

And I have never seen him play. 

If they like him at 8, I trust them - then I give you an appraisal - as with Knox - afterwards.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13752 on: October 16, 2020, 09:45:46 AM »

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Re: Questions
« Reply #13753 on: October 16, 2020, 09:50:47 AM »

I've heard it described as a draft where if you're not picking 1 or 2 then it doesn't much matter where you pick in the top 10 as some talent will slide.

1. Is that a reasonable assertion?

If the above is true some might be tempted to call it a "deep draft" but my 2nd question is:

2. Is the draft class as a whole that good or are we going to be looking back in 7 years saying "wow.... only 1-2 all stars from this draft and only a couple other starters for good teams"

I guess you'd call that a "weak deep draft"

All just a guessing game at this point but i'm concerned that we're making a lot out of a little.

I am less bullish on Hayes than O'Connor is.  Even O says Hayes is all left hand

4 player draft for me up top

In no order

Wiseman
Avdija
Edwards
Ball

So sure. .  if we can't deal up or get a pantload to deal down, stay at 8, do your diligent research/interviews and welcome the new talent.

There will be some options after that to deal up from 27 I would think, for instance if you wanted a Smith or Achiuwa after taking Haliburton or a Ty Terry after taking Okongwu.

I would guess forward/guard combo with first 2 if Wiseman isn't in there.

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13754 on: October 16, 2020, 12:10:35 PM »

So......

let's work on this Westbrook deal.

No - they are not getting the #8 overall
No - they are not getting Barrett
No - they are not getting Robinson

Everything else subject to discussion
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